Non-binary teacher?

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Name change.
I’ve got a 5 year old daughter due to go into year 2 in September. We’ve just been told that the teacher for next year is a non-binary/‘non-gender-conforming’ man who wants to be referred to by ‘Mx’ (pronounced mix) and they/them pronouns.
Quite a few of the parents have already complained and started looking for other places at local schools because of this.
what do you think?
My daughter has SEN and is one of the youngest in her class, I worry how she’s going to be able to keep up with the pronouns and understand this without us having to teach her about gender ideology at her age. My husband is extremely against teaching her gender ideology, especially so young, I’m not the most positive about it either but don’t feel as strongly as him. He also doesn’t want her being at the school in September but they have been very supportive for her so far and I’m concerned it might not be the same elsewhere.
Thoughts? How would you feel if this was your child’s teacher?

Asking someone to use made-up incorrect words about you is absolutely asking someone to buy into your ideology.

Trans movement is much more insidious. They wheedle behind the scenes and often threaten out in public to try to tamper with other's rights . Fortunately institutions are beginning to open their eyes.

You can't prove that God doesn't exist. You can prove that human beings are not non-binary.

That’s what LGBTQIA groups in schools do. Attendance and indoctrination for cookies. Also gaming forums and other online spaces are stalked by men looking for ‘eggs’ to crack - ie vulnerable kids to persuade. They are very open about it in their online forums in Reddit etc.

It’s not ok to push religion and its not ok to push trans ideology.

Nope. I'd even go so far as to say that I wouldn't feel safe leaving my child in the care of someone who was trying to force the rest of the world to play along with his delusion. I would be looking for alternatives.

Needing people to use pronouns that are incorrect most certainly is pushing.

Who do you think is being marginalised? Spaces for the male sex and the female sex both exist.

He is identifying as a human being rather than a human man or woman. I honestly can't see the problem. He is a person and just like I can say I want to identify as a pensioner/a parent or whatever so can he.

Actually while he's at work he can just identify as a teacher because that's the important thing when he's teaching.

The OP covers this, in clear and simple language, in her first post.

That's encouraging to hear, FrippEnos, but doesn't always take account of some activists' determination to "spread the word" no matter what the cost - or, come to that, the glee they sometimes show when correction enables them to claim discrimination yet again

On similar lines, it's notable that some present the possibilities with this teacher as being either "reporting a non-hate crime" or being relaxed about a child's mistake, as if there's nothing in between

Unfortunately experience teaches that there can be a lot in between, little of it good or helpful to the wider community

Actually while he's at work he can just identify as a teacher because that's the important thing when he's teaching

Edited to add this is true, @TheignT, but the kids have still got to call him something and if he wishes to make an issue of his "label" - which the school's communications suggest may be the case - other issues could follow

Much could also depepnd on whether the school were aware of his identification when they appointed him, in that it could inform what their approach is likely to be if there are difficulties

Also @BundleBoogie - I've never felt the need to tell my children not to go off with "strange MEN" or to find a "WOMAN with children" for help. I've always told them to go find a "parent" and not go off anywhere with "strangers". Perhaps that's having DS rather than DD I don't know but I've genuinely never felt this was a distinction I needed to make, still less giving specific consideration to whether people are trans or not.

When the children ask why he is called Mx, or why they mustn't refer to him as 'he' when he is obviously a bloke, what will he say? "Well children, I am both male and female" or "I am neither male nor female" - what'll it be? Wait - is his name Jeffrey Marsh?

Sadly, many male parents are also abusers, so it is statistically, at least, much safer to direct to a woman, parent or not.

Eh? Obviously if you restrict men’s access to women when undressed it reduces their opportunity for voyeurism and sexual assault.

The stats for public changing rooms show this. Despite being a smaller proportion of changing rooms, mixed sexed changing villages enable the highest occurrence of SA and voyeurism by far.

Obviously nothing is infallible but reducing access does reduce the crime. Surely that’s obvious?

And if I say I identify as a pensioner, does the government have to pay me the state pension? Can I enter into over 60s sporting events as a much younger person?

Well that's your choice.

As men are statistically responsible for far more crimes than women, other people make different choices with safeguarding in mind.

I doubt this person will be receiving a warm welcome at his new job. This thread will get picked up or viewed by his mother/ friends. He's done his training so he hopes to get a job.
Yes NB is under the trans umbrella but there are shades of everything. My DDs friend mentioned up thread doesn't wear 'female ' clothes.
Perhaps after seeing this he will resign rather than put themselves through a pile on. I'd be interested to know how the op woukl feel about a bio female indentify as non binary?

who said 'only'?

There was no desire from men to access these spaces, as they had their own and were at no risk in their own. Transgender women have no safe spaces now as no one wants them to darken their doorsteps.

Emotionally blackmailing people to get over their discomfort and prioritise a man’s validation over their safeguarding instincts towards their children is absolutely pathetic.

I don’t care if it makes him sad. He is a man. That is the truth and I won’t be forced to pretend otherwise.

That is your prerogative. I mean statistically, men are FAR more likely to harm your child than women but you have to make your own judgment.

It still doesn’t mean that pretending to a child that some men are not actually men is ok or remotely sensible.

Or perhaps he'd see the benefits of keeping his special pronouns to his circle of family and friends - leaving the six year olds out of it.

They’re men. They can use male facilities.

Perhaps you’d be better served demanding men accept other men in their spaces rather than demanding women accept men in women’s spaces?

Me. Because as all men and transwomen are foaming at the mouth to cause you problems, you couldn't possibly associate with them in any space. People have been raped in more mundane spaces than a women's changing room or toilet.

Have you ever seen any evidence that men who identify as women or ‘non binary’ are not safe in the men’s facilities?