To think “non-binary” is becoming a fashion statement for some people rather than a true identity?

[ByPoliteExpert]

Not saying it’s not real but the aestheticisation of it is creeping in.

What if I identify as being 5 years old when I'm in my 40s? Do I get to return to school and repeat my school years?

Only if your internal self agrees

At least non binary kids aren't being sterilised and hacked to pieces. If it gives them a safe place to land after being swept up in this toxic haze of gender bollocks then, I'm all for it. I'll even play the game and pretend there's a trapped soul fighting the power in there.

Non-binary young women are having double mastectomies in some cases.

Oh, really? Man. That is the pits.

It's "gender affirming" apparently. See this Spectator article: https://archive.ph/AIBOg

Hysterectomies too. It's not harmless.

So their philosophical belief about themselves? One that doesn’t reflect the material reality of their bodies.

I had no idea. I would ask why someone who doesn't have a gender needs to express that through mutilation but no doubt there is some glossy double speak with a Butleresque vocab to go with it.

Some people who feel that way simply describe themselves as non-identifying or say they “don’t have a gender identity.” Others might use terms like gender-neutral, agnostic, or even cisgender if their experience aligns with their sex and they don’t feel any internal conflict about it.

Not everyone feels the need to adopt a label though and that’s valid too. The whole point is that gender identity (or lack of it) is personal. Some people feel it strongly and others don’t experience it at all. Both are real and okay.

Saying agender seems sensible enough.

Like religion. Those who believe in no gods are atheist.

Meanwhile, there are any amount of gods and religions to choose from of you are a theist.

My point about identifying as 5 years old looks like I was just being flippant but has a serious point. There's no problem with me doing that but because it's just my personal belief and doesn't have any real-world existence, then this means that the world can disregard my odd belief about myself and continue treat me as I actually am.

And so it should be the same with people who assert other unusual identities, eg around "gender".

First post nails it.

Having different 'identity' boxes to fit people into is always largely nonsense imo. There are things you factually are (e.g. your age, your sex). Everything else is just a bunch of different choices, preferences or personality traits, which can often change over time, and which are not fixed to any particular age, sex, race, ethnicity or sexuality.

100% totally stupid nonsense

I think a lot of what we associate with gender - roles, expectations, norms, is socially constructed. Things like “girls wear pink/men don’t cry” come from culture not biology.

But that doesn’t mean gender isn’t real to people. Even if something is socially constructed, it can still deeply shape how people experience the world and how they understand themselves. Money and language are socially constructed too but they’re real in terms of impact. So yes, I do agree that gender is largely socially constructed but I also think people’s internal experiences of it can be very real, even if the frameworks around it were built by society.

Gender identity is rather tricky to pin down as everyone is an individual. What I do know is not a single person is interested my nuanced experiences of gender identity (possible exception of my mother) and they will perceive me as the sex I look like regardless of the pronouns I use. Therefore it does seem more hassle than it’s worth. Beyond making yourself look a bit self absorbed, it is completely harmless though.

So basically you’re upset too many people are claiming the label so you can’t feel soecisl
and unique any more 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

It really is a religion, isn't it?

OP - go and watch Life of Brian and in your mind replace every reference to religion with a gender identity equivalent. Apart from in the 'I want to be a woman' scene.

....SPLITTERS!!

I'm not sure atheist is to agender. Somebody who tells you that they are atheistic isn't just telling you that they don't have a relationship with God, they are also claiming nobody else does either. They step out of the religious framework.

But declaring that you are agender seems to be reframed as a you-issue. That you don't have a gender and that is a gender = agender. And it loses the opportunity to identify out of the discourse entirely and claim the whole framework is fabricated nonsense.

No such thing as non binary. There's male or female and we don't choose which one we're born as. Dress, personality and interests can be completely up to the individual. Still doesn't change your sex though. Odd how in 2025 we feel the two correlate in any way.

"Non binary" are nearly always young females who have coloured hair and big glasses and a nose ring. They're normally straight but will say they're "pansexual". Very shouty MC shout face about any controversial topic such as trans rights and their ability to use opposite sex changing facilities, but strangely quiet when it comes to women's rights.

It's all very yesterday now surely ? Bring back era when the most rebellious thing to do was dye your hair black and wear a choker ( circa. 2000)

I’m interested to know what makes them non-binary. What specifically tells them they are NB?

today I am wearing no make up, jeans and a t-shirt. I am at home alone. I don’t have any sense of feeling masculine or feminine. I’m just slobbing around doing some work and some chores. Am I non-binary today?

I genuinely don’t understand what it means. Everyone I have seen who says they are non-binary are clearly male or female and display all the signs of being male or female. It is such a strange concept to me.

Not everyone feels the need to adopt a label though and that’s valid too.

Gosh, how sweet of you to tell us that we can continue on in life as the sex we were born with instead of buying in to the current mumbo jumbo. 😆

I’m not non-binary. Nice try.

You have a sex, which you can't change, and a personality. That's it.

For men, it's usually those who want to go into women's single sex spaces but can't be arsed putting on a bit of lippy (not that that means the lippy men should get in!) So they go "I'm non binary, I'm more comfortable in the women's spaces" and think that gives them rights. It fucking well doesn't.

For women, they're tired of being objectified, the male gaze, porn culture, the pressure to look like you're off to Love Island. So they go "I'm non binary, so non of that awful stuff applies to me anymore". Unfortunately it still does, a sexual predator isn't going to leave you alone because you think you aren't a woman anymore, he won't give a shiny shit.

Both sexes take this shiny new identity and use it as some sort of personality transplant. How do you know if someone is non binary? Don't worry, they'll tell you! 🥁 All of a sudden, they (and I use that word for the group of people) think they're cool and interesting, they can identify as queer too and that gives them the sort of gravitas they never had when they were boring old men and women.

They can sit and lecture you with that smarmy self satisfied smirk they all seem to have, about life being soooo hard because someone didn't use "they/them" at work once, so naturally they dissolved into a puddle of uncontrollable shaking. But once they rematerialised the co worker got dragged into a disciplinary and the whole department had to do a allyship course.

TLDR: Pain in the arse attention seekers.