Lifestyle Choices impacting on the NHS -Boiling my piss!!!!

[Lardychops]

DH is currently on an NHS orthopaedics ward with around 7/8 other men.
He played 5 aside around 3 weeks ago , got bashed on the thigh and the bruise has spread and become hard and hot and painful, now infected and he needs it operated on due to risk of sepsis.

On the ward are 4 men 60 plus who have been involved in motorcycle accidents with legs in pins and have undergone several operations and been in hospital weeks ( 1 for months) as well as a young lad who was brought in yesterday following a cycling collision with another cyclist with his upper left side shattered. One other man was on a sponsored 3 peak running challenge (with a one man band scenario or such like ) and has shattered his ankle. Looking at an op tomo and a very long recuperation. yesterday a man left who had been in for three months after a skking accident with a broken hip that would not heal properly.

Am I unreasonable in thinking that with the NHS in the state it is at this current time that personal responsibility for lifestyle choices should be more of a consideration for all of us with the tax payer footing the bill for feckless and irresponsible behaviours.
It’s all avoidable surely , making better, healthier choices that do not willingly impact on limited resources.

Sports such as football, skiing, cycling, motorcross as well as mountaineering are risky to one’s health and people need to take personal responsibility.

Am I being unreasonable tax payers?

Don’t be daft.

Are you including your husband in that OP?

Criiiiiinge.

So is your husband going to go private because his injury was a lifestyle choice?

Yabvu to choose those examples. These ar people living life to the full. You overlook the people who smoke and drink and eat unhealthily and don’t exercise who cost the nhs far far more.

But you could the same with patients who are having treatment due to smoking, alcohol, drugs, having kids is a lifestyle choice, heart attacks due lifestyle choices, lung transplants due to smoking, what about women with cervical cancer? Or men with penile cancer or anyone who has throat cancer which are all caused due to HPV? Or people with HIV or AIDS due unprotected sex or shared needles? Should these people be allowed treatment? YABU.

There is definitely something to be said about taking personal responsibility but if you are talking about behaviours that put pressure on the NHS, it’s not cyclists you should be worrying about - it’s the people doing zero exercise, drinking too much and (biggest one) eating too much.

Don’t be so ridiculous OP. This is sounding a bit like “stay at home to protect the NHS” we got during covid

I think road traffic accidents are far and away the biggest risk, aren’t they? Does that qualify as a lifestyle choice?

Very unreasonable and judgy .. so now playing sports is feckless and irresponsible? When we are all encouraged to do more sport to make us healthier?! 😂

How much do you think that your husband should pay?

Are you going to tell your husband he can no longer play any form of sport, ride a bike, a motorbike, drive in a car , walk on the pavement in case he trips over, in fact walk anywhere in case he hurts himself, so on and so on?

Well, having babies is a lifestyle choice, and if you add up the cost of that...

Let's not play this game. As shit as the NHS is sometimes, the principle of just cracking on and treating everyone who needs immediate medical help is something to be proud of. I couldn't imagine living in a country where sick people didn't see the doctor because they were worried they couldn't afford treatment that would save their lives or seriously preserve the quality of their lives.

Thought this was going to be about a ward full of obese alcoholic smokers - not men going about their lives playing sport - like your DH. Isn’t playing 5 a side a lifestyle choice?

I broke my foot (tripping in my house, not hiking or anything).
Went to A&E early on a Sunday morning, was pretty empty. They said I was smart to show up before all the runners and cyclists out for their morning run.

Sure enough, limping and bruised runners started turning up. I was just concerned about missing the drinkers at night, didn't know about the morning rush! 😂

I'm amazed at how much you know about these other men's circumstances.

ETA: YABU for saying boiling my piss.

Nah, happy enough to pay taxes to fix that lot up.

I hate to think how many accidents are caused now by dumb phone use, plus the lack of exercise from too much phone time. I still think the results should be dealt with.

that was not the direction I expected this post to take

Op your being daft.
And actually people would end up lying about how injuries occurred.

drinkers , smokers and people with obesity are a far greater constant strain on the nhs , I think we can let people exercise without risking a substantial bill

So we want people to be active & take exercise to stay healthy - but if they happen to injure themselves while doing that then they shouldn’t be treated on the NHS?

Seems unfair. I’d imagine, statistically, active, sporty, generally fit people are less of a financial burden on the NHS across their lifetime. If not less of a burden, certainly not more.

Lol - I'm more worried about the £10 billion the NHS has to spend every year treating the Type 2 Diabetes people who are fat/sick because they can't put down the fizzy drinks and junk food and go for a walk.

People breaking their legs in motorbike/skiing accidents aren't the issue here. Over half the population being overweight is (and over a quarter of the population are now obese!!! Yikes! With figures for young people/children being absolutely abysmal).

If it clears your conscience @Lardychops feel free to repay the cost of your husband treatment to me - a taxpayer.

im happy to take cash, cheque, bank transfer or crypto.

just say the word and I will DM you my details. 😆😜

You know a remarkable amount of detail of the other patients. Have you been interviewing them? Eavesdropping when the nurses and doctors see them? Or made up for the froth? I know where my money is.

I agree with the other posters we all make lifestyle choices which can impact our health. Smoking, drug taking, drinking alcohol, obesity, the list goes on but that does not mean these people should not have access to nhs treatment! To be fair this op has boiled my piss a little.

just to add I am a smoker, my father died in a motor bike accident and I now live overseas where there is no public funded healthcare. I am not judging anyone (except perhaps OP).