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Michael Jackson was a paedophile. Why does the local school choose one of his songs for the kids to perform to?

284 replies

P0d · 05/07/2025 08:36

I also have a friend whose little boy has learnt all his moves and she puts MJ on for him to dance to.

I don’t understand, hearing his music makes me feel sick.

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Scillygirlz · 05/07/2025 10:30

x2boys · 05/07/2025 10:17

An under 18 year old isn't really comparable to a five year old is it?

Both would be classed as ‘paedos’.

minnienono · 05/07/2025 10:32

Michael Jackson performed other people’s songs eg Earth Song, a popular one for schools was written by someone else and simply recorded by Jackson, and whilst he did compose basic melodies and lyrics for some songs they were arranged and put together by others as he didn’t know how to read or write music nor arrange parts.

ToadRage · 05/07/2025 10:34

You don't know he was paedophile, the courts found him innocent. He was a very rich man and its not stretch to think some skanky parents thought they could make a buck by falsely accusing him. Aside from any of that he was hugely talented and his music is timeless.

GeorgeA12 · 05/07/2025 10:35

Sassybooklover · 05/07/2025 08:50

MJ was never convicted of a crime involving children in a Court. This is why his music is still played on the radio/TV/online. It doesn't matter that there were glaring red flags, or suspicion, he still wasn't convicted. Whereas 70's artist Gary Glitter has been convicted and been in prison (currently still is, I believe) and therefore his music is no longer played on the radio/TV.

Wasn't his music in The Joker film?

Throwitawayagain · 05/07/2025 10:35

PansyPotter84 · 05/07/2025 08:46

I don’t think being dead has anything to do with it.

I think there’s a difference between the likes of Jimmy Savile etc against whom there were so many credible allegations and Michael Jackson, who was a tad eccentric against whom a few allegations were made that didn’t stand up to scrutiny.

I take ot you didn't watch the Neverland documentary.

Sassybooklover · 05/07/2025 10:35

My son has heard MJ's music, and liked a few of his tracks. I never told him, he couldn't listen to the tracks or turned the TV off if a music video of his came on. He's now 14, he's also very much aware of the allegations surrounding MJ, and that his behaviour was questionable at best and at worst a child molester. I can safely say my son hasn't been scared for life because he listened to his tracks and he's now aware of MJ's past. I personally wouldn't see the MJ musical, and I don't actively listen to his music, if a track comes into the radio, I may sing along. MJ's estate would be receiving royalties from the music that is played, unless all his back catalogue was sold after his death, so yes in a roundabout way, he is still making money in death.

x2boys · 05/07/2025 10:37

Scillygirlz · 05/07/2025 10:30

Both would be classed as ‘paedos’.

They wouldn't becsuse a paedophile is someone who is attracted to prepubescent children,
A man in his 20,s being attracted to a 16/17 year old is questionable but not illegal
A man who is attracted to prepubescent children and acts on it is very much illegal.

x2boys · 05/07/2025 10:39

ToadRage · 05/07/2025 10:34

You don't know he was paedophile, the courts found him innocent. He was a very rich man and its not stretch to think some skanky parents thought they could make a buck by falsely accusing him. Aside from any of that he was hugely talented and his music is timeless.

Well he certainly paid some parents off ,strange behaviour gor someone entirely innocent.

x2boys · 05/07/2025 10:41

Throwitawayagain · 05/07/2025 10:35

I take ot you didn't watch the Neverland documentary.

Even the Martin Bashir interview was uncomfortable, MJ was more than a Tad eccentric.

PinkSwatch · 05/07/2025 10:42

Whilst I see where you coming from, and I do agree with you to an extent, where do you draw the line? So, stop listening to any of MJ's music. Stop listening to any songs that sampled his music. Stop watching anything made by the Weinstein company, or anything they were associated with. Stop listening to Diddy's music. Stop listening to any artist that was associated with Diddy or signed to his label, or sampled his music. Stop watching anything made by Roman Polanski or Woody Allen. Stop reading or watching anything by Neil Gaiman. Stop watching anything written or directed by Joss Whedon. Stop watching anything with Johnny Depp in. Stop watching anything with Brad Pitt in. Stop watching anything with Casey Affleck in.

The list is frickin endless, you can't possibly keep track of ALL the famous people who have raped and assaulted people (mostly women and children). You'd end up not watching any media or listening to any music.

Throwitawayagain · 05/07/2025 10:42

Because people will twist themselves in knots creating a narrative that suits them, rather than accepting the truth.
Of course he was a predatory pedophile, who targeted prepubescent boys who were vulnerable due to family ambition. The sort of people who encourage their child to share a bed with an unrelated man are the sane sort of people who promote nonsense about Jackson being a sweet, innocent asexual manchild.

Iamtarticus · 05/07/2025 10:44

Jimmy Saville was never convicted, doesn’t make him innocent

Goonie1 · 05/07/2025 10:44

Nobody mentioning Elvis?!

LittlleMy · 05/07/2025 10:44

P0d · 05/07/2025 08:39

But that child will grow up and realise mummy was making him dance to paedo songs

Tbh by then like a lot of people he will already be positively bonded to MJs music and if he later hears of the suspicions about him I don’t think it will scar him especially as he was never formally convicted of anything (which yes regardless of hearsay matters to a lot of people). And that is enough for many people in the world to continue enjoying his musical legacy. I’m not sure what being vindictive and shocked about his music being played by others will achieve now the man is gone. You’ll forever be fighting a losing battle and just appearing odd for holding onto such ‘concerns’. Keep the focus on teaching your kids of the current real dangers of the world as they are now!

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 05/07/2025 10:45

tripleginandtonic · 05/07/2025 08:51

I really doubt they'd be forever scarred by this.

🤣🤣🤣
Right?

x2boys · 05/07/2025 10:46

Goonie1 · 05/07/2025 10:44

Nobody mentioning Elvis?!

Several posters.

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 05/07/2025 10:47

ToadRage · 05/07/2025 10:34

You don't know he was paedophile, the courts found him innocent. He was a very rich man and its not stretch to think some skanky parents thought they could make a buck by falsely accusing him. Aside from any of that he was hugely talented and his music is timeless.

He made children under the age of ten share a bed with him.

He was a paedophile.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 05/07/2025 10:48

Scillygirlz · 05/07/2025 10:30

Both would be classed as ‘paedos’.

No, ephebophilia is different to pedophilia.

16 is the legal age for sexual activity, even marriage in some cultures.

I'm not saying it is good, but different.

Loki64 · 05/07/2025 10:51

Im actually shocked at the ampunt of people on here, people who have kids, that are defending a clear pedophile.

So if michael jackson was still alive you'd let ur child be alone with him, sleeping in his bed, in a room where they found numerous sex toys? Give over.

There are NUMEROUS allegations. Its very difficult to prosecute in these cases. The victims are children, going up against a very rich man.

I was abused as a child, it was in years watching the never land documentary because I felt every emotion of those victims. How people can say they were ALL false is so naive.

My dad is a convicted pedophile, a very wealthy one at that. A child came out 20 years ago with allegations, and it got thrown out of court because the child was distressed and confused on the stand. He got let out. 20 years later hes now in prison for further sexual abuse on a different child. Not getting a conviction means absolutely nothing when its a child going up against an adult. A very distressed child at that.

Stop being so naive. The man was a clear pedophile that molested numerous little boys, paid off their parents, groomed them, and then disposed of them when they hit puberty. Hiding behind a false character of a stupid put on child like voice, and claiming he loves being around children because hes also child like to pull the wool over everyones eyes. He knew exactly what he was doing.

itsgettingweird · 05/07/2025 10:52

My first thought was it was never proven too. So I’m glad to see others think the same.

As for using his music I do think people separate the artist from the person - especially since most young children won’t have known who he was - just his music.

Beeinalily · 05/07/2025 10:53

I don't think he was. I think he had some serious mental health problems, but I don't think that was one of them, but we'll never know. Nevertheless, his music was perfect for kids to dance to.

BlueandPinkSwan · 05/07/2025 10:54

P0d · 05/07/2025 08:39

But that child will grow up and realise mummy was making him dance to paedo songs

Making her child dance to like a puppet you mean?
FFS get a grip, MJ music is going to stick around because so many people like it,
myself included.
There will be people who don't like it because of the so called connection but they are entitled to their own opinion like everyone else.

EasyTouch · 05/07/2025 10:54

dontcomeatme · 05/07/2025 08:37

Was it proved he was a paedophile? I didn't think it was x

He met every bullet point that identifies a paedophile.
EVERY.

SquirrelMadness · 05/07/2025 10:55

Loki64 · 05/07/2025 09:50

I find it more baffling when people think he was innocent. To me it makes no difference he wasn't convicted. The evidence and the documentary was enough for me. He was a pedophile.

Hard agree, I was convinced he was a paedophile before the documentary came out.

Grown men do not seek out young boys to share a bed with for innocent reasons. It's just so obvious that he was grooming and abusing them. I can't believe anyone thinks this was innocent.

And to anyone saying we have to separate the artist from the art, no we do not have to. I hate hearing his music playing now, my immediate reaction to it is to think of the innocent young boys he hurt, I can't just turn that off.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 05/07/2025 10:55

ToadRage · 05/07/2025 10:34

You don't know he was paedophile, the courts found him innocent. He was a very rich man and its not stretch to think some skanky parents thought they could make a buck by falsely accusing him. Aside from any of that he was hugely talented and his music is timeless.

I thought in 2025. We finally got to the stage where sexual assaults were taking seriously without assuming the victim is a money grabber.

I would bet my life that false accusations are minimal.

I was a young child when Mike Tyson was accused, hearing adults call her a money grabber. I knew that was very wrong as a child.

I note you used skanky? Is this a reference to poverty?