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Child left in car in 35 degree heat

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Empress13 · 01/07/2025 21:54

Please tell me as I’m struggling to understand How the hell you could forget you have left a child in a car in such extreme heat. Unbelievable ! that poor child

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FishfingerFlinger · 02/07/2025 09:45

Kubricklayer · 02/07/2025 09:11

I'm another one struggling to understand how this happens but I suppose it depends on your approach.

For example, a some parents probably have the baby in the rear seat opposite the driver side. That way thay can use peripherals and mirrors to periodically glance and monitor the baby. The same parent will probably chat away to their baby constantly (even whilst baby is napping). Under those conditions it doesn't seem plausible you could forget the baby was there.

In contrast other parents will put their baby in a car seat directly behind the driver seat, fire up the radio and drive on autopilot in their headspace treating the journey as a small period of downtime. Under those circumstances it's easier to imagine someone forgetting their child.

I still don't find it excusable, tired or not tired.

Oh well done you for your superior parenting.

Despite having the set up you described, often singing to the baby in the car, not infrequently actually stopping the car so I can lean over and verify the baby is still breathing if they fell asleep unexpectedly….i can still absolute imagine circumstances in which this could happen, or that I could do it myself. It only takes one lapse.

G5000 · 02/07/2025 09:47

Gymmum82 · 02/07/2025 09:43

I left my 6 day old baby at Asda checkouts. Totally forgot in my sleep deprived state I even had a baby at that point.
Also forgot to pick my kids up from school. Distracted by a task at home and the time slipped away. Easily done

according to some posters here, this is not possible and you simply wanted to get rid of your baby. I mean really. At least should have left them at Waitrose..

OneSpoonyGreyWasp · 02/07/2025 09:52

It’s mostly dumb ass dads. Sorry to say but they are less vigilant

Daftypants · 02/07/2025 09:59

I lived in Australia for a few years .
I had dropped all my 3 children off at their schools and kindy and was having an early morning coffee at a cafe sat outdoors ( mid winter is fairly mild weather there but often sunny ) I noticed that there was a car parked right outside on the street and I looked again and saw a small toddler in there asleep and the windows were closed .
i thought that perhaps the mum / dad / carer / relative had dashed in for a take out coffee so i went inside the cafe and asked whose car it was and that there was a small child inside .
No one knew so one of the staff members and I went into each shop in the very small mall ( had a few stores ) and loudly asked whose car and child this was and that we would need to take action.
The child’s mother was shopping for clothes claimed she had only been 10 minutes ( not true ) and hadn’t wanted to wake him as he’d fallen asleep in the car !!!!!! the cafe staff were absolutely furious 😡 as was I .
She started off on a “ well what would you all know you don’t have children , you can’t go shopping with them “

AngelinaFibres · 02/07/2025 10:01

8isgreat · 01/07/2025 22:33

It happens, people are distracted and it’s usually when there’s a change in childcare routine.
Unfortunately, in hot climates a small child doesn’t stand a chance and would die within a short space of time and although not frequent where I live you do hear about cases every few years.
There is some sort of car technology designed to prevent this from happening, but it will be a long time before it’s standard.

I have a Hyundai Kona. It doesn't matter whether you have a grandchild in the back, or just a carrier bag on the seat, when you switch off the engine it flashes up a warning triangle ,'bings' and the screen says " check the back seats". Very useful.

dynamiccactus · 02/07/2025 10:09

Even if you don't think it could happen to you, if you get into the habit of always checking, you won't make the mistake.

It's like when I get off a train I always check the seat I was occupying to make sure I've not left anything there, even though I "know" I haven't. A quick check might mean avoiding a load of hassle - or a tragedy. When my son first got old enough to go into changing rooms on his own I told him to always check the area around where he was changing before he left so he wouldn't leave a shoe behind or similar.

I always check my car to make sure nothing valuable is on show even though I know it isn't too. And I double check it's locked.

Get into the habit. It take seconds.

Solaire18381 · 02/07/2025 10:10

Hard to imagine.

I wish nurseries would text/call a parent to confirm why their DC hasn't arrived in nursery today, on hot days. Maybe some do but it's not standard practise.

Kubricklayer · 02/07/2025 10:10

FishfingerFlinger · 02/07/2025 09:45

Oh well done you for your superior parenting.

Despite having the set up you described, often singing to the baby in the car, not infrequently actually stopping the car so I can lean over and verify the baby is still breathing if they fell asleep unexpectedly….i can still absolute imagine circumstances in which this could happen, or that I could do it myself. It only takes one lapse.

It's hardly superior parenting to remember you have a child in your care that you're responsible for? It's the absolute baseline minimum of what is expected.

cloudyblueglass · 02/07/2025 10:14

Kubricklayer · 02/07/2025 10:10

It's hardly superior parenting to remember you have a child in your care that you're responsible for? It's the absolute baseline minimum of what is expected.

It’s superior to truly believe that you couldn’t possibly (and have never) had your brain go into autopilot.

Perhaps you’d like to offer yourself up to the neuroscience community so they can study your superior brain that has evolved past the normal human brain? You could save lives!

Needspaceforlego · 02/07/2025 10:20

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 02/07/2025 05:43

I don't believe he forgot. I think it's more likely he was scrimping on childcare and left the child in the car.

I don't believe any of these were cases where anyone forgot the child was there. When you lock the car the back seats are visible. Even the tiniest child will be visible. The mistake was thinking they would get away with it, not forgetting the child was there.

Sorry most of these cases the parent has forgotten to drop the child off, the nursery place needs to be paid regardless if the child is there or not. Change of routine and autopilot.

Nobody would deliberately leave a young child in a car all day, no food, no water, no nappy changing and thats before you consider the heat to try and save money.

FishfingerFlinger · 02/07/2025 10:26

dynamiccactus · 02/07/2025 10:09

Even if you don't think it could happen to you, if you get into the habit of always checking, you won't make the mistake.

It's like when I get off a train I always check the seat I was occupying to make sure I've not left anything there, even though I "know" I haven't. A quick check might mean avoiding a load of hassle - or a tragedy. When my son first got old enough to go into changing rooms on his own I told him to always check the area around where he was changing before he left so he wouldn't leave a shoe behind or similar.

I always check my car to make sure nothing valuable is on show even though I know it isn't too. And I double check it's locked.

Get into the habit. It take seconds.

i do a quick train seat check too. Didnt help me this very morning when I was unusually carrying a large item which I placed on the overhead shelves. Which I repeatedly thought “must remember” during the journey. And I still managed to go onto auto-pilot and forget the damn thing when I left the train didnt I? My automatic check the seat reflex didnt extend to the shelves because I almost never put anything on the shelf.

(fortunately I was at the terminus so managed to run back and retrieve it)

Kubricklayer · 02/07/2025 10:43

cloudyblueglass · 02/07/2025 10:14

It’s superior to truly believe that you couldn’t possibly (and have never) had your brain go into autopilot.

Perhaps you’d like to offer yourself up to the neuroscience community so they can study your superior brain that has evolved past the normal human brain? You could save lives!

My brain has gone into autopilot thousands of times. Never once has it gone into autopilot to the extent I forgot my basic parenting responsibilities.

No parents aren't infallible. We've all seen our DC take the odd tumble etc and chastised ourselves for not anticipating it. Doesn't make us bad parents.

However, that's worlds apart from forgetting you have a DC with you and leaving them unattended in a car for a prolonged period. That is bad parenting and shouldn't be excused or brushed off as 'it happens, she/he was on autpilot'. Stop making excuses for shit parenting.

It was an accident, the parent will be forever tormented, but nonetheless careless and shit parenting.

Kubricklayer · 02/07/2025 10:48

I guess I was wrong all these years in thinking Home Alone was far fetched. How could Kevin's parents not, at the very least, check their own kids were present and accounted for in the taxis/airport? It's ok though they were tired from the early start, in a rush and on autopilot!

cloudyblueglass · 02/07/2025 10:51

Kubricklayer · 02/07/2025 10:43

My brain has gone into autopilot thousands of times. Never once has it gone into autopilot to the extent I forgot my basic parenting responsibilities.

No parents aren't infallible. We've all seen our DC take the odd tumble etc and chastised ourselves for not anticipating it. Doesn't make us bad parents.

However, that's worlds apart from forgetting you have a DC with you and leaving them unattended in a car for a prolonged period. That is bad parenting and shouldn't be excused or brushed off as 'it happens, she/he was on autpilot'. Stop making excuses for shit parenting.

It was an accident, the parent will be forever tormented, but nonetheless careless and shit parenting.

Explaining how this happens isn’t excusing anything. Accidents happen - humans are not God (though you seem to think that you are).

People who have had this happen are in enough of a world of unimaginable hell and torment without vile God-like creatures pointing their fingers and claiming to be superior.

Needspaceforlego · 02/07/2025 10:51

Solaire18381 · 02/07/2025 10:10

Hard to imagine.

I wish nurseries would text/call a parent to confirm why their DC hasn't arrived in nursery today, on hot days. Maybe some do but it's not standard practise.

Where are you?
I'm Scotland and it's standard practice for nurseries to call and ask about a child if they don't turn up or you don't phone them.

Someone got uppity on MN the other when their nursery called they questioned was nursery checking up on them, was it normal.

Needspaceforlego · 02/07/2025 11:03

Kubricklayer · 02/07/2025 10:48

I guess I was wrong all these years in thinking Home Alone was far fetched. How could Kevin's parents not, at the very least, check their own kids were present and accounted for in the taxis/airport? It's ok though they were tired from the early start, in a rush and on autopilot!

Edited

Totally different scenario.
Kevin should have been with the parents.

Children who are forgotten about should normally be at daycare, not with the parents, the parents think they are safely being looked after by other people.

I really want to know how many near misses are there every year when parents remember at the last minute or in colder climates finish work and get back to the car to find a cold, hungry child.
But reality is nobody is recording the near misses we only hear of the tragic cases that make the international news.

Solaire18381 · 02/07/2025 11:09

@Needspaceforlego that's really good that they do that. Northern England. Mine are at school now so maybe the practise has changed. But I recall on a couple of days when DC was off sick and DH forgot/didn't get around telling nursery for a few hours, no one checked up. In that space of time, in different circumstances it could have been too late!

Kubricklayer · 02/07/2025 11:17

cloudyblueglass · 02/07/2025 10:51

Explaining how this happens isn’t excusing anything. Accidents happen - humans are not God (though you seem to think that you are).

People who have had this happen are in enough of a world of unimaginable hell and torment without vile God-like creatures pointing their fingers and claiming to be superior.

Ah ok, so we should all adopt the opinion of shrugging our shoulders and saying 'accidents happen'? Got it. And it's vile to hold the opinion that accidentally being neglectful to the point a child dies is inexcusable? Ah, ok.

cloudyblueglass · 02/07/2025 11:28

Kubricklayer · 02/07/2025 11:17

Ah ok, so we should all adopt the opinion of shrugging our shoulders and saying 'accidents happen'? Got it. And it's vile to hold the opinion that accidentally being neglectful to the point a child dies is inexcusable? Ah, ok.

You’re doing a whole lot of imagining and assuming there.

It’s fairly obvious to rational and reasonable posters that terrible accidents happen and that piling on the judgment and superiority is abhorrent.

The Mighty frequently end up finding out just how much of a drop it is from their self-made pedestals.

JudgeJ · 02/07/2025 11:28

Him slamming the car door would have woken the child if he’d been asleep surely ?

Not at all, when my first baby was about a month old she didn't stir when a VC10 aircraft landed within 75 yards of us, turned and taxied to the terminal but when the little bell by the barrier rang to warn of the barrier lifting she woke up and howled!

Needspaceforlego · 02/07/2025 11:31

@Kubricklayer do you not think the parents of these poor children have enough to deal with, without other people putting the boot in? Most of us feel for the parents to.

God only knows how anyone gets on with their life after such an accident. How do you face family and friends?
A high percentage of parents end up divorcing after a child death in normal circumstances never mind in circumstances where a parent has forgotten about the child.

What would you like to see happen?

BernardButlersBra · 02/07/2025 11:42

Stupidity. I have 2 young children and never done, never even come close. Serves them right they need to live with on their conscience.

Spoonspreader · 02/07/2025 11:45

BernardButlersBra · 02/07/2025 11:42

Stupidity. I have 2 young children and never done, never even come close. Serves them right they need to live with on their conscience.

Can you not even see that this is a ‘there but for the grace of god…’ situation.
Your kids are young-you still have plenty of time to make mistakes. I doubt they will be tragic but they will happen.

Kubricklayer · 02/07/2025 11:49

Needspaceforlego · 02/07/2025 11:31

@Kubricklayer do you not think the parents of these poor children have enough to deal with, without other people putting the boot in? Most of us feel for the parents to.

God only knows how anyone gets on with their life after such an accident. How do you face family and friends?
A high percentage of parents end up divorcing after a child death in normal circumstances never mind in circumstances where a parent has forgotten about the child.

What would you like to see happen?

Expressing an opinion on an anonymous forum is hardly putting the boot in. Reading a mixture of views and opinions on the topic is more likely to make someone in a similar situation think twice, check twice. Compared to reading a sea of unanimous opinions of 'accidents happen' that reassures and breeds complacency.

booksnbaking · 02/07/2025 12:07

If anyone hasn’t read that WaPo article linked to at the start, here’s an archive link, no registration required. It’s very much not easy reading, but explains in great detail how something like this can happen.
Article “Fatal Distraction”