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To think my daughter's phone has ruined her life

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mamafrustration · 08/07/2025 18:08

I am a mother to an eleven year old phone addict. She got a phone when she was eight and we have never restricted her usage, which has increased substantially in the last year. It got to the stage where she was on it almost every waking second she wasn't forced by me (DH didn't give a monkeys) to do something else. One day she clocked more than ten hours so I said enough is enough and put restrictions on it. She now has three hours a day, which I still feel is too much, but I recognise she's a tweenager and wants to text her friends, plus it's useful for emergencies and gives some comfort when she is in walking home alone from school.

When she's not on the phone she tries to use other screens by going on her laptop or watching the same handful of shows on the tv over and over. I force her to come out for a walk with me everyday, and we usually go for a coffee and talk about how she's feeling, how her day has been etc. She recently told me she is depressed, but will not accept the phone is contributing to this. I also tell her to do activities like drawing, reading, and she codes simple Scratch games on her laptop. I have to tell her to do these things because without prompting she will just lay down and stare into space miserably.

I have told her I will bankroll any hobby she wants to do, pay for any club she'd like to join, take her to any sport she can think of, and take her on holiday anywhere she wants to go but she says she doesn't want to do anything. She has zero imagination, zero curiosity, no ambitions for her future, and just wants to lay about at home on her phone all the time.

I take her on cheap holidays to get away from the house and provide her with stimulation, but she complains whenever I tell her we're going somewhere. She's not spoilt, she's well behaved, and doesn't expect anything from me, but she takes no joy in a day out or a holiday. I could say I'm taking her to Disneyland and she wouldn't want to go.

I really do feel it's abnormal for an eleven year old not to want to go out and experience things, especially fun stuff like holidays. I have always taken her away a lot and she says it's not special and she doesn't enjoy it. In the May half term I took her to London for four nights in the YHA. We did loads of things and I took her to the theatre three of the nights. When we left I asked her what her favourite thing was and she said staying up on her phone while we waited for the cheap theatre tickets to be posted at midnight. I would have killed for a trip like that at her age, and wouldn't have been able to choose the best bit because it was all great. And we do the seaside, camping, hostelling, city breaks in Travelodges with loads of places to visit... It's cheap and it's UK but it's still fun. Well, it is for me. She's not interested at all.

I blame myself for this. I should have put restrictions on the phone from the start.
Now I'm reducing the time she thinks she's being punished. I have explained to her that letting her use the phone for ten hours is bad parenting, and that I'm not going to stop trying to stimulate her with holidays and days out because I want her to have experiences. But she says I make her feel like she's a problem. She's not a problem, she's my child. But she is fighting me every step of the way.

I just don't know how to change her mindset. I don't think that taking the phone away entirely is an option because I don't want to cut her off from her friends but I do feel like it's a barrier to increasing her happiness. I want her to live her life and actually enjoy it, not feel like the only good thing in the world is spending hours and hours scrolling YouTube shorts or looking at memes. Nothing else makes her happy.

TLDR, my kid has an unhealthy phone addiction and can find no joy in anything else.

OP posts:
KateMiskin · 08/07/2025 21:01

reversegear · 08/07/2025 20:58

I agree with this but for me it would have to be family wide. You can’t have adults having smart phones and insisting kids don’t.

Op what’s your phone usage like?

Family wide a good idea. Have a family sport or games night or trips away or literally anything.

PracticallyPeapod · 08/07/2025 21:07

LookingAtMyBhunas · 08/07/2025 20:15

Fgs.

Don’t know why you’ve replied like this. It’s hardly news that autistic children and young people find being on devices easier and preferable to interacting with the real world.

KateMiskin · 08/07/2025 21:08

I think of unrestricted phone use has been allowed since 8, it's more likely to be addiction than autism.

PracticallyPeapod · 08/07/2025 21:13

I don’t restrict my dc’s screen time. They both really enjoy YouTube but their favourite things to do are hang out with friends, they like lots of different activities, my daughter does dressmaking.

I personally think it’s a sign of something else going on if an 11 year old only wants to be on her phone and has no other interests.

igglepigglegingin · 08/07/2025 21:17

This may sound overly simplistic but surely it's a case of

  1. taking the phone away
  2. seeking perhaps some mental health support (for the short term)
  3. riding the wave of withdrawal.

You are her mum, you've seen the signs, if these were cigarettes you'd have snatched them out of her hands immediately.

She's screaming for boundaries not holidays and more hobbies.

WizardofCoz · 08/07/2025 21:18

Relatable

anonymoususer9876 · 08/07/2025 21:24

I'll admit here that both my kids had phones from their last year at primary. They are now young adults and choose not to be on social media other than watching funny vids on TikTok. They do game online with friends, one blogs about their special interest (autistic) and they prefer FaceTime chats with friends rather than messaging.

I would look at your relationship with your daughter. What does she want to do (if you remove her phone?) - what are her interests? What does she like doing at school? Maybe cinema trip with friends? She is getting to the age where she wants to spread her wings a bit without you being there (hence the holidays are a bit of drag - sorry mum but you're not 'cool'). Any clubs she can go to?

I work with this age group and they are pretty much all hormonal messes who thrive on drama, fall in and out of friendships at the drop of a hat, and don't want to hang around with their parents. So other than the excessive phone use from a young age, she sounds pretty normal to me.

Lafufufu · 08/07/2025 21:31

You recognise it’s an issue but despite being the adult with total control over this her usage is still far too high/ out of control.

your new “rules” are not going to address this….and you know it.

you don’t need strangers on the internet to tell you 3 hours plus a day isn’t healthy…

Your timing is fortunate though…summer hols are here.
Id remove it completely for summer and give her a brick phone her friends can text on in September

keep all electronic devices in one locked box no electronics in bedrooms.

you have about 3-4 yrs to get a grip on this so I’d start now today.

detoxing will prob be hell but you’ll need to commit and go with the flow

OldLondonDad · 08/07/2025 21:32

"She got a phone when she was eight and we have never restricted her usage"

WTF?

Did you wake up today and discover you're meant to be parenting your young child.

Who on earth gets their child a phone at 8 years old? And of those who do, who on earth would then have no restrictions on it?

You have a lot of damage to undo. And yes, it's your mess and your job to undo it.

StrawberryCranberry · 08/07/2025 21:43

@mamafrustration you say in your OP that you've said you'll pay for any club she wants to join, but I think you need to be more proactive than that. Don't wait for her to suggest something, take her to your local netball / trampolining / guides / cheer / drama club (based on what you think would suit her best) and sign her up.

I have three teens btw. None of them are phone addicts because they all have other interests (mainly sport and music).

OpheliaBlue · 08/07/2025 21:45

legoplaybook · 08/07/2025 18:12

Switch the smart phone for a old fashioned nokia. She can still text and call her friends and arrange to meet up in the park but she's not going to be doomscrolling and watching porn and self-harm content 10 hours a day.

I agree. Plenty of time for that when she’s 18.

waterrat · 08/07/2025 21:46

Op my 13 year old is addicted he is bigger than me and has found his way round every single phone control including qustuduo

It's poisoning our family

Take it now while she is only 11 I wish I could go back in time

LookingAtMyBhunas · 08/07/2025 21:48

PracticallyPeapod · 08/07/2025 21:07

Don’t know why you’ve replied like this. It’s hardly news that autistic children and young people find being on devices easier and preferable to interacting with the real world.

Chicken/egg.

NotOldYet · 08/07/2025 22:03

I feel as an adult my phone addiction could slip in to 10 hours a day very soon. You are doing the right thing to restrict.

Can you force a hobby, at least to try - like a block booking of horse riding lessons or something. Doesn't have to continue if she doesn't like it.

Can you offer for her to bring a friend on holiday/day out?

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 08/07/2025 22:09

This is why my 11 yo has so many hobbies! Because he defaults to wanting to watch screens a lot if he doesn’t have entertainment. He does get bored of it after a while though.

I’m wondering if there’s something more at play with your dd than just having been exposed to screens? Is there any ND involved? (Sorry if you have answered this in the hours since I began this message)

Franjipanl8r · 08/07/2025 23:01

Your DD has wasted 3 years of her childhood on something that has added zero value to her life. Throw the phone in the bin, then ride out the cold turkey phone withdrawal that follows. Then in a few months time look back and wonder why you didn’t bin the phone earlier.

Franjipanl8r · 08/07/2025 23:03

“Are they ND” no they’re just a child who’s been given something that’s highly addictive with no boundaries or limitations whatsoever! Sorry OP but you need a hard time here, you need a wake up call to do something about this for your DD’s sake.

JoyDivision79 · 08/07/2025 23:22

Franjipanl8r · 08/07/2025 23:03

“Are they ND” no they’re just a child who’s been given something that’s highly addictive with no boundaries or limitations whatsoever! Sorry OP but you need a hard time here, you need a wake up call to do something about this for your DD’s sake.

This is actually highly highly relevant. I don't know for OP if this is going on.

The phones provide huge things that actually are helpful to many autistic kids. But you have the huge huge downside that can come with it. And it's huge. The access to absolute shit and gross and awful influence is the problem for me.

I sound like a right granny, I don't think I'm stretching it when I say how much this will absolutely mess up the evolution of people. Come back to me in 50 years if I'm being dramatic 😆 Luckily I won't have to deal with it then.

I look at videos of dancing in the 90s to amazing music. There's always a comparison to today and all I think is, fuck this. It will never be the same again in many ways for people and how they connect and feel and relate.

bluecurtains14 · 08/07/2025 23:22

You gave an 8 year old unlimited phone use?

TaffetaPhrases · 09/07/2025 07:26

I read your post on the middle of the night, fretting, on holiday, with a 15 year old who takes no joy in anything, just wanders behind me like a silent shadow, devoid of personality. I’ve been so worried about his lack of engagement with the world. I think he has a problem too. I told them before the holidays that I’d be restricting access over summer because I’m trying to go for a complete reset. My husband bought him a VR headset for his birthday and he’s always on it at home.

I am horrified at what all this screen use has done to my son, honestly he’s like a zombie. Straight a student, very bright, a good lad who does the dishes without being asked and who is always there with a hug - he should be loving his best life -
but he’s like a zombie.

HistoricalOrchard · 09/07/2025 16:29

@TaffetaPhrasesgo for it. I did this with my ds. He had his head in his phone far too much. I took it off him at night so he would read but we barely saw him during the day as he was glued to his phone, moody and disengaged. I started taking it off him as soon as he came home from school and after a few days he was laughing with us, watching tv, cooking food, asking me endless “would you rather” questions. Amazing.
I looked up some too and asked him loads back. We have great dinner conversations around nonsense.
Honestly, I think we’re really doing our children a huge disservice by allowing them phones. I know not all get addicted, but far too many do.

MyCyanReader · 09/07/2025 16:36

@mamafrustration lots of schools are now recommending no smart phones til Y10 (age 14/15).

You're the parent. She's a child. No 11 year old should be spending even 3 hours a day in front of a screen!!

Get rid of the smart phone and get her a basic non Internet enabled phone.

There is lots of research now being done into the effect of smart phones on kids. They are asking parents to pledge not to get their kids smart phones.

Lots of schools are now banning smart phones completely.

parentpact.smartphonefreechildhood.co.uk/

NewbieYou · 09/07/2025 16:47

Sorry but she sounds a pathetic human. Remove the screens completely. Clearly she’s too weak to handle them.

sandwichlover93 · 09/07/2025 17:02

legoplaybook · 08/07/2025 18:12

Switch the smart phone for a old fashioned nokia. She can still text and call her friends and arrange to meet up in the park but she's not going to be doomscrolling and watching porn and self-harm content 10 hours a day.

First response nails it.

NewDogOwner · 09/07/2025 17:15

She needs a complete detox and to go through the misery and rediscover an analogue childhood and how to entertain herself. Perhaps 3 months? It just depends if you can go through with it.