Lifestyle Choices impacting on the NHS -Boiling my piss!!!!

[Lardychops]

DH is currently on an NHS orthopaedics ward with around 7/8 other men.
He played 5 aside around 3 weeks ago , got bashed on the thigh and the bruise has spread and become hard and hot and painful, now infected and he needs it operated on due to risk of sepsis.

On the ward are 4 men 60 plus who have been involved in motorcycle accidents with legs in pins and have undergone several operations and been in hospital weeks ( 1 for months) as well as a young lad who was brought in yesterday following a cycling collision with another cyclist with his upper left side shattered. One other man was on a sponsored 3 peak running challenge (with a one man band scenario or such like ) and has shattered his ankle. Looking at an op tomo and a very long recuperation. yesterday a man left who had been in for three months after a skking accident with a broken hip that would not heal properly.

Am I unreasonable in thinking that with the NHS in the state it is at this current time that personal responsibility for lifestyle choices should be more of a consideration for all of us with the tax payer footing the bill for feckless and irresponsible behaviours.
It’s all avoidable surely , making better, healthier choices that do not willingly impact on limited resources.

Sports such as football, skiing, cycling, motorcross as well as mountaineering are risky to one’s health and people need to take personal responsibility.

Am I being unreasonable tax payers?

Ok so you are happy for your son not to be treated. Would've made the queues shorter for my DD who needed treatment for a good deformity that she had no control over

All equal in my view. All worthy of equal treatment
So why not just say that in the first bloody place then

Actually the people who smoke pay moreintothenhs than they take

@Lardychops
What do you class as a lifestyle choice?
The DELICIOUS irony being your husband made a choice to play football. Why should people pay for his care when he played a game with a known injury rate? Why did he ignore it until he needed surgery? His choice his bill by your rules.
Having kids is a lifestyle choice, so start paying to deliver them privately or use contraception.
See how silly it gets? I’m being purposely facetious if that wasn’t clear OP.

I know this is something smokers tend to quote, but the reality is that smoking doesn’t just cost the NHS money, but has an indirect impact on other services. Therefore the overall cost of smoking to the public purse is significantly higher that what the smoker pays in.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Is playing 5 aside not a lifestyle choice ?

What do you propose happens to people out living their lives and getting into accidents.... We just leave them to suffer ?

I despair that people like you walk among us. Zero brain cells left.

Nice one OP.

Does Mister Streeting make lifestyle choices I wonder and are they the right ones?

Life’s for living, not cowering away.

Maddest post ever, well done OP

Sport does at least help people avoid obesity and other conditions.

Motorcycle accidents are usually caused by car drivers pulling out without looking, it isn't the bikers fault, although I gave up my m/bike after yet another half wit behind the wheel pulled out of a T-junction without looking.

The ones that really piss me off are those taking drugs, alcohol and smoking to the point they render themselves so ill, they need serious long term expensive care.

How spectacularly dim can you get, to take something knowing full well it will make you ill. And no it doesn't look cool.

They're just thick. Darwinism in action.

Now I've got that off my chest, I'm going for a run. A slow careful one 😁

YABU
maybe the motorcyclists we’re going to work, the cyclists keeping fit to avoid going to hospital, your DH keeping fit, skiing for sport and love.

accidents happen in all sorts of places. The fell runner was raising money for charity.
many go down the road for people with poor diets (even skinny people can have shocking cholesterol from a poor diet and some people are a little overweight although lead a healthier lifestyle.

I think maybe worded should we all try to life a healthier lifestyle, yes. But this involves exercising to do this.

What indirect impact?

I remember having a discussion once with a friend of mine about how if cigarettes were so bad for you then why are they not banned? Can only be the fact that the government does want to lose the tax income from them

But, aren't nearly all of the reasons we end up in hospital sort of our own stupid fault - from falling off a ladder cleaning out the gutters, to being pregnant. Not to repeat about the smokers, drinkers, overeaters and bad drivers!

It's really only disease which are blameless.

Smoking can result in early retirement decreasing tax paid in work and low productivity at work due to absenteeism.. Reliance on benefits due to being too ill to work. Premature death resulting in no tax being paid. Also increased burden on social services when care needed due to long term smoking issues - COPD etc.

Op might feel differently if it was her in hospital waiting for treatment, everything is a lifestyle choice. Staying in bed all day to keep safe is a lifestyle choice which would result in bed sores and muscle wasting needing physio. Are you a driver? What if you have an accident returning home from the hospital because you chose to drive or maybe you chose to take the bus or cycle?

That doesn't compute. Most UK people are in favour of the NHS and everyone being treated, however what went wrong went wrong. We fix people. I am happy to fix up the list OP gave and also those who are foolish enough to smoke and overeat, too.
Not sure having babies is a life-style choice. If everyone decides not to have them we are up stook in lots of ways. I think having babies is a species survival choice.

From their update seems OP was doing some kind of stupid reverse shit based on a previous thread and we were all supposed to magically know what they were on about (sorry but that sort of thing is so annoying 🙄😁)
They don't believe what they put in their original comment at all and was just trying to make a point.

Those people also pay hundreds in tax a year on their vices

OP I honestly don’t know how you can do a job like that. I have so much respect for you. Oh and remember - if you want to do satire on Mumsnet you need to start with a disclaimer so as not to trigger the pearl clutchers. You did forget one particular group that are a major drain on NHS resources though - those bloody women who insist on having babies.

Wow so judgy. Are we all supposed to just sit at home binge watching Netflix because it's safer? Trust me all those people you mention will probably be beating themselves up already about their choices while they are spending months possibly years trying to get better again through a difficult, stressful and very very painful recovery. Some injuries are life changing and they might never be right again, so they got their punishment for trying to get the most out of their life and have a bit fun. I'm one of those people. Go easy. People have a right to make decisions (even bad ones). By your reckoning should the NHS also not treat people who overdose on drugs, drink too much? Eat too many burgers. Vape or smoke too much, accidentally crash their car? (maybe they should have stayed home where it was safe?) maybe if they had the good sense to not do DIY or gardening they wouldn't have fallen off the ladder or cut their leg with a strimmer? Or that chainsaw accident would never have happened if they never bought a chainsaw? Maybe if they didn't work and claimed benefits instead they would not have had that serious work related accident? Just where do you draw the line? I would say after a lifetime of paying my contributions to the NHS that maybe that is what they are there for? To pick up the pieces when things go wrong? And we are people so yes things do unfortunately go wrong.

OP is hilarious. Playing five-a-side is also a lifestyle choice 😆 and I've lost count of the number of dad friends I know in their 40's/50's who've knackered themselves doing this! It's a nice fun thing to do with mates in the park. They are not 15 any longer and not always in peak fitness ... Cycling and endurance challenges might be more high risk but they also involve high levels of fitness and that's a good thing, long-term, for the NHS. I'm not sure about the motorcycle stuff in terms of fitness and god knows, we've got our fair share of middle aged men on bikes round here, but it's also a hobby that involves socialising, getting outside, etc.
Anyway, OP is being massively unreasonable to think that playing five-a-side isn't a risky lifestyle choice!

This. Fairly astonishing that with the huge burden that drinking, smoking and overeating puts on the NHS you would be concerned about people exercising.

You can't really win in your worldview, can you? If you exercise you're costing the NHS money, if you sit on your arse eating and drinking you're also costing the NHS money. Which is a greater concern in your view?

I'd much rather be with someone who lives life to the full, keeps their body moving and reduces strain on their internal organs by keeping active (even with a small risk of injury) than with someone who sits around at home all day.

I hope you’re including your DH in that? And yes YABU, what a stupid thing to say, so everyone should sit in the house with no hobbies incase of an accident, because it boils your piss? 🤣 seriously never read anything so daft in my life. That’s like saying you should reconsider driving a car incase you get into an accident. Or maybe don’t wash your hair incase you get shampoo in your eye and you go blind.

Helmets should be worn by everyone (including three year olds, habit forming) riding scooters, cycles and bikes. (As Australia).

Extra taxes on all unhealthy food and drinks, we all know the ones which ones so don’t split hairs and the money will go straight to the NHS.