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Why do we still have so many apostrophes in English?

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Boliviabae · 27/06/2025 19:35

It takes so much longer to type anything on the phone.

Apostrophe's were originally in place to show two words shortened into one. But the shortened versions of the words have been in the English langauge for so long now, why do we need the apostrophes.

The word 'Dont' for example, is easily understandable, without an apostrophe.

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steff13 · 27/06/2025 22:20

murasaki · 27/06/2025 21:17

Exactly, so it should always be 10 items or fewer in the supermarket. And it never is.

I always think if this song when I see that at the grocery.

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Doitrightnow · 27/06/2025 22:22

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Doitrightnow · 27/06/2025 22:24

Lioncub2020 · 27/06/2025 20:43

I feel the same about the u that follow a q. There is always one so why don't we all agree that q is pronounced like qu then we will save letters. Qestion, Qest,

Because that would completely change the pronunciation of Qatar and make Scrabble too easy.

Maxorias · 27/06/2025 22:26

I don't think dumbing down the language is a good way forward.

Yes, languages evolve. They generally do so naturally and organically, not because someone somewhere decides that from now on we must all do this or that.

I enjoy reading a lot. I would not read a book filled with spelling/grammar mistakes because, while I'd probably still be able to piece together the meaning, it would be an unpleasant read. In the same way, a meal with too much salt will sate your hunger just as well as a meal without, but it will not be enjoyable.

I also think that the use of precise language is important. There are reasons why languages evolve a certain way and not others. Clearly if the english language has retained the use of apostrophes for centuries - including in times where an extra caracter was much, much more of a pain to include than nowadays - we can infer that generations past thought it was important.

As for the rest of the thread...

People were rude to jump on you for a single mistake.
You were at least as rude in your responses to them (calling someone "pet" is incredibly condescending).
And we should keep the apostrophes.

suburburban · 27/06/2025 22:30

I still use apostrophes for things like in two years’ time, as that’s how I was taught and ‘phone

Denimrules · 27/06/2025 22:32

AuditAngel · 27/06/2025 19:46

Apostrophes can also be used to indicate possession.

Were and We’re are not the same.

Leave our apostrophes alone!

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Sharptonguedwoman · 27/06/2025 22:42

Boliviabae · 27/06/2025 19:45

It was a long time ago.

Languages evolve. Apostrophes are inconvenient, and add time to typing

I don't think that any other language uses apostrophes, as much as English does.

French? Lot's of apostrophes in French. Poor spelling and grammar detracts from what people are writing, tbh. The reader concentrates on the abbreviation 'dont' 'gonna' and can't get past that to the point of what's being written.

Sharptonguedwoman · 27/06/2025 22:46

Boliviabae · 27/06/2025 19:55

Okay so let's look at a different word.

I'm.

That would make sense as Im.

There is no other ' Im' in the English language.

Im changes the word sound from eye -m to 'im' like Tim.

Doitrightnow · 27/06/2025 22:47

I don't think it's just about missing letters or possession - if I was reading a novel, or even an email, the punctuation and apostrophes will affect the tone I imagine the author/character saying the words.

So "I don't know" wouldn't be the same to me as "I do not know", or "I DO NOT KNOW!" or "I. Do. Not. Know".

Dont in my head would be read to rhyme with font and be very jarring.

Sharptonguedwoman · 27/06/2025 22:48

Boliviabae · 27/06/2025 21:20

No it really doesn't.

Most people don't care in the slightest, which is why the word "less" is used so often.

Edited

Actually we really do. It makes out brains hurt.

Macaroni46 · 27/06/2025 23:01

I presume you’re aware you’ve added an erroneous apostrophe in your OP?

Isittimeformynapyet · 27/06/2025 23:05

Boliviabae · 27/06/2025 20:48

That post wasn't replying to you?

Is that a question? Surely it was a statement?

NoSoapJustUseShowerGel · 27/06/2025 23:05

“Apostrophe's were originally in place

It’s funny you’re complaining about too many apostrophes whilst using them where they’re not needed!

Kirova · 27/06/2025 23:06

This whole topic reminds me of a teacher I had when I was about eleven, who said that our whole class treated commas as though we were scattering grain on a field and expecting it to take seed wherever it fell!

queenofthesuburbs · 27/06/2025 23:11

@SpidersAreShitheadsYes! That’s it… really very funny

queenofthesuburbs · 27/06/2025 23:13

steff13 · 27/06/2025 22:20

I always think if this song when I see that at the grocery.

I believe Marks and Spencer had to alter all their signs a few years ago, from “Ten items or less” to “Ten items or fewer”

ProperLavs · 27/06/2025 23:15

If you don’t know how to use apostrophes- then don’t start a thread about them.

Isittimeformynapyet · 27/06/2025 23:18

murasaki · 27/06/2025 21:17

Exactly, so it should always be 10 items or fewer in the supermarket. And it never is.

I've seen "fewer" at supermarket express tills.

People complained about this for decades and some stores listened and corrected their signage.

ProperLavs · 27/06/2025 23:19

Kirova · 27/06/2025 20:34

Theres no need for apostrophe's. People just use them to make them look more intelligent than other's. The more the better.

Lol

Boliviabae · 27/06/2025 23:21

Isittimeformynapyet · 27/06/2025 23:05

Is that a question? Surely it was a statement?

No I wrote it exactly how I wanted it.

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Isittimeformynapyet · 27/06/2025 23:21

Boliviabae · 27/06/2025 21:22

I don't think so. Many of those sentences make sense without a comma.

You are only supposed to use a comma when you have two independent clauses, or when you have a list of items.

And when you would naturally pause during a sentence, as I've done here.

Boliviabae · 27/06/2025 23:21

ProperLavs · 27/06/2025 23:15

If you don’t know how to use apostrophes- then don’t start a thread about them.

Ouch you hurt me with that pathetic insult.

Not.

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Boliviabae · 27/06/2025 23:22

Isittimeformynapyet · 27/06/2025 23:21

And when you would naturally pause during a sentence, as I've done here.

No that is incorrect.

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Boliviabae · 27/06/2025 23:23

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Boliviabae · 27/06/2025 23:27

LillyPJ · 27/06/2025 22:12

Apostrophes that show omission (wouldn't, can't, we're etc) often eventually lose the apostrophe. That's why we have phone and not 'phone or bus and not 'bus. We have plenty of words that were originally two, like fortnight (was fourteen nights) or alright and they probably had apostrophes at one time. It just takes a long time to lose them because we generally don't like change.

Yes, so apostrophes have changed over time.

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