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To think my daughter's phone has ruined her life

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mamafrustration · 08/07/2025 18:08

I am a mother to an eleven year old phone addict. She got a phone when she was eight and we have never restricted her usage, which has increased substantially in the last year. It got to the stage where she was on it almost every waking second she wasn't forced by me (DH didn't give a monkeys) to do something else. One day she clocked more than ten hours so I said enough is enough and put restrictions on it. She now has three hours a day, which I still feel is too much, but I recognise she's a tweenager and wants to text her friends, plus it's useful for emergencies and gives some comfort when she is in walking home alone from school.

When she's not on the phone she tries to use other screens by going on her laptop or watching the same handful of shows on the tv over and over. I force her to come out for a walk with me everyday, and we usually go for a coffee and talk about how she's feeling, how her day has been etc. She recently told me she is depressed, but will not accept the phone is contributing to this. I also tell her to do activities like drawing, reading, and she codes simple Scratch games on her laptop. I have to tell her to do these things because without prompting she will just lay down and stare into space miserably.

I have told her I will bankroll any hobby she wants to do, pay for any club she'd like to join, take her to any sport she can think of, and take her on holiday anywhere she wants to go but she says she doesn't want to do anything. She has zero imagination, zero curiosity, no ambitions for her future, and just wants to lay about at home on her phone all the time.

I take her on cheap holidays to get away from the house and provide her with stimulation, but she complains whenever I tell her we're going somewhere. She's not spoilt, she's well behaved, and doesn't expect anything from me, but she takes no joy in a day out or a holiday. I could say I'm taking her to Disneyland and she wouldn't want to go.

I really do feel it's abnormal for an eleven year old not to want to go out and experience things, especially fun stuff like holidays. I have always taken her away a lot and she says it's not special and she doesn't enjoy it. In the May half term I took her to London for four nights in the YHA. We did loads of things and I took her to the theatre three of the nights. When we left I asked her what her favourite thing was and she said staying up on her phone while we waited for the cheap theatre tickets to be posted at midnight. I would have killed for a trip like that at her age, and wouldn't have been able to choose the best bit because it was all great. And we do the seaside, camping, hostelling, city breaks in Travelodges with loads of places to visit... It's cheap and it's UK but it's still fun. Well, it is for me. She's not interested at all.

I blame myself for this. I should have put restrictions on the phone from the start.
Now I'm reducing the time she thinks she's being punished. I have explained to her that letting her use the phone for ten hours is bad parenting, and that I'm not going to stop trying to stimulate her with holidays and days out because I want her to have experiences. But she says I make her feel like she's a problem. She's not a problem, she's my child. But she is fighting me every step of the way.

I just don't know how to change her mindset. I don't think that taking the phone away entirely is an option because I don't want to cut her off from her friends but I do feel like it's a barrier to increasing her happiness. I want her to live her life and actually enjoy it, not feel like the only good thing in the world is spending hours and hours scrolling YouTube shorts or looking at memes. Nothing else makes her happy.

TLDR, my kid has an unhealthy phone addiction and can find no joy in anything else.

OP posts:
legoplaybook · 08/07/2025 18:12

Switch the smart phone for a old fashioned nokia. She can still text and call her friends and arrange to meet up in the park but she's not going to be doomscrolling and watching porn and self-harm content 10 hours a day.

StarDolphins · 08/07/2025 18:15

does she just text her friends or does she have apps/internet access?

Frannieisnthappy · 08/07/2025 18:15

I havent voted but I feel the same as you @mamafrustration

My child is also addicted to screens so much I feel like taking a hammer to the chrome book.

They dont have a phone and I monitor time to a point but I have created this problem - as a single parent, the screen time has helped me when I have worked longer hours etc.

I really want to support them getting the time back but the shouting and temper is a lot to deal with. I need to brace myself and stay consistent.

Any tips from anyone who has achieved a cut back in hours would be appreciated.

What is an appropriate amount of time for a yr 7?

ApolloandDaphne · 08/07/2025 18:15

Take it away from her as the PP said and replaced it with a Nokia brick. She needs to go cold turkey. You need to take back control. She can scream and cry but you have to do it. She is addicted.

Itallcomesdowntothis · 08/07/2025 18:19

If your kid was an alcoholic would you still buy them alcohol? Think about it. That’s what you are doing. Instead of buying them 20 cans of beer a day you are onky buying 10.

You are the parent . Take the phone away. 10 hours a day is beyond ridiculous. Three hours at 11 years old is till far too much. You need to get control of this before it escalates and gets even worse.

cinnamongirl123 · 08/07/2025 18:19

It’s affecting so many children negatively like this. Same here. Wish I had advice OP. We got a book called Kids Brains and Screens, very good (but expensive)- worth it if you can afford it. We still need to go through it all with DC. But important info about the effects of dopamine and screen addiction. Also read The Anxious Generation by Jonathan Haidt. We’ve also joined Parents for a Smartphone-free Childhood. Good luck OP, you’re definitely not alone
https://amzn.eu/d/2lKPMh9

cinnamongirl123 · 08/07/2025 18:21

Agree with PP about taking it away, and severely limiting it in future. Use a parental control, we use Qustodio. It’s all a fucking shit-show though, tbh

BlueJuniper94 · 08/07/2025 18:23

cinnamongirl123 · 08/07/2025 18:19

It’s affecting so many children negatively like this. Same here. Wish I had advice OP. We got a book called Kids Brains and Screens, very good (but expensive)- worth it if you can afford it. We still need to go through it all with DC. But important info about the effects of dopamine and screen addiction. Also read The Anxious Generation by Jonathan Haidt. We’ve also joined Parents for a Smartphone-free Childhood. Good luck OP, you’re definitely not alone
https://amzn.eu/d/2lKPMh9

Jean Twenge has also put out research on this.

OP I'm so sorry. The biggest issue is that so many kids also have phones with no restrictions. She will have permanent fomo. I do firmly believe that we will look at kids with smartphones the same way we look back on attitudes to kids smoking in the 60s

TyroleanKnockabout · 08/07/2025 18:24

I agree about taking her phone and getting a brick one. I reckon she’ll thank you for it eventually.

I will say though, I went through a depressive patch at 11 entirely without a smartphone. It’s a period of change (high school, onset of puberty) and I think it can very disconcerting.

PracticallyPeapod · 08/07/2025 18:29

I’m not so sure that you can be certain the phone is what has caused her to feel like this. Excessive phone use can be a symptom and not a cause. Has she had any traumatic life events? Do you think she could be neurodivergent?

hayfeverforever · 08/07/2025 18:45

My daughter’s also 11 and she got a phone for her birthday because she’s started walking to school and starts secondary school in September. We let her take it to school so we can track her but as soon as she’s home she hands it over, we don’t allow her to have it at home because she would not get off it. You need to be firm with her m op. It’s hard but its what’s needed right now

Blinkingmarvellous · 08/07/2025 18:45

I had a 10 year old YouTube addict - he didn't even have a phone. I took the app off the TV and ipad and made the ipad switch off at 6pm. He was already doing theatre club but I've added in a couple of other things with the aim of being too busy for too much screen time. I agree about 11 being a difficult age especially for girls as the hormones kick in. You could try something like Guides if there's a good group near you. Some are great others not so much. Also animals and team sports can help with being more grounded and present. You have to pay attention if a ball is hurtling towards you! Being part of a team also encourages positive character traits - turning up, doing your bit, being committed.
At the moment it sounds as if you're trying so hard but the activities don't demand much of her so she's drifting through them rather than engaging.

Blinkingmarvellous · 08/07/2025 18:46

And good luck with it all - I really feel for you.

Tealpins · 08/07/2025 18:51

Take it away. She's old enough to understand a basic introduction to the idea that big tech wants her eyeballs and attention. And that the emergent science says this will fuck her up. Have a discussion with her and then tell her you've got to replace it with a brick for her own well being. And then take it away and replace with a Nokia.

ToKittyornottoKitty · 08/07/2025 18:53

The phone has not ruined her life, she’s 11 ffs. You need to parent her and protect her, remove internet from the phone and restrict access it to all together. She’s an actual child, giving her unrestricted access to a phone is bad for her, but it is in your control to stop it. Google resources for helping kids with phone addictions, your child won’t be the first or last to deal with this issue so I’m sure there will be more professional advice out there. But ultimately you will have to do the hard thing and restrict her access.

AtLeastThreeDrinks · 08/07/2025 18:56

I’m in my 30s and feel bad if I hit three hours’ screentime! A bit down, lethargic, no drive to do anything. I really dread to think what it’s doing to young brains. She doesn’t need YouTube shorts – fair enough on the texting friends (which is mostly done via WhatsApp so I get why a brick phone isn’t a great solution). Can you delete and block certain apps? Have a chat with her about why and set some boundaries around when she’s allowed to check it. Perhaps 4-6pm but after that it’s wind-down time and the phone goes away. Her brain needs to rest before bed. She needs time to be bored in order to get creative and interested in other things.

BarilynBordeaux · 08/07/2025 19:10

I was first introduced to CAMHS when I was 12 for what was an early onset clinical mental health condition. Obviously the screen time is shit and needs to stop with firm parenting but I’d be open minded about an underlying problem too.

YourGreyCat · 08/07/2025 19:10

By allowing her to have a phone you are fueling her state of addiction. Take it away. Brick phone as other have suggested. If anyone leaves her out for not having a smartphone, it will help her weed out any crap friends.

eqpi4t2hbsnktd · 08/07/2025 19:16

Who gives an 8 year old unrestricted access to a smart phone?????

I blame you too! WTAF.

HistoricalOrchard · 08/07/2025 19:16

Just take it away from her as soon as she gets home. Allow her a few minutes in the evening just to respond to any messages then take it away again.
Laptop only for homework.
Let her be bored and whine for a few days. Don’t give in. Find things for her to do. Chores, helping with cooking, going out for walks, watching a film or tv show, arts and crafts, reading, learn to roller skate. The list is endless.
You will have a nicer child within a week.
(been there. Done that)

ThejoyofNC · 08/07/2025 19:34

Jesus Christ. Take the phone away FFS.

MarySueSaidBoo · 08/07/2025 19:37

We had a shared PC in the living room and each child had 1 hour a day access to it. No phones until they were 14 (under huge protest).

I feel so scared watching young kids with phones these days. Their eyesight is going to be fucked by their 30s.

Figgygal · 08/07/2025 19:37

My 13yo has an hour limit on his in week
2 at weekends
He can get more if genuinely us8ng it for communication if he's just scrolling shite it's a no

Thankfully he does a lot of sport but other than that he'd be on it 24/7

Pollyanna123456 · 08/07/2025 19:43

I say this as an adult with a smart phone addiction - I now have a brick phone and I am so much happier. You are the adult here and you are in control - I agree with previous posters - you need to take the smart phone off her and replace with a brick phone.

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