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To ask what jobs people secretly (or not so secretly) look down on and why?

311 replies

ForBreezySloth · 02/07/2025 19:27

We’re always told “all work is valuable” and I do agree in principle, but if we’re honest, most of us have a job or two we side-eye, even if we don’t say it out loud. Is it how people behave in the role? The pay vs attitude? The ethics of the job itself?

AIBU to think it’s okay to admit we have judgements - as long as we’re willing to examine them?

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Burntt · 03/07/2025 00:20

career landlords. I know someone who makes money off people in HMOs, the conditions of the houses are bare minimum to be legal. Always seeking ways to “maximise profit” while “reducing costs”. The tenants who pay insane rents suffer. And because all HMO landlords are seeking profit there is no other options. while he gets a nice big house in a nice area and always extending or doing part of it up. Using his work contractors cheep (I suspect free as put through the books). Flexible hours and minimal effort. He thinks he’s the dogs bollocks and his worth is tied to his money. Looks down on the people who are HMO tenants.

my sons carer lives in an HMO. He works so insanely hard on minimum wage in a very challenging and emotional job. His help has saved my sanity and my family from imploding. When younger I would have looked down on carers as I was raised to see such jobs as easy and jobs for the uneducated. I’m educated and caring for my son alone almost broke me. Carers are fucking saints

TempestTost · 03/07/2025 00:21

19ptrialprice · 03/07/2025 00:07

White men have never in the entirety of history been oppressed by a POC. White men have been oppressed by other white men.

Um, .... what?

Have you never read any history?

Missanimosity · 03/07/2025 00:21

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Nope, you are! Nevermind!

LancashireButterPie · 03/07/2025 00:21

Pastor in an evangelical Church. After one offered to pray for me, because my child is Gay 🤬

Missanimosity · 03/07/2025 00:22

LancashireButterPie · 03/07/2025 00:21

Pastor in an evangelical Church. After one offered to pray for me, because my child is Gay 🤬

Disgusting, did you tell where to shove his bible?

Multiplenames3 · 03/07/2025 00:23

ScrewedByFunding · 02/07/2025 21:18

I was semi expecting this (I'm a childminder) but then was pleasantly surprised when it didn't crop up in the first dew dozen posts.

Then I got to your post and realised, yep! There it is. Cheers!

I spend my day caring and cleaning and cuddling and teaching little ones so their mums and dads can go to work and realise people look down on me for that is charming.

And no I dont believe you yourself dont think it, it's always easy to say 'of course I dont think this, other people do though.'

Of all the things I have ever paid someone to do for me, this is the most important thing ever. Looking after my child and helping them develop. So I think people who work in childcare are amazing - all the people I've met at my daughter's nursery have been.

Missanimosity · 03/07/2025 00:24

Missanimosity · 03/07/2025 00:22

Disgusting, did you tell where to shove his bible?

Although is not the profession, is the human who said that. They are everywhere.

RosesAndHellebores · 03/07/2025 00:25

I respect anyone who does an honest days work. However, I look down on anyone who pierces the ears of babies and children for a living.

TempestTost · 03/07/2025 00:27

blueshoes · 03/07/2025 00:20

It is not necessary to create revenue to be of value. Whilst one can question the motives of companies who have DEI initiatives, it does not mean it does not help to create a more inclusive environment for people who have less of a voice.

I am not as cynical as you.

You asked why companies would manufacture jobs that do not create clear value for the company. You even included regulation.

DEI is an example of how that happens. It does not actually matter if no direct value is created because there has been an expectation of some kind of intangible and often difficult to measure value either generated from within due to cultural ideas, or imposed from without.

It's no accident that these kinds of roles (not just DEI stuff, but also things like safety, for example, or more and more indeirect roles in public organisations, certain types of workplace consultants) have multiplied exponentially over the years as university grads in humanities and social sciences have proliferated.

HonkyDonkey · 03/07/2025 00:27

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Boiledtodeath · 03/07/2025 00:28

Debt collectors and parking wardens. I get it someone’s go to do these jobs or it would be mayhem but you do have to wonder why someone would choose such a job.

19ptrialprice · 03/07/2025 00:30

TempestTost · 03/07/2025 00:21

Um, .... what?

Have you never read any history?

Yeah, I’m sure it’s the POC are ones that kidnapped white people from their homes and forced them to be slaves.

WunTooThree · 03/07/2025 00:31

stayathomer · 03/07/2025 00:13

Yes this is me - footballers for example versus the people who care for us, keep us alive and safe.

Totally this too, I think nurses and caters and all the people who contribute to a hospital enabling people to be helped should be on amazing salaries

They wont though... because they don't make money. Footballers do.

yikesnotagain · 03/07/2025 00:31

SquishedMallow · 02/07/2025 23:46

No. But I think we have to be careful about using race as a negative descriptor. There's no need for "white" to enter the equation. As I say, most of the richest men aren't actually white. If race (whether it be : black, Asian, white) is used as a slur, none are acceptable. It should be a level playing field. But I'll park it there.

So your comment on my post did make me think a bit. But I do respectfully disagree with the accusation that I used race as a "slur" or negative descriptor. Generalisation, perhaps. Maybe I was ageist and sexist too! But the top 14 richest people in the world are in fact white middle-aged to older men (number 15 is actually a rich old white woman, hooray?).

I really don't want to derail the thread further (I don't think OP wanted a debate about white male privilege) when there have been so many interesting and thoughtful perspectives on topic, so going to leave it there I think.

SquishedMallow · 03/07/2025 00:31

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19ptrialprice · 03/07/2025 00:33

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SquishedMallow · 03/07/2025 00:36

yikesnotagain · 03/07/2025 00:31

So your comment on my post did make me think a bit. But I do respectfully disagree with the accusation that I used race as a "slur" or negative descriptor. Generalisation, perhaps. Maybe I was ageist and sexist too! But the top 14 richest people in the world are in fact white middle-aged to older men (number 15 is actually a rich old white woman, hooray?).

I really don't want to derail the thread further (I don't think OP wanted a debate about white male privilege) when there have been so many interesting and thoughtful perspectives on topic, so going to leave it there I think.

Thanks for your respectful reply.

I appreciate your feedback and think you still have very valid points in your original post

I'm not getting at you personally. I've just seen that description "bandied" about a lot on this site and it just makes me 'wince' a little, as I think it gets repeated without remembering that "white" as a slur for rich folk doesn't need to be in there as a descriptor. I personally feel it causes more divisions by race. Anyway, as you rightly say, it's a whole other issue. I can see it wasn't your main point and I appreciate you replying respectfully, so thankyou.

19ptrialprice · 03/07/2025 00:41

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19ptrialprice · 03/07/2025 01:01

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How is saying white a descriptive slur? It’s fact. White Nazis killed millions of Jews. White English men killed millions of Irish people. White American men killed millions of black and indigenous people. White South Africans killed millions black people. I could go on.

OrdinaryMagicOfAcorns · 03/07/2025 02:47

Influencers. Non jobs that the world managed to live with quite happily without until very recently.
Accountants. Yes I know they're very well qualified. But in the main, with a few exceptions, they exist and are paid according to how well they rip the public purse off by enabling private companies and extremely rich individuals to hide their money and avoid taxes (in full accordance with law, I should add). It really annoys me how popular this career appears to be with middle class women.
Any high level bankers/ traders, for similar reasons. Far too much non-money floating around. We urgently need to start valuing real jobs that do real work more.

OrdinaryMagicOfAcorns · 03/07/2025 02:49

And oh yes, landlords. I don't mind 'accidental' landlords or those with just one or two so much, but the more property you own the more you are stealing from working tenants. As someone who was forced into private rentals - no family support, no state support - I frankly hate those who stole my life's productivity and work.

user1492538376 · 03/07/2025 06:01

mummysmagicmedicine · 02/07/2025 23:25

I say this as a lawyer (not in criminal sector) but criminal defence lawyers. How can one defend a murderer/paedofile etc

I’m sure you know this bit everyone - no matter who they are - has the right to a fair trial.

Welliesandtweed · 03/07/2025 06:52

Dullasfuck · 02/07/2025 19:40

Not look down on as such but I'm mystified why bankers and the like earn so much money when their impact is minimal when other professions which are much worse paid, such as childcare, teachers, cleaners, have a tangible benefit but are paid less.

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Skill and demand

RefreshingMist · 03/07/2025 07:15

LancashireButterPie · 03/07/2025 00:15

My ex boyfriend was a junior Dr who worked in his brother's taxi firm in the evening to help it get off the ground. He said the difference in the way people treated him depending on which role he was doing, was a total education.

Yes I took time out from my career to work in a retail type job (for health reasons, I needed to work very part time). It was absolutely eye opening. The exact same people who would have talked to me so respectfully doing my normal job couldn't even treat me as a human. They would carry on talking on their phones, hand money too me that was still mixed with disgusting crumpled up tissue, barely acknowledge my existence. I didn't need us to be besties but just the most basic human politeness would have been nice.