To think Palestine Action isn't a terrorist group?

[NotDarkGothicMama]

I don't agree with what they've done (breaking into military bases to vandalise planes), but I don't understand why they're being proscribed. Extinction Rebellion and Just Stop Oil have caused far more damage to property and general annoyance.

Arrest and prosecute the people who commit criminal acts, absolutely, but this is setting the bar for branding protestors "terrorists" far too low.

Like the BBC? And the RAF?

About time too. These disgusting, unwashed wastes of space should have been cracked down on at least a year and a half ago. Maybe they can go get jobs now if anyone will employ them.

I trust we can expect long prison sentences, the same or longer than the Southport rioters.

The planes weren't going to be used for that though, were they?

So? You don’t get to damage property that belongs to others because something offends you. I find PAG offensive, so it should be fine for me to slash their tyres and set fire to their shit right? I just have to outraged and narcissistic enough that I expect I should be able to do and say whatever I please to whomever and whatever I please. British civil society didn’t get to vote on whether they approved of the trashing or OUR defence equipment, we didn’t get to vote on whether Jewish businesses should be targeted or not. PAG actions are at odds with normal people who don’t like destruction of property or targeting individuals.

The reason western countries used to be functional is because we have some basic laws around property rights and our personal rights as individuals. Once groups and countries no longer enforce these basic civil rights chaos ensues. You don’t get to decide what should be a target for violence and what shouldn’t be. When the state no longer has a monopoly on violence (to physically enforce not random violence)societies destabilise.

People have always disagreed with their governments actions, we get to vote. Use your vote.

Whether you agree with the stance of Palestine action or not, what they did was not lawful, peaceful protest.

Nor was this, which has no doubt been replicated around the country.

Arrests as protesters occupy defence firm's Teesside (sic) factory roof - BBC News share.google/pVqVagXr9Akq0teGz

What they did was stupid and unacceptable, but the law doesn't work in the way you seem to think it should. They will get the sentences the law allows, not sentences based on comparison to completely different crimes.

The Suffragettes called themselves terrorists - and they were called terrorists at the time. They used bombs and arson.

Wonder if these people think "words are violence ": so surely breaking in and throwing paint is worse than that ?

YANBU!

Their aim was to STOP terrorism by preventing horrendous military weapons from being used on children. Every other recourse was tried first. Its classic direct action. It's nowhere near terrorism by any standard and exactly what Greenham Common women did. And much less violent than what suffragettes did.

So you think the world is going to be a safer place with Iran going nuclear?? Riggghhhttt…. And what exactly do you think is going to happen to the world’s children then?

I've asked this of a previous poster, but not got a clear response.
Do you think these planes are being used to attack innocent people in Gaza?

I do not support the genocide in Gaza.
However, taking out one of our defence planes by spraying the engine is not OK and should be severely punished.

Their level of self-righteousness certainly seem to be far higher than their level of intelligence.

The problem is when you are making indiscriminate attacks on military equipment you are making indiscriminate attacks on military equipment.

No one knows what these jets are being used for on a day to day basis. It could be anything from troop transport to aid transport to fighter jet refueling and probably a whole load of other stuff.

If you go around harming the countries military capability then you should expect that that there will be serious consequences as a result of that.

You need to wise up and read other threads. A Jewish family was surrounded and hounded by some of these terrorists (see: is Britain becoming like 1930’s Germany? Thread)
IMO it’s fine to protest - peacefully, but they aren’t being peaceful, are they?

Do you actually understand what happened? Like, any understanding at all?

This.

You have no idea who is a member/follows Palestine Action. People ready to kill, bomb etc. Who knows. Them breaking into a military base and causing damage to planes of the RAF is too far. No sympathy for them at all, throw the book at them all.

Yep, I find PAG offensive so might I pop around to their homes and spray paint on them.

Bunch of useful idiots who'll be at Glasto soon waving flags singing ditties whilst getting drunk and smoking pot and waving on the islamic terrorists groups with their "Houthis Houthis make us useful idiots proud kill a few more on those ships you turn around". Virtue signalling whilst spending mummy and daddies money is the usual Glasto type lets hate on the west because it's a way to annoy mummy and daddy. Damn it was born white and rich so gotta find some way of showing I hate the west and it's freedoms.

But they clearly are and should now be treated as such.
They broke into a military base and caused millions of pounds worth of damage, is that not a terrorist activity?

And this is why many people opposed fhe Terrorism act. Rights were being eroded.

The world would rather believe the Israeli narrative that Palestinians are bad and therefore should be banned from:
food
water
electricity
communications
travel
free association
free movement
the ability ti travel etc

Which of the planes these idiots damaged was flown into Gaza and dropped bombs? Stop making stuff up Hairy, these planes were not used to drop bombs in Gaza as you well know.

In any other country they would have been shot on sight, no questions asked. Only the fact that we have almost no military services left, after constant cuts, has allowed them to get away with this.

YABU. I fully support the proscription of PA. How dare they compromised our national security. FAFO.

YANBU.

It’s deeply troubling to see anti-terror laws used to target protestors.

Bring criminal charges sure. But proscribing the group? Ridiculous.