Non-binary teacher?

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Name change.
I’ve got a 5 year old daughter due to go into year 2 in September. We’ve just been told that the teacher for next year is a non-binary/‘non-gender-conforming’ man who wants to be referred to by ‘Mx’ (pronounced mix) and they/them pronouns.
Quite a few of the parents have already complained and started looking for other places at local schools because of this.
what do you think?
My daughter has SEN and is one of the youngest in her class, I worry how she’s going to be able to keep up with the pronouns and understand this without us having to teach her about gender ideology at her age. My husband is extremely against teaching her gender ideology, especially so young, I’m not the most positive about it either but don’t feel as strongly as him. He also doesn’t want her being at the school in September but they have been very supportive for her so far and I’m concerned it might not be the same elsewhere.
Thoughts? How would you feel if this was your child’s teacher?

Yes and they're potentially at risk from violence from other men in them, not that you care about that because your comfort and safety is all that matters.

And now women have to have transmen, pumped full of testosterone in our toilets. Truly ideal.

By forcing his 6 year old pupils to call him Mx and pretending he is neither male or female, or is both male and female (who knows, it is fucking nonsense), he IS bringing his sex to the foreground as an identifying feature.

Also, it is Mx not Ms so you've just mishonorificed him. Educate yourself.

By whom?

There's absolutley no evidence transwomen have been harmed when using the gents, in the UK, none at all, and many frequently do.

There has always been a desire for certain men to enter these spaces. I remember a few times in my youth pervy men being thrown out of the ladies, but that was when we were allowed to complain about such things.

The answer to transwomen feeling scared to use male facilities (although there's no evidence they need to be) is not to make women more scared and vulnerable by permitting them into women's spaces, so why is that what they're pushing for and not third-spaces?

I've made it to my age without being influenced to become trans or non binary. It wasn't presented in school as fact like religion was.

Yes. Women’s safety and comfort is more important to me in WOMEN’S SPACES.

Why isn’t it more important to you?

Pervy men ≠ transwomen

So you're saying transmen pumped full of testosterone are more of a threat than actual men pumped full of testosterone? Where's your evidence for that?

Straw man.
I gave a specific example of how a teacher needing to be called they/them equates to a teacher requiring a class to pray to their chosen deity.

But in any case, a lunchtime church group is presumably optional. Attendance in class isn't.

You've absolutely been influenced to pretend that men are women, and that non-binary is a thing. Otherwise you'd not be here explaining why 6 year olds should have to sit and spend a year with a man lying to them every single day.

Didn't say they were. Do you have reading comprehension issues? They're still men, though, and we need to keep all men out so we can keep the pervy ones out.

And, again, official government stats show transwomen are more likely to commit sex offences than other men.

Actually women’s loos were associated with feminism. Men’s public loos began in the mid 19th c but aside from a few women’s loos at the London Exhibition, we were tethered by the ‘urinary leash’. The suffragette movement and the Great War, which put women to work in factories, were behind the first wave of public loos for women and a self evident requirement of modesty was the reason for segregation.

Interestingly, Selfridges London opened a public women’s loo in 1909 in order to support the suffragettes!

How do we figure out which ones are the pervy ones?
Maybe the ones demanding access to women’s spaces?

As I said I know people who might do similar, which is no doubt a horrible experience for all concerned, but no-one is criminalising that.

You can't make the leap from the fact that one person, who happened to be autistic, was found guilty of a transphobic hate crime, to conclude that autistic people in general are at risk of being criminalised for not understanding gender identity or because of asking "innocent questions".

you couldn't possibly associate with them in any space
Sorry but unless I misunderstand massively, no one has said or implied that. I certainly don't think that, FWIW.
People being raped in spaces other than women's changing rooms or toilet doesn't mean we shouldn't bother having them. Or do you think it does? If so, why?

Where is the evidence that transwomen are at risk in men's spaces?

And even if this were true, why would men, being at risk from other men, in men's spaces - be women's problem to solve?

I absolutely believe women's safety and comfort are important — just like everyone's safety and comfort are. I don't think we need to see it as a competition. We can care about women's spaces while also acknowledging that others deserve safety and respect too. It's not either-or for me.

I am just not minded to demonise every trans person on the planet because of a few bad actors. In the same way I'm not going to demonise every man on the planet because of a huge amount of huge bad actors amongst their cohort

Do forgive me for wanting to maintain spaces where women and girls can have privacy from men and some degree of safety when they are 78% of all rape/SA victims.

Whatever next!!

So no evidence of any actual harm to these men, just a ‘potential’? As opposed to actual harm caused by letting men into women’s spaces? Like the 11yr old girl SAd in the supermarket toilet by a man who was on bail for filming another young girl in the toilets but was allowed into the ladies by his social worker anyway?

That’s two girls that could have been saved serious trauma for a start. Do they matter?

Not really, unless the teacher wanted the children to swear allegiance to the non binary/ trans movement.

No but it's not recognised in law either. Non binary is made up nonsense

I would never ever tell DD to approach a man, with or without children, for assistance.

Explain to me how in this scenario:

women want access to male-free spaces

some males want access to women’s male-free spaces

You think the males are the ones who are the most vulnerable and deserving and how you can simultaneously claim to think women’s safety is important?

But no one is doing that. We all agree everyone should be safe, we just don't think women's safety should be compromised by handing over our spaces to transwomen (who are men). You might say you care about women's safety, but if you want to let men into our spaces, you aren't supporting our safety in any meaningful way. Women are something like nine times more likely to be assaulted in mixed sex facilities.

Requiring the children to use they/them pronouns is certainly a form of pledging allegiance,

My daughter was sexually assaulted by her best friends dad, he was sentenced last month. I understand men are a threat, in any situation. They do not need to pretend to be a woman in order to gain access to a victim. The idea that they do is beyond stupid. Precisely nobody is going to go to the effort of becoming female in order to commit assault.