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To ask what jobs people secretly (or not so secretly) look down on and why?

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ForBreezySloth · 02/07/2025 19:27

We’re always told “all work is valuable” and I do agree in principle, but if we’re honest, most of us have a job or two we side-eye, even if we don’t say it out loud. Is it how people behave in the role? The pay vs attitude? The ethics of the job itself?

AIBU to think it’s okay to admit we have judgements - as long as we’re willing to examine them?

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blueshoes · 02/07/2025 23:19

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HonkyDonkey · 02/07/2025 23:19

YouWillFindMeInTheGarden · 02/07/2025 22:16

Any WFH jobs

Can I ask why?

If I didn't have the ability to WFH then I wouldn't be able to work and contribute to society at all.

I'd end up stuck at home claiming disability benefits and labelled a scrounger instead.

Ladamesansmerci · 02/07/2025 23:19

The door to door people who sell things like credit cards. Though the side eye is more at the employer tbh, who usually exploits people.

Not me personally, but I think a lot of people look down on jobs like cleaning.

I hardcore judge investment bankers. I definitely hardscore side eye defense lawyers in some instances. It's fresh in my mind as my friend's dad was recently convicted of child sexual abuse, and the defense lawyer argued the victim was promiscuous. She was fucking 11 years old.

I also think a lot of middle management pen pushing type roles are bullshit.

SquishedMallow · 02/07/2025 23:22

yikesnotagain · 02/07/2025 23:00

Well. This is going to be controversial and perhaps ruffle some feathers. And I'd like to clarify that I don't look down on people for actually doing these jobs.

But, I kinda think we've created a society where are are a LOT of "bullshit" jobs out there. Essentially just busywork. Stuff to keep people earning a salary and contributing taxes, but outputs that don't actually make much of a positive contribution to society or the planet. So, doctors, teachers, most tradespeople, scientists, bin men, cleaners, supermarket staff - all examples of absolutely not bullshit jobs. But if someone suddenly eradicated all unnecessary middle management positions, would it make much difference to the planet? What about advertising or marketing for products or services that don't actually significantly improve people's lives (which is probably the majority of things actually)? Or those kinds of corporate roles where, when someone tells you their job title, it just sounds like a bunch of random corporatey buzz words strung together and gives you absolutely no indication what the role actually is?

The idea that being busy and working hard and having a strong work ethic seems like a good thing, but what if all those efforts do nothing to actually serve society or in fact just make things overall slightly worse, or line the pockets of a few more rich old white guys?

This is something I think about a lot. I remember finishing university and suddenly feeling terrified that it was quite likely I was going to end up doing some sort of "bullshit" job for the rest of my working life (so, the younger, fitter, best years), just in order to pay the bills. Do I have a better solution? Nope!

I agree with your post. But just have to point out , please don't repeat the 'old white guys' trope ...

It's used more and more as a self flagellating racist remark from white people to other white people and it's gaining traction. If it's not ok to mention colour if you worked with say a lazy bunch of men that happened to be black - it's not ok to bring up the race of men in certain jobs. The race of businessman has no relevance. The richest men in the world are mostly Asian descent /arab.

Let's not start letting it be acceptable to do a race to the bottom with the acceptability of "old white guy" . Sorry for the rant here,but felt it needed saying.

Aptapt · 02/07/2025 23:22

MindBodySoul · 02/07/2025 19:36

Influencers and reality tv people

This ^

19ptrialprice · 02/07/2025 23:25

Anything admin/office based without seniority. Not important. AI will take over their jobs. Will become unemployed in the next few years. SAHM. You’re not getting paid, it’s not a job.

ForBreezySloth · 02/07/2025 23:25

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mummysmagicmedicine · 02/07/2025 23:25

I say this as a lawyer (not in criminal sector) but criminal defence lawyers. How can one defend a murderer/paedofile etc

Cattenberg · 02/07/2025 23:26

I see it as kind of a supply and demand pyramid. The more potential candidates that can do that job , the less the pay.

Generally, I agree with you, but I think that TV and film actors and TV presenters don't tend to fit this pattern. There's a huge number of people wanting to become either and who are prepared to go to drama school or university to learn their craft. Even if we agree that only a minority have the right aptitude, there are still far more people who could do these jobs than there are vacancies. And yet, they tend to be paid extremely well.

WitchOfSomorrostro · 02/07/2025 23:27

Teachers. Whiny annoying bastards. Usually on a power trip. Overstated importance, massive egos, sticks up their asses. And they don't work nearly as much as they say they do, not even close. My mother has been one for the past 30 years.

Sex workers. Of any kind. Porn, onlyfans, strippers, prostitutes, escorts, sugar-babies, whatever. Both women and men. Gross and shameful, I don't care how much they earn and how 'successful' they are.

WunTooThree · 02/07/2025 23:27

alexalisten · 02/07/2025 23:12

Wtf iv had dealings with some absolutely amazing police officers. We need social workers as their is a significant amount of child abuse that needs stopping

We need both of those roles existing anyway.
If you are a victim of crime, who else will you call?

WunTooThree · 02/07/2025 23:28

HonkyDonkey · 02/07/2025 23:19

Can I ask why?

If I didn't have the ability to WFH then I wouldn't be able to work and contribute to society at all.

I'd end up stuck at home claiming disability benefits and labelled a scrounger instead.

Same for my DP. He is autistic and WFH is perfect for him.

SquishedMallow · 02/07/2025 23:28

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You seem very personally aggrieved by my opinion offered on a thread asking for opinions?

"Hate"? There is no "hate" .

Solicitors exploit people and maximise profit. £40 to type a letter out is reasonable and justifiable is it ? Come on... You know it, I know it. It's profiteering. A charge for even opening an email ? Come on.... That's not profiteering? I'm not actually really judging. It's a slick business idea. Just wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of it.

I'm quite sure that solicitors work hard. I'm quite sure the job is extremely stressful and impacts their whole life. I know it requires skill and dedication. I won't refute that for even a fraction of a second. But come on, let's not play silly buggers here, nobody is doing anything through compassion and what's best for other humans ? It's a money making business and profiteering happens on the back of long winded drawn out proceedings. It's just reality.

SquishedMallow · 02/07/2025 23:30

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No. I'm allowed an opinion thanks very much. You don't get to shut me up. Also, nobody has told me I'm derailing a thread thanks very much !?

blueshoes · 02/07/2025 23:32

SquishedMallow · 02/07/2025 23:28

You seem very personally aggrieved by my opinion offered on a thread asking for opinions?

"Hate"? There is no "hate" .

Solicitors exploit people and maximise profit. £40 to type a letter out is reasonable and justifiable is it ? Come on... You know it, I know it. It's profiteering. A charge for even opening an email ? Come on.... That's not profiteering? I'm not actually really judging. It's a slick business idea. Just wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of it.

I'm quite sure that solicitors work hard. I'm quite sure the job is extremely stressful and impacts their whole life. I know it requires skill and dedication. I won't refute that for even a fraction of a second. But come on, let's not play silly buggers here, nobody is doing anything through compassion and what's best for other humans ? It's a money making business and profiteering happens on the back of long winded drawn out proceedings. It's just reality.

Sigh, you have just shown even more of your ignorance and blinkered thinking. Anyone who resorts to saying 'come on... you know it' isn't quite in possession of the strength of their argument as they think.

I shall leave you to your sweeping statements and unsubstantiated views.

usernamealreadytaken · 02/07/2025 23:32

Dullasfuck · 02/07/2025 19:40

Not look down on as such but I'm mystified why bankers and the like earn so much money when their impact is minimal when other professions which are much worse paid, such as childcare, teachers, cleaners, have a tangible benefit but are paid less.

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Bankers get paid so much because they directly make money. Public workers get paid less because they don’t directly make money, only the potential for other people to make money in future. Most people, with very little training, can be cleaners - most of us do it at home. Very few people could make millions in a day, even with years of training and experience. People who make lots of money get paid lots of money, generally.

TeachesOfPeaches · 02/07/2025 23:33

Management consultant

ForBreezySloth · 02/07/2025 23:33

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SquishedMallow · 02/07/2025 23:34

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Well thats very off. Perhaps you can take a look through my posting on this thread and work out for yourself where I have "de-railed". Blimey. Odd. Very odd.

okydokethen · 02/07/2025 23:35

Traffic wardens, it’s not an honest living, it’s just enabling another incredibly high tax often over a few minutes parking, if no one took the job the world would be a better place. And the poor employees get so much disgusting abuse for it.

I would not want my children to do any form of sex work or work in a church/religious setting.

I worry about the quality of care provided by ‘some’ care and nursery workers - mostly because of my job working with parents where there are child protection concerns for their children but are able to get a job working with vulnerable people, I see it a lot (and report it)

SquishedMallow · 02/07/2025 23:36

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Accusations of "thread derailment" (aka a different opinion) and then telling me to get off the thread is very much a 'personal attack ' (against Mumsnet talk guidelines)

RefreshingMist · 02/07/2025 23:38

@okydokethen I totally disagree re traffic wardens. People park in all kinds of dangerous and obnoxious places.
And parking is a scarce resource in cities so charging is the best way to manage it.

Bluecat7 · 02/07/2025 23:38

‘Fluffy’ jobs that wouldn’t exist is a saner world.

WorriedRelative · 02/07/2025 23:39

SquishedMallow · 02/07/2025 22:59

Tell me a divorce lawyer has never played off a divorcing couple against each other to create more (paid for ) contesting paperwork...? Never wind up an aggrieved spouse ? Play on the heart strings of a father that wants more access to his kids ? A mother that's been cheated on? Tell me that isn't so ?

If you have experienced that report it. We're a highly regulated profession with strict rules around conduct and ethics.

Solicitors are not allowed to run cases for their own benefit. They have a duty to advise their client in their best interests and to act upon the instructions of the client.

These sort of allegations are generally misunderstanding the context.

Also divorce lawyers are a tiny part of the profession.

blueshoes · 02/07/2025 23:40

usernamealreadytaken · 02/07/2025 23:32

Bankers get paid so much because they directly make money. Public workers get paid less because they don’t directly make money, only the potential for other people to make money in future. Most people, with very little training, can be cleaners - most of us do it at home. Very few people could make millions in a day, even with years of training and experience. People who make lots of money get paid lots of money, generally.

I agree with this.

Part of the reason, apart from the fact that you probably have to be quite bright and skillful, have high resilience and exceptional work ethic to be a successful banker, is that bankers are being paid danger money. They could be let go in an instant and it is pretty stressful.

No I am not bringing out the violins for them.