Thread 4: To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?

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The Observer The real Salt Path: how a blockbuster book and film were ...

Second article in the Observer
https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-whats-in-the-book-and-what-the-observer-has-found

Third article in the Observer
https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-the-truth-behind-the-blockbuster-book-video

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Raynor Winn/Sally Walker's statement Raynor Winn

Hahah yes this made absolutely no sense even on its own terms!

Exactly!

So your line of thinking is as long as you aren't a murderer or a rapist you can do anything and it doesn't matter? It DOES matter that she embezzled money, wrote a book that she presented as the truth and clearly has a very loose grip on what the truth is. It matters to me as I bought her book and I wouldn't have had I known this beforehand.

I think people fundamentally don’t want to financially benefit a law breaker and that’s why the theft is the big part of the story

the health angle is terrible for those who took it as truth. I find it odd that a neurologist would recommend the book when he would have been aware the diagnosis on the book was not what he gave

I agree and she sounds so arrogant in the statement.

And I can’t allow any more doubt to be cast on the validity of those memories, or the joy they have given so many.

It’s like she thinks now she’s put out this dubious statement that all talk should magically stop.

Before I go any further, it’s important to say, the Observer were offered the opportunity, by my lawyers, to discuss in detail the allegations made against me to correct their inaccurate account and to be guided on the truth, on the basis that the discussion would not be made public. However, they chose not to take it, preferring to pursue their highly misleading narrative.

She was going to guide them to the truth? Is that a euphemism for trying to charm tnem into accepting her nonsense?

She's certainly not clever enough to have redacted the dates on Timothy's medical letters. Because the first letter blows all their claims of a "terminal diagnosis" just before they started their walk out of the water.

It's not remotely in the same category of illness, but I have a series of medical letters and records from 2011- 2015 showing that I have gout in my right foot. Gout of course is a condition that can be and is tested for. It isn't something you might guess at and pose as a possibility when all else fails. I was given meds for it, which worked at alleviating attacks for the first few years. They eventually stopped working and it got worse so they tried some others that didn't really help until I was eventually in pain constantly for a couple of months. I was referred to another specialist who was perplexed. It was acting atypically. More tests. Still acting atypically.

It was acting "atypically" because I am atypical! I did not have gout. I had (originally) a badly damaged tendon that eventually broke cause the ankle to break (that was the constant pain in the ankle!). All of this was perfectly "normal". What wasn't normal was that my typical levels of Uric acid, the most common indicator of gout, are commonly high and nobody can explain why. They have absolutely no explanation for that, and it seems to have no effect on me, so the best answer I have is that it is "my normal".

Misdiagnosis of perfectly common things for which there are tests is hardly uncommon. It isn't even negligence. It is just that finding a diagnosis is difficult enough when there are clear pathways to a conclusion. There are no such pathways for CBD.

Just to add, I hope not too. I loved The Outrun and it was self-deprecating and honest .

I can understand why she lied about her criminal past - covering it with a stupid lie wasn’t wise. She should have glossed over losing the house

I can’t understand why she lied about his terminal diagnosis. He wasn’t well and had worrying symptoms - wouldn’t the fear of not knowing what was going to happen be just as easy to dramatise? Was it necessary to say he only had a short time left when it would have been just as interesting if they just didn’t know and were trying to make the most of every day he is well?

I'm more inclined to believe Mrs Hemmings.
Why was there a need for a NDA if all was hunky dory and simply a 'mistake'?

I can’t link for some reason but have just read the article which goes with this picture
Very interesting and maybe The Observer were wrong

This doesn’t sound like something a lawyer would suggest.

It seems more likely that they would threaten to sue if they believed the Observer article was libellous.

As an offer to a newspaper it makes as much sense as the Cooper deal.

Deadline.com have published WYN’s response.

Who is Erik Pedersen? @caramac04 Where is the article?

Is he simply reiterating Sally Walker's statement?

I do want to make one point though, that the letters (however sketchy in terms of the CBD prove).
I, and others, on this thread we're right to call out people who thought they could tell someone was in great health from a photo . It's never ok.
So many neurological and other conditions aren't visible, or are only visible to those who know us well, or only visible at times we are too ill to leave the house.

Quite apart from all the holes in her current story, there are three hints that this may not be her first rodeo...

i) that comment from her nephew that they had left a 'trail of destruction' in other people's lives (a comment which was echoed somewhere else);
ii) the speed at which they arrived in Wales after their son had walked out into the road;
iii) the v odd facebook comment above about 'How many other houses have you stolen Sacha and Avi'

All of these may add up to nothing, but were I the journalist, this is where I would be heading.

I think her statement trying to explain herself just makes it all worse.

She should have shut up or got her lawyers onto it in a proper sense, with a statement from them.

For me, the fact she feels the need to explain herself so shows there is guilt and she's trying desperately to put an end to the speculation.

Yes, it just sets out Sally's statement in full

So, according to the DM article linked above, there was some kind of falling out between Bill Cole, the owner of the cider farm and self-described ‘’farmer, pirate and impact investor’), and the Walkers, and they do seem to have sent someone to attempt to doorstep them, but the house on the farm, acc the article, is visibly empty, with dust all over the windows only a few bits of furniture and abandoned clothes visible inside.

Locals say they haven’t seen the couple around recently.

However, the DM seems to have talked to Bill Cole ‘at the property this week’, and quotes him saying ‘Please leave, I’m the farmer here, I’ve got stuff to do.’

Oh, so it's nothing new.

Unless it’s reveals more than the Instagram posts, unlikely.

Story per Salt Path - uplifting memoir of a couple who were made homeless through no fault of their own and who reversed the symptoms of a chronic neurological disease through exercise.

Story per Observer - they lost their home because they were at best feckless and slow progression was due to Moth being either an extreme outlier or misdiagnosed.

There doesn’t seem any reason to disagree with the Observer’s version of events, so the question is whether the book’s target audience care.

@caramac04 That's old news- it was out yesterday and that's what's being discussed.

I sense a sequel film is building - the expose

I feel that the medical letters are faked but that isn’t something that anyone can verify and if I was Rhys Davies and I didn’t write that there would be nothing I could do anyway. The plot thickens……

Yes - I would love to hear that explanation from her in more detail.

So you invested some money in a business?

Yes

And when the investment was due to mature, it didn't happen, so the person owed you £100,000?

Correct

So then because he couldn't pay you, he offered you a loan from his business of £100,000.

Correct

And that loan came with interest of 18% and a charge on your house?

Correct

And when the business collapsed, you lost your house because the loan was called in?

Correct

Who was supposed to pay the loan off? Was it you?

Welll.....

But I thought that if you were owed money, then why would you pay your own loan off ?