Lifestyle Choices impacting on the NHS -Boiling my piss!!!!

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DH is currently on an NHS orthopaedics ward with around 7/8 other men.
He played 5 aside around 3 weeks ago , got bashed on the thigh and the bruise has spread and become hard and hot and painful, now infected and he needs it operated on due to risk of sepsis.

On the ward are 4 men 60 plus who have been involved in motorcycle accidents with legs in pins and have undergone several operations and been in hospital weeks ( 1 for months) as well as a young lad who was brought in yesterday following a cycling collision with another cyclist with his upper left side shattered. One other man was on a sponsored 3 peak running challenge (with a one man band scenario or such like ) and has shattered his ankle. Looking at an op tomo and a very long recuperation. yesterday a man left who had been in for three months after a skking accident with a broken hip that would not heal properly.

Am I unreasonable in thinking that with the NHS in the state it is at this current time that personal responsibility for lifestyle choices should be more of a consideration for all of us with the tax payer footing the bill for feckless and irresponsible behaviours.
It’s all avoidable surely , making better, healthier choices that do not willingly impact on limited resources.

Sports such as football, skiing, cycling, motorcross as well as mountaineering are risky to one’s health and people need to take personal responsibility.

Am I being unreasonable tax payers?

You could say that about most reasons people are in hospital. Loads of people are massively fat and/or diabetic as a result of what they put in their mouths. A lot of modern ills are as a result of the direct choices people make like smoking, drug taking etc. Where would you draw the line.

People do need to start learning how to look after themselves but to withhold care because you ride a bike or fall over on a forest trail would be inhumane.

There's contributory life choices to lots of reasons for people needing hospital care, so yabu really

I was in a car accident. An idiot sped over a STOP junction right in to my drivers side door, which crumpled, so in effect he drove in to me.

He was fine, it was just me draining the NHS in my dangerous pursuit of driving down at 30mph street.

Everything comes with risk even when you take none.

I’d assume that doctors who work for the NHS would not be discouraging folk from playing sport that you have deemed ‘feckless and irresponsible’. Accidents happen.
I hope your husband has a speedy recovery

Exactly

I thought was pretty obvious and I'm surprised that so many people missed that (and indeed then went on to do exactly what OP was parodying and start blaming the fatties and the drunks).

Erm... Remind us again why DH is in there? 😂

Agree, but now imagine that idiot who sped over a stop junction driving straight into the side of your body instead. The problem with motor bikes is that there is absolutely no protection. Cars are dangerous (I had a conversation about risky transport with my dd who is scared of flying the other day). But when you come off a bike, injuries tend to be far worse.

Yes, they "chose" to have a car and drive, so according to OP'S way of thinking it's their own fault!

Oh the irony.

No, but it has caused an injury which is now going to use up the very same stretched NHS resources OP is complaining about. You have to admit there's a certain irony in that.

Don't be silly OP.

Lifestyle choices are only considered a burden on thr NHS if you're an unattractive fat person or a stinky smoker or alcoholic.

Choosing other risky lifestyles is totally fine and never a burden on the NHS! Especially sports! Because they're cool, you see!

“Boiling my piss” What a vulgar and unnecessary statement. YAB(dramatically)U.

Well that went well OP, hasnt it 😂

This is actually a myth. The tax paid by "drinkers and smokers" funds the NHS which far outweighs their use. Morbidly obses tend to die young so also not expensive.

You've not mentioned obesity, which is the much more costly lifestyle-related issue. If people need to take responsibility for what they subject their body to, that will need to be included.

The question could be this - would people do these things if they were told they would have to pay for any treatment required? I suspect that people who do sport would carry on- it’s good for mental well being and health. Drinking to excess and stuffing your face until you are obese and get diabetes and need lifelong medication however maybe not, these people might think again.

YABU OP.

Cyclists live longer, healthier lives and are less likely to get dementia. Cycling instead of driving saves governments heaps of money in the long run.

Where would you stop on assessing lifestyle injuries? The list would be endless.

Exactly. Imagine penalising people who are fit and active!

We're back to the lockdown message of "Sit on the sofa eating banana bread to do your bit for the NHS!"

YANBU, OP.

And as for these people "living life to the full" and being the "best of us", quite a few of them are no doubt children- and family-avoidant twats who have taken up time-consuming or all-day hobbies to escape the demands of family life and the drudgery of domestic chores. While they're living their best life cycling in the Surrey Hills or going out to the pub with their football mates, many will have spouses or partners at home wrangling small children, and the closest they'll come to living their best life is a glass of wine or bar of chocolate when the kids are finally asleep.

The trouble with trying to limit treatment based on the extent to which the patient could have avoided arriving at their predicament is that it would require medical staff to make that judgement on the ground. They're presented with a snapshot, rather than having all the info they would need. Some situations are complex.

Completely incorrect. Obesity and all the big diseases that go with it is are crippling the NHS and the biggest cost burdens hence the NHS funding of weight loss jabs.

Somebody fit and cycling is going to cost the NHS significantly less over a lifetime.

So why is your husband in the NHS ward, it was his choice to play 5 a side

I have a friend who’s a doctor. I once asked her if she judges. She said no, she doesn’t. She doesn’t see a chronic smoker as any different from someone who’s having children. It’s all lifestyle choices.