Lily Allen ‘can’t remember’ how many abortions she’s had

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Article in the Fail today about this.
I am pro choice but it did make me a bit uncomfortable. After a while a string of abortions - too many to remember - would surely leave its mark physically and emotionally not mention the cost on the NHS.
Everyone should have a choice but is there not an element of personal responsibility to just take precautions after the first few times?!

Fewer than Boris Johnson?

A whore? Careful there, your misogyny is showing.

So pro-choice but with added judgement when it doesn't suit you? And wth are you reading the Mail? Ewwww to all of this

@TwigletsandRadishes, so, you're not a big Lilly Allen fan there, huh?

Disgusting when people like Allen are using it as s form of contraceptive.
How does an adult woman "accidentally" get pregnant 5 times?

I know, it’s bizarre. The podcast numbers were getting low in recent weeks, if Lily says something controversial, - like a few months ago when she announced she had rehoused their puppy after he chewed up their passports. She knows that The Daily Mail and other outlets and forums will pick up on it, cover it in the sidebar of shame and hey presto, the podcast numbers can double, almost triple,
Therefore she has said something controversial, to boost the podcast, which is doing well and giving her quite a bit of relevance again,- so everyone is a winner.

Only on Mumsnet they seem to think people have been reading her diary or some bullshit. Or they are pretending to, in order to admonish the OP, and/or use the cringe-worthy term ‘Daily Fail’, in order to try and make themselves look superior.

Amazing how many people are pro choice- unless someone makes a choice that they wouldn’t make themselves. Posters on all abortion threads always say ‘I’m pro choice, but….’.

You’ve got the wrong end of the stick there, I was commenting on people getting at the OP for starting the thread, why she cares etc etc.

You've also misquoted. I didn’t mention not knowing about the topic at all. In fact I believe I said that a thread on this topic has been started on the feminism board and that there hadn’t been a fuss in that thread about the OP inviting a conversation on the subject.

I was referring to not knowing about the ‘LA issue’. Paid no attention to any of the posts that were specifically about LA.

So er … not crazy stuff at all really.

'I can't remember' is the correct response from someone who doesn't want to answer a question they should never have been asked in the first place.

Early abortion isn't more dangerous or difficult than 'popping' paracetamol is.

How do men get women accidentally pregnant so many times?

I havent (and wont) read the article. Where they all accidental pregnancies? There are other reasons to have/need abortions.

I was disgusted when I saw the articles popping up on social media, but not at all surprised - that the gutter press jumped at the opportunity to enrage the public over a woman making choices for her own body and life.
Good on Lily and Miquita for sharing their very personal experiences so that other women might feel a little less shame around the subject. They would have known the likes of the daily fail would run wild with it.

Agree with this, we are seeing women being conditioned to become unemotional vessels, detached from their bodies, their sex/sexuality and their feelings - who does that suit I wonder ?

I agree. If people don’t want to discuss it, then don’t..but don’t try to control the narrative. Years ago a friend of mine was told on going for I think the third abortion that she should stop using it as birth control.

I can’t imagine Boris Johnson has had any terminations or pregnancies.

I would class myself as pro-choice, but that's because I assume people are using it in a responsible way, and it is a last resort. Not because they've got pregnant 4 times accidentally, and still don't think they should bother with contraception so go on for a fifth.

No, that would be 'mind your own business.'

She chose to talk about it with her friend to make money from their podcast. She wasn't exactly being given the Spanish Inquisition. And if Miquita did ask the question and it was unwelcome and inappropriate, LA had the option to edit it out.

I agree with you, OP. Of course it’s bloody careless.
She doesn’t come across well generally though, so may court the controversy a bit.

Of course she remembers, she doesn't want to state it as people will come for her whatever the number!

Amazing how many people are pro choice- unless someone makes a choice that they wouldn’t make themselves. Posters on all abortion threads always say ‘I’m pro choice, but….’.

I'm pro- the choice to eat meat. It doesn't mean I don't think animals farmed for food should be compassionately raised and compassionately slaughtered. I'm pro-the choice for women to dress as they choose. It doesn't mean I think it's appropriate to wear nothing but a thong, some nipple tassles and some cowboy boots to your job as an oncologist every day.

Having the freedom and the privilege to make choices shouldn't mean we condone completely shitty choices.

Are you the mumsnet police? You don’t own AIBU. Dont like the thread, don’t read it.

However is she not using abortion as a form
of contraception? In the 21st century it’s really not necessary to need to have multiple abortions. And why does she choose to talk about it?

Absolutely none of our business