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Thread 5: To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?

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DisappointedReader · 11/07/2025 12:48

The Observer The real Salt Path: how a blockbuster book and film were ...

Second article in the Observer
https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-whats-in-the-book-and-what-the-observer-has-found

Third item in the Observer
https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-the-truth-behind-the-blockbuster-book-video

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Raynor Winn/Sally Walker's statement Raynor Winn

The real Salt Path: how a blockbuster book and film were ...

The real Salt Path: how a blockbuster book and film were ...

Penniless and homeless, the Winns found fame and fortune with the story of their 630-mile walk to salvation. We can reveal that the truth behind it is ve...

https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-real-salt-path-how-the-couple-behind-a-bestseller-left-a-trail-of-debt-and-deceit

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ThatFluentHedgehog · 12/07/2025 14:03

Choux · 12/07/2025 13:43

Has this been posted before? Short video of Sally (in character as Raynor) explaining to Fearne Cotton about Moth’s diagnosis just before the start of the walk.
Doctors said ‘don’t get too tired and be careful on stairs’. Yet off they apparently set on a walk that is the equivalent of four Everest ascents. 🙄
Am curious now if the whole podcast is available to watch as I would love to hear what Fearne says next.
https://www.facebook.com/reel/4089056321371741?fs=e&s=TIeQ9V&fs=e&fs=e

It's very much sticking to a script. Matches the book almost word for word. Publicity rounds would get repetitive sure, but with such a momentous event if your life you'd expect some variation, some pause, some reflection.

Instead of running through it like an anecdote, hastening towards the clincher of "and then we saw the SWCP walking book [descended from above with light and hope radiating from its cover]".

Orangesandlemons77 · 12/07/2025 14:04

The NDA and paying off Martin Hemmings- how would the police view this in light of the stealing 64K and it being a jail term of 3-4 yrs for that sort of crime?

Is it considered Ok to just pay someone off and get them to sign an NDA like that?

ClearStory · 12/07/2025 14:05

User14March · 12/07/2025 13:37

Nigel Tangye, his brother, also fascinating & his books on Cornish wrecks etc, fab. Nigel ran a well known Cornish hotel & had a very colourful life. The Tangye books def deserve a wider audience.

How does one pronounce ‘Tangye’? I keep getting weird ear worms from old Lilt ads when I see it…

Daisythepussycat · 12/07/2025 14:07

Merrymouse · 12/07/2025 12:41

Write a book! Write a book!

Perhaps you could start with the garage flooding moment? All your work floats away. A profound commentary on the UK education system!

You might have to fiddle with the timeline a bit though - would be better if the story of doing up the house is after the flood.

When they make the film, could your children pretend to be 10 years younger than they are for the publicity?

I've got that T-shirt - I wrote 150 when I was doing the languages books. They still bring me about £200 a year!

AldoGordo · 12/07/2025 14:08

Choux · 12/07/2025 13:43

Has this been posted before? Short video of Sally (in character as Raynor) explaining to Fearne Cotton about Moth’s diagnosis just before the start of the walk.
Doctors said ‘don’t get too tired and be careful on stairs’. Yet off they apparently set on a walk that is the equivalent of four Everest ascents. 🙄
Am curious now if the whole podcast is available to watch as I would love to hear what Fearne says next.
https://www.facebook.com/reel/4089056321371741?fs=e&s=TIeQ9V&fs=e&fs=e

She says exactly the same in the Rick Stein Cornwall episode. It's also in the book I think. Seems more and more her answers are always like reading from the book. I get that to a degree if it were genuine true story and book plugging, but it now almost seems overrehearsed and as if she herself has had to convince herself to ensure a consistent answer each time. I think over time she probably has convinced herself and said the same thing over and over that it happens without thinking now. It's become her truth.

tighterthanaducksarse · 12/07/2025 14:09

AldoGordo · 12/07/2025 12:43

Edit: Martyn A Walker is the father of James E Walker (naval architect and nephew of Timoth)..

MW married a Woodhead in Dec 1981, East Staffs,
JW born 1986, mums maiden name Woodhead, East Staffs.

So now it looks like the French property has a lot more to do with things if they had a falling out, given what the nephew wrote on LI.

That makes a lot of sense now. I guessed early on the Martyn lent them the money but I could be wrong.

BadDinner · 12/07/2025 14:09

sualipa · 12/07/2025 12:44

I can lend you money that you will forget to pay me back and get gangsters to rough up your husband and provoke an existential crisis. You will need a pseudonym though - like Dutty Waters !

Lol😂😂

I would definitely read this book. The hardback at that!

Daisythepussycat · 12/07/2025 14:11

Merrymouse · 12/07/2025 12:41

Write a book! Write a book!

Perhaps you could start with the garage flooding moment? All your work floats away. A profound commentary on the UK education system!

You might have to fiddle with the timeline a bit though - would be better if the story of doing up the house is after the flood.

When they make the film, could your children pretend to be 10 years younger than they are for the publicity?

P.S. I love the suggestion though! I had never thought of it as book-worthy, but maybe you have a point! If I didn't come out in spots every time I went near a keyboard it might be a runner!

MyGodMyThighs · 12/07/2025 14:11

As far as I know it’s always been local volunteers apple picking at Haye. Apple Day is a community tradition every October all over Cornwall.

AldoGordo · 12/07/2025 14:11

ClearStory · 12/07/2025 14:02

It certainly struck me as strange they were paying rent for an uninhabitable, rodent-infested house. RW describes signing a contract, too and worrying about paying two rents for several months because they sign in October but don’t move in til spring.

It’s not clear to me whether the cider-making was happening immediately before the Walkers took on the farm— the orchard is obviously old, and ‘Sam’ says it’s an old ‘sheep and beef farm that makes cider’ when he first describes it to them, but RW notes that the trees are in poor shape, and covered in ripe but unpicked fruit when they first see them. They later say the cider press hadn’t been used in a year, but their attitude to the cider-making side of things is weirdly casual even when the farm is their responsibility. For a start, by her account they disappear to Iceland to walk at apple-picking time, then come home but mysteriously don’t seem to have made any arrangements to harvest the apple crop. There’s a storm, the apples are all on the ground, bruised, and Moth says ‘What a waste’ and that they’ll never be able to pick up more than a tiny number. Only volunteers from Polruan mean that they get the fruit into the barn.

It all sounds more than a bit slapdash..?

Clearly they were still involved when Rick Stein filmed there in 2022/3, but maybe they’re just not people who get on with things in a professional way?

Thanks for that as I've not read or have a copy of TWS. I'm ever more convinced their trip to Iceland happened before they even moved to the farm.

ThatFluentHedgehog · 12/07/2025 14:12

AldoGordo · 12/07/2025 14:08

She says exactly the same in the Rick Stein Cornwall episode. It's also in the book I think. Seems more and more her answers are always like reading from the book. I get that to a degree if it were genuine true story and book plugging, but it now almost seems overrehearsed and as if she herself has had to convince herself to ensure a consistent answer each time. I think over time she probably has convinced herself and said the same thing over and over that it happens without thinking now. It's become her truth.

That's exactly what I'm saying above @AldoGordo. It's very much sticking to a script. And as we now have a local eye witness saying they fled at 2am and the bailiffs came later in the morning, we can see why. If that witness is telling the truth of course!

DisappointedReader · 12/07/2025 14:13

A polite reminder from the OP to everyone:

This is Thread 5 and we'd got this far together without needing to be policed at all by MNHQ and with little to no deletions. What very few deletions there have been have been requested between ourselves and the thread has moved on, amicably and with increased understanding about what is and isn't acceptable on here. We've worked together to keep posts reasonable and debate civil for over 4500 posts and that has been pretty amazing. Well done and thank you to all the very many - the vast majority of - pps who have made it that way.

It was therefore disappointing - there is that word again! - to come back and find PMs from concerned posters, to also learn that some posters had understandably found it necessary to report some pps to MNHQ, and that @BeckyAMumsnet had subsequently decided she needed to fire a shot across the bows of the thread.

It is a minority of posters crossing the line. Before posting, in future please make sure you engage brain, read and remember the warning shot from Becky, and consider whether what you are posting is reasonable and in the spirit of the thread. That way the thread can continue for everyone and you will also be welcome on it. Let's not bother MNHQ again.

NB Please be careful when it comes to naming or implicating people who aren't in the public eye or have no connection to the story, especially where details are unclear or still emerging i.e. DON'T DO IT.

Keep on the path. No more saltiness. Thank you.

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Toomuchstufff · 12/07/2025 14:15

User14March · 12/07/2025 13:56

Totally agree and find Moth’s deliberate absences, for such a warm, magnetic extrovert compared to shy Ray, unsettling. As someone said that cas dapper look ££. During TSP photos £ designer clobber. Was the tent really an ebay cheapo as he’s in new Berghaus, Karrimor etc.

TSP says about the rucksacks “finally choosing two packs from mountain warehouse, for less than half the price of one big-brand pack”. The implication is that they bought MW own brand.

and yet the images in circulation apparently from the same walk show at least one of the rucksacks Karrimor.

I guess it doesn’t really matter but…

Daisythepussycat · 12/07/2025 14:16

Chateaudiaries · 12/07/2025 13:42

@Daisythepussycat I enjoyed the story of your French ruin, well done for renovating especially with no experience. Like you, I’m interested in the French aspect of this story because I own a chateau in SW France, it’s in a reasonable state but needs some work (looking at you damp walls) and not for the faint-hearted! Anyhow I hope you do write a bookSmile

I never actually read the SP despite enjoying reading and walking, after reading a couple of bad reviews on here.

Thanks! We call ours a hovel rather than a château (60 sq.m.), but given how things could have turned out it was a soft landing! The house project wasn't too bad, because it is so small, the external fabric was sound, and there is no damp. Coincidentally the property we 'left with nothing' was in Devon, and we probably walked about 50% of the SWCP over the years. Never thought of monetising it though!

Bruisername · 12/07/2025 14:16

karrimor isn’t expensive? But I thought it was a sports direct brand and you could only get it there

FurryHappyKittens · 12/07/2025 14:16

I've just picked up one of my Derek Tangye books, and had a flick through. It's very gentle, authentic. He writes very simply about the day to day lives he, Jeanie and the animals live.

He talks about Jane who as a teenager lived in one of a row of cottages further along the cliff. David Cornwell (John le Carre) ultimately bought the whole row and converted it into one house.

He's very engaging, and it's made me wonder about memoirs today, and the memoirs in question on this thread, having to have a major crisis as a hook. The Tangyes had had enough of life in London and that was it.

Would a modern day writer be able to pitch a memoir about just living simply without all the extra stuff about their personal affairs? Even if they were a great writer?

Uricon2 · 12/07/2025 14:17

ClearStory · 12/07/2025 14:05

How does one pronounce ‘Tangye’? I keep getting weird ear worms from old Lilt ads when I see it…

As "Tangy"!

Aspanielstolemysanity · 12/07/2025 14:17

Bruisername · 12/07/2025 14:16

karrimor isn’t expensive? But I thought it was a sports direct brand and you could only get it there

It used to be a decent brand when I was a child (admittedly, according to my children, that was when dinosaurs roamed the earth)

maudelovesharold · 12/07/2025 14:17

ClearStory · 12/07/2025 14:05

How does one pronounce ‘Tangye’? I keep getting weird ear worms from old Lilt ads when I see it…

I think it’s ‘tangy’ as in the taste of something acidic. I’m not familiar with the old Lilt ads, so might be the same as your earworm?

User14March · 12/07/2025 14:27

FurryHappyKittens · 12/07/2025 14:16

I've just picked up one of my Derek Tangye books, and had a flick through. It's very gentle, authentic. He writes very simply about the day to day lives he, Jeanie and the animals live.

He talks about Jane who as a teenager lived in one of a row of cottages further along the cliff. David Cornwell (John le Carre) ultimately bought the whole row and converted it into one house.

He's very engaging, and it's made me wonder about memoirs today, and the memoirs in question on this thread, having to have a major crisis as a hook. The Tangyes had had enough of life in London and that was it.

Would a modern day writer be able to pitch a memoir about just living simply without all the extra stuff about their personal affairs? Even if they were a great writer?

Prob not, sadly. The Greatest Gen etc seemed so much more interesting though & good writing rarer now.

Movinghouseatlast · 12/07/2025 14:28

placemats · 12/07/2025 13:30

Cornwall can be bleak and depressing in places, especially off the beaten track - usually the coast.

Its certainly not bleak where they lived. I live nearby. It's idyllic.

diningiswest · 12/07/2025 14:28

Someone (waves to any passing journalists) needs to get hold of that Stopcock book, because if that’s not a piece of fictionalised reality I will go and buy a copy of the Salt Path.

Cleanthecoffeemachine · 12/07/2025 14:33

ThatFluentHedgehog · 12/07/2025 14:12

That's exactly what I'm saying above @AldoGordo. It's very much sticking to a script. And as we now have a local eye witness saying they fled at 2am and the bailiffs came later in the morning, we can see why. If that witness is telling the truth of course!

It's entirely possible the bailiffs had come the day before while the Winn's hid, then they did a flit that night before the bailiffs came back the following day.

Bruisername · 12/07/2025 14:33

Aspanielstolemysanity · 12/07/2025 14:17

It used to be a decent brand when I was a child (admittedly, according to my children, that was when dinosaurs roamed the earth)

Yes that’s how I remember it - I was surprised when I saw it in sports direct when I first visited one around 15 years ago so looked it up

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