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Pram left overnight in the garden!

282 replies

dontcomeatme · 30/06/2025 08:24

Definetly not "end of the world" stuff, but I got quite angry about this.
We have a double buggy that doesn't fit through our front door so needs to be built up outside every time we want to go out, not an issue. Monday mornings are nursery run mornings, I need to get the 7:20am bus. DW always at work. We're both females.
She was sorting jobs out last night while I got the baby settled for sleep. She came upstairs and told me she had built the pram up and just left it in the garden! We have never done that before and I don't like the idea of it. She said it wasn't going to rain so didn't see the issue. Problem is we saw a rat in the garden last week and after speaking with the neighbours turns out that 3 doors down have a rat problem.
I didn't shout at her but I did irritably tell her to go and get the pram in the house because I didn't want rats touching it and she said I was being absolutely ridiculous.
So..
YABU - Leaving the pram outside (weather approving) clearly saves time.
YANBU - Rats carry diseases and its not safe to leave it out.
And would you leave a pram outside at all regardless of the rats?

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Aseveritisme · 30/06/2025 17:28

And have the pair of you made up since this morning’s drama?!

Sunshineshowers2 · 30/06/2025 17:54

BrickBiscuit · 30/06/2025 13:46

Probably not at three months old when their immune response to infection is not developed sufficiently to withstand animal urine (if you have a responsible, informed parent that is).

grass?? At what age would you allow a baby to touch grass? 🤯🤯😂

dontcomeatme · 30/06/2025 18:04

Aseveritisme · 30/06/2025 17:26

Tell me to butt out, really, but in fascinated… did she have your first baby and take maternity leave?

No @AseveritismeI've carried both our DC. She has a short cervix and only 1 ovary due to health issues so she really didn't want to carry them x

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LoopyLoo1991 · 30/06/2025 20:12

Left my big new recycling carrier outside by communal industrial dumpster ,for 2 minutes while I was sorting a leak in my small food waste bin.

Stolen. Despite it being 2am and no one about 🤦
£41 down the drain. Housing association make similar containers mandatory due to black sacks leaking & ruining carpets in communal corridors.
Never leave anything outside or unattended. Some **er will always want to nick stuff that isn't bolted down.
Even chained up bikes are risky: 17 stolen from local civic centre and loaded onto a truck in under ten minutes. Security watched but thought they were official council workers 🤯

BrickBiscuit · 30/06/2025 20:54

Sunshineshowers2 · 30/06/2025 17:54

grass?? At what age would you allow a baby to touch grass? 🤯🤯😂

Not within the first month of life, with caution up to three months, then with normal hygiene precautions after that.

BrickBiscuit · 30/06/2025 20:58

dontcomeatme · 30/06/2025 13:58

@limescaleand @BrickBiscuit thank you 😊

I'm with you on the rat-pram issue, and also the driving thing - I gave up my car decades ago and just share those of other family members when necessary. However 80% of my personal travel distance is on foot or public transport.

dontcomeatme · 30/06/2025 22:32

Aseveritisme · 30/06/2025 17:28

And have the pair of you made up since this morning’s drama?!

Yes 🤣 we always do haha

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Sunshineshowers2 · 30/06/2025 22:33

BrickBiscuit · 30/06/2025 20:54

Not within the first month of life, with caution up to three months, then with normal hygiene precautions after that.

You need precautions to touch grass?

dontcomeatme · 30/06/2025 22:34

BrickBiscuit · 30/06/2025 20:58

I'm with you on the rat-pram issue, and also the driving thing - I gave up my car decades ago and just share those of other family members when necessary. However 80% of my personal travel distance is on foot or public transport.

I honestly don't understand mumsnet huge issue with none drivers, it actually baffles me. Maybe that's the AIBU thread we need 😅

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Firstsipofcoffee · 01/07/2025 05:38

dontcomeatme · 30/06/2025 22:34

I honestly don't understand mumsnet huge issue with none drivers, it actually baffles me. Maybe that's the AIBU thread we need 😅

Be sure many of us are drivers
and
And know how it can be a pain being the sole driver for a family, especially when your kids get older and have multiple sports clubs and friends in far flung villages and towns!

dontcomeatme · 01/07/2025 06:26

Firstsipofcoffee · 01/07/2025 05:38

Be sure many of us are drivers
and
And know how it can be a pain being the sole driver for a family, especially when your kids get older and have multiple sports clubs and friends in far flung villages and towns!

My DC can get the bus to their friends/clubs or they won't be able to go. I dont think parents should always give lifts anyway, it doesn't foster independence. My parents didn't drive when I was younger and I learnt how to get about on my own. They learnt to drive and then had my sister, who got taxied about all her life and now can't function without a lift of some sort. There's pros and cons to both but it shouldn't be "all none drivers are bad and people who drive are the best".

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Firstsipofcoffee · 01/07/2025 06:29

dontcomeatme · 01/07/2025 06:26

My DC can get the bus to their friends/clubs or they won't be able to go. I dont think parents should always give lifts anyway, it doesn't foster independence. My parents didn't drive when I was younger and I learnt how to get about on my own. They learnt to drive and then had my sister, who got taxied about all her life and now can't function without a lift of some sort. There's pros and cons to both but it shouldn't be "all none drivers are bad and people who drive are the best".

You asked why quite a few had an issue with non drivers
I gave a reason why some of us do

And that’s awesome you live somewhere with great transport links

dontcomeatme · 01/07/2025 07:15

Firstsipofcoffee · 01/07/2025 06:29

You asked why quite a few had an issue with non drivers
I gave a reason why some of us do

And that’s awesome you live somewhere with great transport links

Thanks it does make sense. Especially the threads where people say they live an hour away from everything and the bus only comes once a day 😅 we live pretty much in the city centre and everything is accessible by the bus or metro. Really easy to navigate to be fair x

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Firstsipofcoffee · 01/07/2025 07:28

Often, even if you live centrally, friends of your children and teens… don’t

dontcomeatme · 01/07/2025 07:49

Firstsipofcoffee · 01/07/2025 07:28

Often, even if you live centrally, friends of your children and teens… don’t

They will have to find a bus route for that friend. But anywhere within 1 hour or even 2 hours round here is easy to travel between. And I doubt their friends from school would live that far away, they wouldn't be going to our local school if that was the case.

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Heronwatcher · 01/07/2025 07:50

Firstsipofcoffee · 01/07/2025 07:28

Often, even if you live centrally, friends of your children and teens… don’t

Only if you’re rural or in a small town with outlying villages.

In a big city most friends do live close by or if not a very easy journey on the tube/ metro. For example if you live in SW London and go to school there 90% of friends will be within half an hour of the school by public transport, most walking distance or a couple of tube stops. You’re not going to be haring out to Surrey every weekend because kids from Surrey are unlikely to be coming into London to go to school. And even if there are a few they’ll likely come into London to socialise anyway. Same with most cities.

I think people who haven’t lived/ raised kids in a city just can’t comprehend how different it is- genuinely the vast majority of times it’s easier not to drive. Plus city kids are experts at public transport by the time they go to secondary school in most cases.

Sharptonguedwoman · 01/07/2025 07:52

Coffeeishot · 30/06/2025 08:38

Get in touch with an exterminator today. Clean the pram and get on with your day,

This, really. Antiseptic spray the pram down and put a cover over it if it's outside.

dontcomeatme · 01/07/2025 07:55

Heronwatcher · 01/07/2025 07:50

Only if you’re rural or in a small town with outlying villages.

In a big city most friends do live close by or if not a very easy journey on the tube/ metro. For example if you live in SW London and go to school there 90% of friends will be within half an hour of the school by public transport, most walking distance or a couple of tube stops. You’re not going to be haring out to Surrey every weekend because kids from Surrey are unlikely to be coming into London to go to school. And even if there are a few they’ll likely come into London to socialise anyway. Same with most cities.

I think people who haven’t lived/ raised kids in a city just can’t comprehend how different it is- genuinely the vast majority of times it’s easier not to drive. Plus city kids are experts at public transport by the time they go to secondary school in most cases.

Exactly this. The kids round here are pros at getting themselves to and from, it's so easy x

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BrickBiscuit · 01/07/2025 08:19

Sunshineshowers2 · 30/06/2025 22:33

You need precautions to touch grass?

You don't ever wash your hands?

Firstsipofcoffee · 01/07/2025 08:34

dontcomeatme · 01/07/2025 07:49

They will have to find a bus route for that friend. But anywhere within 1 hour or even 2 hours round here is easy to travel between. And I doubt their friends from school would live that far away, they wouldn't be going to our local school if that was the case.

Well presumably your DW will sometimes drive them to friends and clubs that aren’t easily able to get to?! I hope anyway

if its a very good school, trust me… there friends will be spread out! Get them in to the school, wait a couple of years… move out so you get more bang for your buck!

all I was trying to do was enlighten you as to why some have a problem with their partner being a non driver

Firstsipofcoffee · 01/07/2025 08:37

Are you happy sitting out in the garden out of interest? Toddler playing on the grass? Paddling pool out? Garden picnics? When mine was this age, we spent 50% of time in garden in the summer. Most lunches were picnics in the garden.

Firstsipofcoffee · 01/07/2025 08:39

It was weird but I always found my newborn / baby was happier outside if a bit unsettled. She / he would be crying or unsettled… I’d fling open the garden door, walk out and…. Hallelujah!

Jk987 · 01/07/2025 08:58

I could not deal with the faff of assembling a buggy every morning! Leaving it outside with a protective cover chucked over it is far better.

dontcomeatme · 01/07/2025 09:04

Firstsipofcoffee · 01/07/2025 08:34

Well presumably your DW will sometimes drive them to friends and clubs that aren’t easily able to get to?! I hope anyway

if its a very good school, trust me… there friends will be spread out! Get them in to the school, wait a couple of years… move out so you get more bang for your buck!

all I was trying to do was enlighten you as to why some have a problem with their partner being a non driver

No I totally understand your point. But we must live in separate type areas. Even if his friend moves to another city, its still only a bus journey. Where we live all the little towns and city's are 10 minutes from each other. Even further ones, not hard to red the buses come every 20 mins. Plus the metro.
My DW leaves the house at 5:30am and gets home about 6pm. Only has 2 days off. She doesn't ferry the kids about. Her and DS go swimming together every Saturday that's her thing, this is the only place they drive to 🤷🏻‍♀️

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dontcomeatme · 01/07/2025 09:06

Firstsipofcoffee · 01/07/2025 08:37

Are you happy sitting out in the garden out of interest? Toddler playing on the grass? Paddling pool out? Garden picnics? When mine was this age, we spent 50% of time in garden in the summer. Most lunches were picnics in the garden.

Yep. This is how we live too. But considering I only saw and learnt about the rat issue last week we have been a bit more cautious about food in the gardens and making sure any of the 13 week old stuff doesn't stay out there in case of diseases 🤷🏻‍♀️

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