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... to think that Nigel Farage will be our next PM?

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ohime · 06/07/2025 11:04

Or, more accurately: AIBU to be afraid that truly nasty piece of work Nigel Farage who has, by all accounts, always been utterly useless at (or at least completely uninterested in) the actual business end of governing will be our next PM because everyone is so fed up with all the other parties being, variously or all at once, so corrupt, incompetent and useless that we've collectively abandoned all hope? I will never vote for Farage, who is a horrible man, or any of his party which keeps having to fire people for being just a teensy bit too overtly racist - but it seems from the polls that for many people the choice against the status quo outweighs what we may be choosing. (For an example, I can't believe that Farage's stated position that DOGE in the US didn't go far enough with its swinging cuts to the social safety net would be popular with UK voters who recently elected a government on the basis that it would reverse years of Tory austerity... not that that's worked out so well...)

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beguilingeyes · 09/07/2025 11:56

The worrying thing about this for me is that it's as though the media want Farage in No.10 because he's the visual equivalent of clickbait. Hence the endless QT appearances. Ir was the same with Johnson and also Trump. They're entertainment rather than boring politicians so they're endlessly promoted and rarely challenged.

PeonyPatch · 09/07/2025 11:58

beguilingeyes · 09/07/2025 11:56

The worrying thing about this for me is that it's as though the media want Farage in No.10 because he's the visual equivalent of clickbait. Hence the endless QT appearances. Ir was the same with Johnson and also Trump. They're entertainment rather than boring politicians so they're endlessly promoted and rarely challenged.

Nailed it.

And that’s the era that we are living in. It’s personality politics.

Alexandra2001 · 09/07/2025 12:33

PeonyPatch · 09/07/2025 09:52

Ah ok, I do hear you.
maybe this is an issue with recruitment / management in your daughter’s department? I can’t say it’s the case for every service or NHS trust. We have quite good cover in my team. I don’t know what service line she works for, is she in nursing?

Community Neuro, acquired brain injury.

They've been allowed to recruit more FT staff, which has taken waiting lists from 22 weeks to just 4 weeks, these are averages, still too long as its supposed to be 24hrs but a huge improvement and down to more budget or as some would say "throwing money at the NHS"

Its not so much cover, its continuity of care, hand-over time, more back office time needed in HR, Pay roll, training - all extra costs.

MorningLarkEchoes · 09/07/2025 13:00

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Alexandra2001 · 09/07/2025 13:19

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No you didn't hence your equally stupid post

MorningLarkEchoes · 09/07/2025 14:22

Alexandra2001 · 09/07/2025 13:19

No you didn't hence your equally stupid post

Not sure why my post was deleted 🤷‍♀️ Like I said. I found it perfectly easy to understand what the other poster meant in their post.

PeonyPatch · 09/07/2025 14:22

MorningLarkEchoes · 09/07/2025 14:22

Not sure why my post was deleted 🤷‍♀️ Like I said. I found it perfectly easy to understand what the other poster meant in their post.

Your post was quite patronising and rude.

MorningLarkEchoes · 09/07/2025 14:26

PeonyPatch · 09/07/2025 14:22

Your post was quite patronising and rude.

A bit like some of Alexandra’s posts then.

BIossomtoes · 09/07/2025 14:28

MorningLarkEchoes · 09/07/2025 14:26

A bit like some of Alexandra’s posts then.

Report them if that’s what you think.

Quirkswork · 09/07/2025 14:28

MorningLarkEchoes · 09/07/2025 14:26

A bit like some of Alexandra’s posts then.

Tbf while @Alexandra2001 is seldom right in what she says (in my opinion only, of course), I have never noticed her to be rude.

Alexandra2001 · 09/07/2025 14:56

Quirkswork · 09/07/2025 14:28

Tbf while @Alexandra2001 is seldom right in what she says (in my opinion only, of course), I have never noticed her to be rude.

I'm always right, in my opinion of course! lol!

But i appreciate your post Wine

StandFirm · 10/07/2025 16:35

dontcryformeargentina · 09/07/2025 09:03

I agree with this statement. If nothing changes, there will be civil war in the UK as per professor David Betz..

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David Betz is notoriously pro authoritarian. I have seen that interview. The man has also praised Victor Orban. There's a clear nationalist bias here.

StandFirm · 10/07/2025 16:39

beguilingeyes · 09/07/2025 11:56

The worrying thing about this for me is that it's as though the media want Farage in No.10 because he's the visual equivalent of clickbait. Hence the endless QT appearances. Ir was the same with Johnson and also Trump. They're entertainment rather than boring politicians so they're endlessly promoted and rarely challenged.

Indeed! Can we stop bigging up Reform at every turn? It'll end up being a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Namitynamename · 10/07/2025 20:43

StandFirm · 10/07/2025 16:39

Indeed! Can we stop bigging up Reform at every turn? It'll end up being a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Namitynamename · 10/07/2025 20:44

I feel like dooming about things is an ancient British past time

Brunettesmorefun · 05/09/2025 23:27

There was a Labour MP speaking on TV this evening and it was so shocking. Running down the Labour Party, how depressed he is, how energetic and positive Reform are and how they will probably win the next election. He sounded completely defeated. It does make me worry about the future.

beguilingeyes · 06/09/2025 03:47

They want to give money to the Taliban! The Taliban!
After the recent earthquake in Afghanistan, women aren't being dug out of the rubble because the men won't touch them and Farage wants to give these evil swine money.

hotelinfo · 06/09/2025 06:54

I think sadly, it may come to pass that Reform are voted in, but I think If this happens, Farage will quickly resign. He is nothing but a media grifter, he won't want to be actually held to account for anything in actual government. He's only interested in stirring up hatred and division. He knows that 'talking the talk' is not the same thing as 'walking the walk.' He'll be off to a media career in the US in a flash.

Just like the day after the Brexit vote. Imagine, this man achieved his lifelong dream of Brexit. So come on Nigel, 'Take back control' then. Now is your moment - show us all the wonders of this great new Brexit dawn you've persuaded people to vote for.... No. What does he promptly do? He resigns the next day! You couldn't make it up.

Quirkswork · 06/09/2025 09:30

hotelinfo · 06/09/2025 06:54

I think sadly, it may come to pass that Reform are voted in, but I think If this happens, Farage will quickly resign. He is nothing but a media grifter, he won't want to be actually held to account for anything in actual government. He's only interested in stirring up hatred and division. He knows that 'talking the talk' is not the same thing as 'walking the walk.' He'll be off to a media career in the US in a flash.

Just like the day after the Brexit vote. Imagine, this man achieved his lifelong dream of Brexit. So come on Nigel, 'Take back control' then. Now is your moment - show us all the wonders of this great new Brexit dawn you've persuaded people to vote for.... No. What does he promptly do? He resigns the next day! You couldn't make it up.

Resigns from what though? He wasn't in government or an MP so had no power to do anything and instead it was left to the imbeciles in the H of C who made our position so weak that we just had to roll over. Did you think they would allow Nigel Farage to sort the deal out? Or have any say in the matter at all?

hotelinfo · 06/09/2025 10:17

The day after Brexit, Farage resigned from UKIP and resigned from political life.

Si no good him whinging that they didn't do Brexit right. He ran away.

Instead he preferred to pontificate and snipe on LBC and GB News.

He to be dragged to run as MP for Clacton. How much time has he actually spent in his constituency?

He would run for the hills if people are stupid enough to vote for him as PM. Or rather, run for a more lucrative job in US media, where he can snipe from the sidelines and stir up hatred, while not actually being held accountable for anything of substance. He is a businessman and media grifter.

Quirkswork · 06/09/2025 10:19

hotelinfo · 06/09/2025 10:17

The day after Brexit, Farage resigned from UKIP and resigned from political life.

Si no good him whinging that they didn't do Brexit right. He ran away.

Instead he preferred to pontificate and snipe on LBC and GB News.

He to be dragged to run as MP for Clacton. How much time has he actually spent in his constituency?

He would run for the hills if people are stupid enough to vote for him as PM. Or rather, run for a more lucrative job in US media, where he can snipe from the sidelines and stir up hatred, while not actually being held accountable for anything of substance. He is a businessman and media grifter.

Funny. I think you give him more power than the power he actually had at the time (which was none).

hotelinfo · 06/09/2025 10:49

He was leader of UKIP. If you want to influence policy, you stay in politics. You don't resign at a critical moment. Brexit was Farage's life ambition! You would think, having achieved that, he'd be more galvanised than ever to stay in politics. But no.

Because he knew the whole thing would be the utter shit show it has been and he didn't want to be associated with the messy practicalities.

The man is a snake.

Quirkswork · 06/09/2025 11:29

hotelinfo · 06/09/2025 10:49

He was leader of UKIP. If you want to influence policy, you stay in politics. You don't resign at a critical moment. Brexit was Farage's life ambition! You would think, having achieved that, he'd be more galvanised than ever to stay in politics. But no.

Because he knew the whole thing would be the utter shit show it has been and he didn't want to be associated with the messy practicalities.

The man is a snake.

Brexit was hashed out badly in the government and the H of C. He wasnt an MP and he did a deal with Boris to keep Jeremy Corbyn out. He stupidly thought that the British government and the British MPs could be relied on to act in Britain's interests. As this turned out to be wrong he's had to set up Reform. Do you feel he has to be in charge of everyone and that's the only way the job is going to get done properly? Because it sounds like you think someone who at the time was unelected should have been running the Brexit negotiations!!

hotelinfo · 06/09/2025 14:24

I'm not arguing he needed to be PM. But, let's be honest, the referendum would never have happened at all were in not for Farage. When UKIP got the result Farage has campaigned for - through his whole adult life - you would think, he would seize on that momentum. You would think he'd be there, campaigning for 'the people' who he manipulated. Not resign the next day!