Tax increases imminent

[Iwishicouldflyhigh]

Heavy hints that taxes will rise in the next Budget after the recent climb down (as the ‘taxes won’t rise again’ was based on a 5 billion saving in benefits).

I can’t lie, I’m so pissed off about this. I don’t think anyone wants to see someone who is genuinely unable to work to be further penalised, but we all know there are thousands of people who could work but don’t.

this country is going to absolute shit . We pay more and more for less and less.

Of course taxes will have to rise if savings cannot be found elsewhere. Tories voted for tax rises effectively.

Probably more than Labour’s pledge not to raise taxes

@Iwishicouldflyhigh

It is about bloody time. They should never have said they wouldn't, they should never have put chains around themselves with stupid fiscal rules.

We have the lowest rate of tax of most European countries, if not all. All this stuff we want has to be paid for, and that happens via taxation. Of course there are savings to be made, and the money needs to be administered wisely, but we need to a) get to a level of taxation that provides the level of service the electorate demand / expect, and b) correct the mismanagement of the previous administration.

The thing is when taxes increase nothing changes. We never see anything change for our money. If we all saw improvements people would accept it, but we don’t. It’s like it gets poured into a black hole.

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I just cant believe its as bad as the UK sorry!

Well yes I agree with this, they should never have said they wont. But my point is WHY they wont say it - and its because people dont
want to - and so yeah public services suffer. You just cant have it both ways.

It's not a question of what you "believe" or not.

Germany had a lot further to fall, and they're managing that terrifically.

BoJo was the biggest charlatan, self serving, corrupt PM how the poster fails to see it is amazing. Denial is a wonderful thing.

Did you type that out with a straight face?

Well yes this is the problem - which is why we need a competent Government to run the country.

Immigration does cost a lot of money - from taxpayers

about £10 billion a year they reckon 🤷‍♀️

Ah well, least we are being kind

The country went to shit under the Tories and nobody knows how to fix it. I wouldn't do that job for nowt me

But you don't get to make a sweeping statement, to back up an argument, like "Germany is better run" if you don't know the current situation, quality of life and haven't been there recently. But rather you just have a hunch that here is worse!

I’m serious when I ask what Boris lied about

Bullshit and lies are distinct categories

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That's because our tax rises are going on a) the soaring debt interest and b) the soaring welfare bill

Obviously nothing will improve before those two things are brought under control.

Exactly what did people think would happen after the then-government's response to Covid? I imagine lots of people now complaining are the ones who were calling for longer lockdowns and more furlough (like Labour were)

I guess they never have the nerve to raise taxes to really fix things though - all o have seen over the last decades is trying to reduce the rate of decline

now strictly speaking a slower rate of decline or stabilisation is an improvement but probably doesn’t feel like one

also tax rises happen on day one and the improvements may take 5 years to really happen - to reintroduce sure start will take time and it will
yake even longer before the befits of the program than filter through into schools and society

We are 16th in Europe for income tax rates, out of 35 countries

Some countries have a 10% income tax.

Also we spend a comparatively decent amount on the nhs, but have a productivity gap.

That £120 billion figure is widely disputed. HMRC had it at £33billion for the same year. If you take government figures for other shortfalls, you should take the government figure for the tax shortfall as well- not cherry pick data to fit a narrative.

But then think how much better off we'd be if we fixed our tax collection AND reduced benefit fraud. Why should we just focus on one area? They are different government departments, with different staff and resources.

Here you go...

www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/dec/10/lies-accusations-boris-johnson-full-list-dishonesty-christmas-party

Why call people bots before asking for an opinion. You have a pro Labour view and post it without the same

I can’t lie, I’m so pissed off about this. I don’t think anyone wants to see someone who is genuinely unable to work to be further penalised, but we all know there are thousands of people who could work but don’t.

Luckily there are about 1.6 million people out of work of whom about 330,000 have disabilities. So there are plenty of people who are able to work but are not doing so. The fact there aren't enough jobs for them anyway is by the by. But how come it takes one second to go from "out of work" to "genuinely unable to work / disabled" when so many people who should be work ready are out of work?

To be clear, I know that the reasons people may be unemployed, but it is getting tiring that the entire focus is on the disabled. Unemployment is much more multi-facted than who is or isn't "genuinely unable to work".

FWIIW I receive PIP and have worked my entire life until retiring at the age of 67. Am I "genuine" enough? ecause many people with my level of disability wouldn't be able to work. It isn't as simple and deciding who is or isn't "genuine", and if it is about unemployment, then why is the debate always framed around disability?

And how many more threads from pissed off able-bodied people do we need anyway?