... to think that Nigel Farage will be our next PM?

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Or, more accurately: AIBU to be afraid that truly nasty piece of work Nigel Farage who has, by all accounts, always been utterly useless at (or at least completely uninterested in) the actual business end of governing will be our next PM because everyone is so fed up with all the other parties being, variously or all at once, so corrupt, incompetent and useless that we've collectively abandoned all hope? I will never vote for Farage, who is a horrible man, or any of his party which keeps having to fire people for being just a teensy bit too overtly racist - but it seems from the polls that for many people the choice against the status quo outweighs what we may be choosing. (For an example, I can't believe that Farage's stated position that DOGE in the US didn't go far enough with its swinging cuts to the social safety net would be popular with UK voters who recently elected a government on the basis that it would reverse years of Tory austerity... not that that's worked out so well...)

I agree. Besides, he was fab on I'm a celebrity.

Well I’m glad we don’t have a presidential system - the polls are a vote for Farage as PM, seat by seat though, the reform candidates will mostly be dross so this won’t turn into the seats predicted. Labour and the tories will recover a bit by then.

Butna lot of people do want real change .

I don't disagree with everything he says...I don't agree with everything either.

He won't be prime minister though....

I've been seeing posts on twitter from people saying 'I voted for Donald Trump to own the libs and now I'm losing my Medicaid and I'm scared'.

Perhaps a case of be careful what you wish for.

Not unreasonable at all. At the very least they’ll be the largest party in a hung parliament. The only thing that can stop that outcome is some kind of Reform implosion, or Labour getting their act together in a very significant way.

The two main parties have paved the way for this shit show. Ordinary people don’t see any meaningful change regardless of which of the two main parties they vote for. They aren’t listened to, they’re dismissed. Neither Labour or Conservatives think there is anything fundamentally wrong with the status quo, they just think it needs to be managed better. I’m afraid most people don’t see it that way.

I don’t want this to come across as a pro-Reform post. I think they’ll be a total disaster. They offer simplistic solutions to fundamentally complex problems. However, their analysis of what the problems are is sometimes spot on, and like it or not, they chime with a large proportion of the population.

I won’t be voting for them, but I don’t blame anyone for doing so - and the blame for this situation lies solely with the “mainstream” political parties that have snoozed and just let this happen.

https://hopenothate.org.uk/2025/06/13/dropping-like-flies-reform-loses-nine-councillors-in-six-weeks/

Let’s see how the Reform councillors pan out first shall we. 😏

Also I’m not sure Farage wants the job,too much like hard work and Reform policies seem a bit thin on the ground.

Labour got in on a protest vote, if they carry on like they are they won’t be in power for many years after the next election. Thank goodness.

I don’t think it’ll be NF actually but I’m not sure who it’ll be yet. If the Conservatives can do a complete reset and distance themselves from Boris then they may have a chance. Unless this country sees wide led reform then things are going to get markedly worse.

He won’t and the young people coming through are generally v well informed so their vote will make the difference to the aging dumbos

I would love Nigel Farage to be the next Prime Minister. I think he would sort immigration, cut welfare and lower taxes

What I don’t understand is this: the Lib Dems are (or were) the third biggest party, so why the hell aren’t they sorting themselves out and coming up with a really strong leadership and manifesto while the other two are so unbelievably dreadfu? Surely they’d be onto a winner?!

Farage is a campaigner he doesn’t actually like to do the work that being an involved serious politician you have to do and he isn’t going to get their on just that. American politics is different when it can be about the campaign

also he needs financial backing

He is relatively quiet at the moment when he absolutely could be all over the press he is probably having a bit of a break

Because who on earth are the LibDems? What are they? Other than some vague safe protest vote for middle class people. They're nothing.

I really, really hope not.

But then I remember thinking that the idea of Boris actually becoming PM was laughable. Lots of things are unthinkable until they happen.

How though, they're not a political party are they? Will they even be allowed? I'm not clued up on that stuff.

He's also said he doesn't want to be PM in the past and reform are realising that being in charge of shit is hard work.

He's all gob and make money the easy way. There's no way he'll want that kind of hard graft.

There’s almost certainly a lot of bad stuff to emerge about Reform and to happen soon enough now they have some local power, that will turn people off. They’ll still do well though - out of voter exasperation if nothing else. But it would be disastrous were he to be PM.

Labour’s problem is that they have no excuses. They must stop the lying and hypocrisy. They need to stop trying to have it all ways: you can’t give into Labour backbenchers and shouty unions whenever they get restless and at the same time pretend to be taking care of the economy. I have a feeling Miliband’s expensive zealotry will sink them as well.

Starmer looks politically very wobbly to me. Even a brief economic crisis in the next year and he’ll be forced out by his own party. Virtually every commitment or promise Labour made in opposition has been broken or shown to be hollow.

While the Tories remain irrelevant, it’s Reform that will make the running. Sadly.

Are they voting though? It's often the younger generations who don't

He wants to put taxes on your Amazon purchases in order to give tax breaks to business owners.

And Trump was voted president, twice

Given the way our voting system works he won’t be

Has he said how?

Is it hard graft though? Did Starmer not say he wasn't doing any more than 9-5?

although it’s high time there was a break on Amazon’s endless killing of the high street…

Nick Clegg won over a lot of people who would have been labour voters, who then felt betrayed when he abandoned his principles and formed a co-olition with the Tories. They've never recovered. If ever there was a time for them to step up, figure out what it is they actually stand for and offer some sort of credible alternative then this is it but they don't seem to be doing or saying anything to seize the opportunity.

Four years is a long time in politics.

Isn't that a good thing.