Lifestyle Choices impacting on the NHS -Boiling my piss!!!!

[Lardychops]

DH is currently on an NHS orthopaedics ward with around 7/8 other men.
He played 5 aside around 3 weeks ago , got bashed on the thigh and the bruise has spread and become hard and hot and painful, now infected and he needs it operated on due to risk of sepsis.

On the ward are 4 men 60 plus who have been involved in motorcycle accidents with legs in pins and have undergone several operations and been in hospital weeks ( 1 for months) as well as a young lad who was brought in yesterday following a cycling collision with another cyclist with his upper left side shattered. One other man was on a sponsored 3 peak running challenge (with a one man band scenario or such like ) and has shattered his ankle. Looking at an op tomo and a very long recuperation. yesterday a man left who had been in for three months after a skking accident with a broken hip that would not heal properly.

Am I unreasonable in thinking that with the NHS in the state it is at this current time that personal responsibility for lifestyle choices should be more of a consideration for all of us with the tax payer footing the bill for feckless and irresponsible behaviours.
It’s all avoidable surely , making better, healthier choices that do not willingly impact on limited resources.

Sports such as football, skiing, cycling, motorcross as well as mountaineering are risky to one’s health and people need to take personal responsibility.

Am I being unreasonable tax payers?

Wow, nice to know NHS staff have such a high amount of respect for the public....to describe their deceased bodies in such a manner ! 🙄

But hang on, these are the same group of people who were rehearsing dance videos on Tik Tok while claiming to be "overwhelmed" a couple of years back and relishing in the hero-worshipping and freebies that gullible businesses provided as we were all forced to stay stuck at home to "protect the NHS". Suddenly, I'm not surprised at the blatant disregard for patients.

OP you didn’t include all the weekend DIYs falling off stepladders, hitting themselves with hammers, cutting themselves with sharp implements and power toolls, eye injuries from not wearing safety goggles etc (Lighthearted, but these things do happen)

My DH spent 6 weeks in a 22 bed ortho trauma ward. There were 2 teenagers who were there on account of doing stupid teenager stuff. There was DH in his thirties, who got put in a corner with the two young ones.

Almost everyone else there was 70+.

My dad had an op after falling over at home. 16 pins in his shoulder, and he will never lift his arm above his head again.

Indeed it did …xx

He is indeed and im
thinking of LingTB!!

Gosh, what a very middle class hospital ward 😁

It’s a class thing innit ! Xx

And we have a winner !

Yes I bloody do!
feckless scoundrel he is !

Indeed
shocking

Yes on a serious note that is the case-
my cousin is a nurse and they call them the bike donors

Do they tell the blood bike folks that they are also "donors"... or their bike riding colleagues. Or the paramedics that are first on the scene via motorcycle.
I worked for the NHS and commuted via motorbike.

Yes I tried , but I guess missed the mark lol x
Can’t blame a girl (cynical burned out middle aged woman) for trying.

I work with the most vulnerable in my community ( teacher, but now a social worker, also - I remain living in the community I work with)
Many of my lovely but vulnerable families - smoke, drink and even (gasp) use drugs.
A high proportion are large and some very large.

Sick to the back teeth of the ‘undeserving’/ ‘unworthy’ vilification narrative/politics/downright spitefulness around ‘people like them’ accessing health care as a basic right.

The same as anyone engaging in risky or adrenaline fuelled pursuits, high impact sports, or choosing to starve themselves, or self harming, or getting into a fight, neglecting self care to the point of harm and refusing help etc etc

All equal in my view. All worthy of equal treatment

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My impression is that everything is up for grabs ‘gallows humour wise’ - and it’s brutal (very dark and very funny but brutal)
but not sure bout your specific example / I imagine not tho as all part of the save service ?)

Yeah. It's just the way people's bodies work. It needs to be quite high impact to cause a fracture on a younger person. But elderly people can just break from tripping while walking.

When I was a medic, we called them "donor cycles". That has as much to do with some of the idiots driving and not paying attention to the motorcycles and SOME motorcyclists thinking the rules of the road are just suggestions for them.

Dark or macabre humor was the only way, at times, to deal with the horrors.

Childrens Social Care is the same -
as well. The humour carries you - anyone listening in would be horrified!
(as well as the absolute filth between close colleagues lol)
hopefully the walls don’t have ears!

Hahaha wonder what would have been said if it was some drunken fell down the stairs sort of accident?

The NHS either needs to stay free at the point of use or it doesn't.
But it can't go down the road of some accidents are covered and others aren't.

If football or cycling arent covered where does that leave children?
What is or isn't a game of football, a group of kids having a kick-about?
What is or isn't cycling? A kid on a push along ride on toy? A balance bike? Does a cose coupe car constitute a car accident?

What about heart conditions is having a heart attack playing golf not covered but walking to the shops is covered?

Absolutely ludicrous take to be honest. The people who you have described here are physically active which is one of the biggest factors in preventing chronic disease. The NHS is in a mess because it is incredibly badly run. Not because healthy people have accidents.

I’m more annoyed with the people eating crap, drinking alcohol, vaping/smoking and sitting on their arses, who then expect medications/treatment to mitigate the symptoms caused by their shitty lifestyle. Sure some sports are high risk, and maybe the clubs that organise matches etc could promote some level of private healthcare to help meet the cost of injuries, but there are much bigger drains on nhs resources.

There was this exact same thread a few months ago.

Result was: sports injuries ok, at least people are trying to be active and stay fit; treating people who smoke, drink, are fat, don’t wear seatbelts, etc is the problem.

I am a nurse and I understand where you are coming from. The issues are far more complex than anyone could possibly imagine. The majority of physical health issues are as a result of mental health issues never being addressed. Then of course we have the lack of social care and money in that sector. Elderly often spending months in a hospital setting when they have been medically fit 2 weeks after being admitted. It would be a novel idea to turn some people away but we can't. To add there is a big problem with those at the top getting paid ridiculous amounts and then there are the thieving politicians. So sometimes our anger is best put towards those individuals rather than those who are truly battling in life.