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To think money ends poverty- not education, not mindset, not budgeting advice, just actual money?

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WildHazelCritic · 27/06/2025 17:35

I keep seeing discussions about “breaking the poverty cycle” or helping people escape hardship and the solutions are always long-term or conditional: learn to budget, go back to school, change your mindset. But poverty is often just not having enough money. And people giving money - whether through better wages, benefits, or direct support, would make the biggest difference. AIBU to think we over complicate it because people are uncomfortable with the idea of redistribution or just giving people what they need?

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Badbadbunny · 30/06/2025 10:14

Maverickess · 29/06/2025 14:06

Exactly.

No one seems to have a problem with people doing these jobs while they're using the services, or employing people to provide the services, which makes them money, only when it's discussed that the wages they pay aren't enough, suddenly no one should do these jobs and should better themselves.

We can't have it all ways, people need to live, they don't disappear under a rock when they've stopped being useful to you. Either you pay more for the initial product/service or you pay more through taxation and people get that to survive.

Or you get the people currently on minimum wage who want to progress better trained to be able to get better jobs, and then get some of the 1.5 to 2 million unemployed trained to do the vacated minimum wage jobs. I.e. "nudge" people in different situations up the employment ladder via training i.e. education!

That could be basic skills like learning to drive, or basic numeracy/literacy, etc., to get unemployed into minimum wage work, and on the job/vocational training to get current minimum wage workers into more skilled work, like the trades, train driving, fire fighters, "technician" level professions, etc etc.

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