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Still vote Labour?

176 replies

Iwishicouldflyhigh · 02/07/2025 07:27

After one year of Labour rule, if you could go back in time and vote again, would you still vote the same.

i voted Tory, and still would, although I also thought change was good, and I was genuinely excited to get a breath of fresh air in number 10, I had quite high hopes.

im now depressed that we are very probably going to get Reform in 4 years.

would you vote differently?

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User37482 · 02/07/2025 11:39

LarkspurLane · 02/07/2025 11:34

It doesn't really matter how many of these threads are started, it's not going to change things.
There's a lot of support for Labour, they'll see out their term and hopefully make a difference.
I don't think Reform will be around in 3 years, Nigel gets bored quite quickly.

There really isn’t, check the polling figures. Dire.

EasternStandard · 02/07/2025 11:40

User37482 · 02/07/2025 11:39

There really isn’t, check the polling figures. Dire.

Agree. Maybe on here but not generally, the pp needs to look at the polls.

EasternStandard · 02/07/2025 11:41

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 02/07/2025 11:38

Oh yeah, where's that hiding then? Because it's not reflected in voting intentions or favourability ratings, it cannot be seen in a coherent and settled governing party? Is it Mumsnet?

Yes

1dayatatime · 02/07/2025 11:44

@Julen7

"I think the rebels are just loving the power of stopping everything in its tracks, probably not reflecting on the long term consequences for the Labour Party"

To be honest I'm much more concerned about the long term consequences of the actions of the rebel MPs on the economy than on the Labour Party.

But for the rebel MPs it doesn't matter what happens in the long term to the UK or the UK economy. What matters to them is personally getting re elected in 2029.

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 02/07/2025 11:44

EasternStandard · 02/07/2025 11:41

Yes

Even here, there are fewer and fewer supporters willing to support the party line, knowing they could have egg on their face a week later when the party u-turns.

LarkspurLane · 02/07/2025 11:45

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 02/07/2025 11:38

Oh yeah, where's that hiding then? Because it's not reflected in voting intentions or favourability ratings, it cannot be seen in a coherent and settled governing party? Is it Mumsnet?

How do you see the government falling?
A coup?
Or a forced early election?

EasternStandard · 02/07/2025 11:46

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 02/07/2025 11:44

Even here, there are fewer and fewer supporters willing to support the party line, knowing they could have egg on their face a week later when the party u-turns.

Idk reading posts today and many are sticking to it.

Hopefully a few are realising.

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 02/07/2025 11:46

1dayatatime · 02/07/2025 11:44

@Julen7

"I think the rebels are just loving the power of stopping everything in its tracks, probably not reflecting on the long term consequences for the Labour Party"

To be honest I'm much more concerned about the long term consequences of the actions of the rebel MPs on the economy than on the Labour Party.

But for the rebel MPs it doesn't matter what happens in the long term to the UK or the UK economy. What matters to them is personally getting re elected in 2029.

Apparently the party whips were threatening to have them pulled from their seat in the next g.e. Pretty desperate a year in. Better to be hung for a sheep than a lamb, I suppose.

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 02/07/2025 11:47

LarkspurLane · 02/07/2025 11:45

How do you see the government falling?
A coup?
Or a forced early election?

I didn't say that the government would collapse, just that there is precious little support. Have you read something I didn't write?

BobbieTables · 02/07/2025 11:51

I voted green, knowing our Labour MP would get in.

I'd never vote reform, far right populism is extremely worrying.

I think Labour have been doing okay, it mostly feels like the grown ups are in charge, but was really perturbed by the 'island of strangers' stuff.

I have never considered voting Tory but if they moved to the left and more green (Rory Stewart, Jo Johnson, Zach Goldsmith, type people) and it was to keep reform out I would now consider it.

LarkspurLane · 02/07/2025 11:51

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 02/07/2025 11:47

I didn't say that the government would collapse, just that there is precious little support. Have you read something I didn't write?

Yes, sorry, loads of people on other threads think the government will fall.

I was just wondering how they thought that would play out.

MikeRafone · 02/07/2025 11:52

I’d go back and vote Labour, they are boring, and have implemented some decent policies

not happy about all the leaning to the right but overall getting the far right out of go is a plus

the reform cllrs are making some very big mistakes but whether reform voters will realise is another matter / flag gate has been exasperating

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 02/07/2025 11:53

MikeRafone · 02/07/2025 11:52

I’d go back and vote Labour, they are boring, and have implemented some decent policies

not happy about all the leaning to the right but overall getting the far right out of go is a plus

the reform cllrs are making some very big mistakes but whether reform voters will realise is another matter / flag gate has been exasperating

Oh yeah, which ones? I'm struggling to think of one that hasn't been revoked, abandoned (1.5million houses, anyone? 🤷🏼‍♀️) or hasn't crippled businesses?

ScholesPanda · 02/07/2025 12:00

I will still vote Labour. I didn't have the high hopes some had- there are deep seated issues in this country that aren't easily solved, and I knew Labour would have to make unpopular decisions.

I do think the country is becoming ungovernable- people take every policy change as a personal attack and expect policy making for 66M people to take account of everyone's personal circumstances. I don't think there is a shared vision of the common good anymore.

We'll probably get Reform next time, whatever goes wrong in their government they'll just find a scapegoat - maybe that's how politics will operate from now on.

Julen7 · 02/07/2025 12:29

1dayatatime · 02/07/2025 11:44

@Julen7

"I think the rebels are just loving the power of stopping everything in its tracks, probably not reflecting on the long term consequences for the Labour Party"

To be honest I'm much more concerned about the long term consequences of the actions of the rebel MPs on the economy than on the Labour Party.

But for the rebel MPs it doesn't matter what happens in the long term to the UK or the UK economy. What matters to them is personally getting re elected in 2029.

Yes I am more concerned about the long term actions of the rebels on the economy than the party too - (actually couldn’t care less about the party) - but the point I trying to make in a not very succinct way was wouldn’t these rebel MPs rather be in power than opposition?

NoelFaraday · 02/07/2025 12:38

Posted on wrong thread

Whatafustercluck · 02/07/2025 13:00

What were people genuinely expecting after one year? And after 14 years of shit show? The UK has no money, but its people want things fixing. Robbing Peter to pay Paul is pretty much how this was always going to pan out, because this is real world politics and not the fairytale people expect. Shoring up the economy first and foremost isn't the exciting 'free everything, for everyone' kind of change that people wanted to see - immediately. But then neither did Labour promise that pre-election.

It's entirely predictable that the same people who said they want their politicians to be honest and unafraid to review or reverse unfair decisions are the same ones who are now shouting "but they're so weak and indecisive!"

Starmer isn't a grinning, lying, vacuous salesman-like prime minister like Johnson (thank fuck). He's a safe pair of hands on the world stage, which is exactly what the UK needs at the moment.

He pisses off the right for being too leftie woke. He pisses off the left for not being Jeremy Corbyn. So he's probably got the balance about right.

Absolutely, if I went back in time I'd vote for them again. Would I vote for them in 4 more years? I'll judge their performance at the end of their term, not on the first 12 months in office.

Purplebunnie · 02/07/2025 13:08

Never voted Labour, never will except I might have voted if John Smith hadn't died - man of integrity that we haven't seen for a long time now

Used to vote Tory but haven't for quite a while, will never vote while Kemi is in charge and the Tories are going to have to go a long way to get me back on board

I'm in a political desert, will never vote Reform so that leaves me with parties who I cannot see ever getting into power

Terrible state of affairs

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 02/07/2025 13:11

Whatafustercluck · 02/07/2025 13:00

What were people genuinely expecting after one year? And after 14 years of shit show? The UK has no money, but its people want things fixing. Robbing Peter to pay Paul is pretty much how this was always going to pan out, because this is real world politics and not the fairytale people expect. Shoring up the economy first and foremost isn't the exciting 'free everything, for everyone' kind of change that people wanted to see - immediately. But then neither did Labour promise that pre-election.

It's entirely predictable that the same people who said they want their politicians to be honest and unafraid to review or reverse unfair decisions are the same ones who are now shouting "but they're so weak and indecisive!"

Starmer isn't a grinning, lying, vacuous salesman-like prime minister like Johnson (thank fuck). He's a safe pair of hands on the world stage, which is exactly what the UK needs at the moment.

He pisses off the right for being too leftie woke. He pisses off the left for not being Jeremy Corbyn. So he's probably got the balance about right.

Absolutely, if I went back in time I'd vote for them again. Would I vote for them in 4 more years? I'll judge their performance at the end of their term, not on the first 12 months in office.

Things are so bad that Reeves is literally crying in the front bench. I mean, I'm going to say, something more inspiring than that.

EasternStandard · 02/07/2025 13:12

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 02/07/2025 13:11

Things are so bad that Reeves is literally crying in the front bench. I mean, I'm going to say, something more inspiring than that.

Even the chancellor can see it.

TonTonMacoute · 02/07/2025 13:18

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 02/07/2025 11:53

Oh yeah, which ones? I'm struggling to think of one that hasn't been revoked, abandoned (1.5million houses, anyone? 🤷🏼‍♀️) or hasn't crippled businesses?

Well quite!

The change in Non Dom status was going to raise £30 billion in tax, we were told. Now, the forecast is it will cost £12 billion in lost tax revenue because so many have left the country.

VAT on school fees was going to raise £2 billion we were told. Now forecasts predict it will cost the taxpayers £2 billion because far more pupils have switched into state schools than was thought.

The Welfare Bill was not only intended to cut costs, it was supposed to help people back into work. Nobody prepared a study to show how this would be done or how many people would gain employment as a result. A key aim of the policy was to boost employment and no one at the top bothered to work out the numbers?

Net Zero is not going to slash energy bills, it's already massively increased them and they are still set to rise to pay for new infrastructure.

These aren't teething problems following 14 years of mismanagement, this shows a fundamental ignorance of how to run a small business, let alone a developed economy.

Lottapianos · 02/07/2025 14:16

'Things are so bad that Reeves is literally crying in the front bench'

The official line is that she has some difficult personal stuff going on. Whatever the reason, I really feel for her. I've been in tears at work but haven't had to sit in front of hundreds of colleagues and the media with tears running down my face

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 02/07/2025 14:17

Give over, nobody is falling for that. If she makes it to the summer break I'd be amazed.

EasternStandard · 02/07/2025 14:24

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 02/07/2025 14:17

Give over, nobody is falling for that. If she makes it to the summer break I'd be amazed.

It’s such a bad excuse, more gaslighting from Labour.

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