Lifestyle Choices impacting on the NHS -Boiling my piss!!!!

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DH is currently on an NHS orthopaedics ward with around 7/8 other men.
He played 5 aside around 3 weeks ago , got bashed on the thigh and the bruise has spread and become hard and hot and painful, now infected and he needs it operated on due to risk of sepsis.

On the ward are 4 men 60 plus who have been involved in motorcycle accidents with legs in pins and have undergone several operations and been in hospital weeks ( 1 for months) as well as a young lad who was brought in yesterday following a cycling collision with another cyclist with his upper left side shattered. One other man was on a sponsored 3 peak running challenge (with a one man band scenario or such like ) and has shattered his ankle. Looking at an op tomo and a very long recuperation. yesterday a man left who had been in for three months after a skking accident with a broken hip that would not heal properly.

Am I unreasonable in thinking that with the NHS in the state it is at this current time that personal responsibility for lifestyle choices should be more of a consideration for all of us with the tax payer footing the bill for feckless and irresponsible behaviours.
It’s all avoidable surely , making better, healthier choices that do not willingly impact on limited resources.

Sports such as football, skiing, cycling, motorcross as well as mountaineering are risky to one’s health and people need to take personal responsibility.

Am I being unreasonable tax payers?

I think, OP, there is something to be said for people having personal insurance if they do something that is likely to lead to injury e.g. dangerous sports.

However, the NHS is there for everyone. Once you start saying people should pay for their treatment because they should be more responsible you are going a long way down a rabbit hole which comes out at everyone should pay for their healthcare because no one (or very few) live lives that are 100% healthy 100% of the time.

Because of the mass sense of humour failure (or at least failure to even spot the humour), I imagine.

Not a bad hypothesis, this one 😂!

I guess technically, every use of the NHS could be argued as a consequence of a lifestyle choice. I’m struggling to think of one that isn’t (except disablement from birth).

Are you serious? Why would she pay when no one else is?

well you sound fun. Imagine you sit in your house wrapped in bubble wrap all day ?

Also why should the OP use her own money to fund her husband's "lifestyle choices"?

Surely the expense of any treatment should be met by him since it's his "dangerous" hobby 😂?

err... EH?!

YABVVVVU

Surely, having the charming OP to look after him after his accident will be enough to ensure he takes more care next time.

Sure they're expensive but I'm not sure they're as expensive as all the people eating and sitting their way into long years of ill health.

So if the NHS refused to treat anyone due to lifestyle choices who's left?
Can't treat smokers, drinkers, obese people, anyone who plays sport, pregnant women, anyone who drives a car or motorbike.
So who exactly do you think should be allowed hospital treatment? YABVU.

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This OP reminds me of the stay homers during Covid who self righteously condemned all the selfish people who might need "rescuing" the second they set foot outside the door. They often get very indignant on behalf of the RNLI who are constantly going out to rescue the selfish people who insist on going outside and doing activities instead of staying inside and looking at life through a computer or phone screen like responsible citizens.

(Though in a way I'm torn because I'm currently full of loathing for the noisy way men ride their stupid motorbikes, keeping me up and night and waking me up early in the morning.)

OK. In that case I am hereby mounting a request to have my NICS slashed to avoid paying for any NHS treatment your child needs. After all, having a child was your lifestyle choice, why should i be financially impacted by it? I'm sure you understand and will support my point of view .

Do you see how ridiculous that sounds?

Do you see how ridiculous you sound?

Cancer, which is one of the most common reasons people use NHS services is caused by a gene mutation. Genes form our DNA that we have from birth. Some cancers are hereditary, such as breast cancer. Some people can never smoke, eat healthily, exercise, do yoga etc and still get cancer.

Our gene cells constantly make copies. When a gene cell develops a fault, it mutates at an alarming rate, to form a malignant tumour. This is how cancer begins.

WTAF are you talking about?? Im guessing your husband is included in the irresponsible brigade??

YABU.
Playing football and cycling is a healthy choice. Much better than sitting at home, eating an unhealthy diet, smoking, drinking and getting no exercise. And while it does use NHS resources to deal with people having footballing or cycling accidents I imagine that if everyone stopped cycling or playing football the cost would be greater to the NHS due to the increased number of people needed treatment for the type of diseases caused by a lack of exercise and obesity.

That said, I live in an area in the Alps where in recent years there have been more and more ski areas offering downhill mountain biking trails with obstacles, jumps etc. This is to attract more tourists when the ski lifts aren't running and also to prepare for when ski tourism goes down the pan as there's less and less snow.
The local hospital absolutely cannot cope with the number of mountain biking accidents. It's worse than the skiing. There are crisis meetings going on currently involving the provincial government and various health boards, hospital management etc.
This week two people have died on the mountain bike trails.
So in this case, I do think they need to come up with a solution because the hospital is at breaking point dealing with these mountain biker tourists.

That includes your husband I assume?

Was OP's post meant to be funny?

By your metric, what are the acceptable activities to have participated in and to have run the risk of, or achieved, broken bones in?

It's an orthopedic trauma ward. Of course those are the kind of accidents men get to break a bone. If you're not really elderly. Sports injuries and motorcycle/bike collision.

I was in the ortho trauma ward for five weeks. One young girl broke her arm falling off a bicycle. Everyone else was a fall from standing height or being knocked by a vehicle. Most other female patients were seventy five- 90 yo.

So it does seem like mens hobbies are much more dangerous than women's, that's for sure. I used to be surprised I was still alive every time I got off my boyfriend's motorbike.

Wow, I had no idea!

Illuminating, thank you. Though I guess flying over the handlebars and landing your collarbone on a rock is even more likely to break it than stacking it on a red run and landing on snow is.

That is DEF not listed under the Amber heat health alert checklist!

Exactly!