People no longer have pride In how they drsss.

[Welliesandtweed]

I've increasingly noticed that people are getting scruffier and scruffier in how they dress.

Some of the secretaries where I work come in, In trainers, band t shirts, coloured hair, loose fitting, cheap tops. I wouldn't do the garden in some of the outfits I see. They aren't typically patient facing but on occasion are. I think it really lacks professionalism to turn up scruffy to work.

Same for people out for an evening meal in jogging bottoms.

On Saturday we had sports day at school and every woman was in a nice dress and men in chinos / short chinos and shirts. Children all in proper PE uniform. It was so refreshing to see.

@IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos Try a good pair of jeans and you'll see. Not "fashion" jeans. Proper ones

Genuinely asking, which ones? I have Levi’s (the softer cotton comfort ones) and can no longer be bothered tolerating the waist. My DD has a range of other Levi’s styles (more traditional like 501/boyfriend etc) and said waist no better in any of those. She has Guess and Calvin Kleins otherwise and says they are just as bad. She prefers style jeggings (think they are called) that have jeans detailing but leggings style waists, even though they are detailed to look like jeans waist bands. Unfortunately, I am fat so can’t wear such an item as she can😁. I would very much like to go back to jeans though if there are ones with very comfy waists?

I think we should all be able to wear whatever we like. One thing I love about my office is how we can do exactly that. Everyone is respected as an individual with their own tastes. To be honest I wouldn't even care if my colleagues were wearing their PJs in meetings when WFH. It's irrelevant.

I genuinely couldn’t give a shit what people think about my appearance.

Sometimes I dress ultra feminine, sometimes I favour baggy sports wear.
I occasionally have pink hair but this week
it’s purple. Most of the time it’s platinum blonde.
I love make up but can go days without wearing it.

If you are judging my appearance then it says far more about you than me.

What bothers me is the recent trend of having kids wear their PE kit to school all day rather than change for the lesson. Although I appreciate the logistical challenges of getting 30 kids changed, I believe that part of physical education should be about the prep and then self care and hygiene routine after physical activities. Sitting in sweaty, muddy clothes all day is a horrible habit to teach them.

Agree with this

I agree with you!

I take great pride in deciding which Iron Maiden shirt to wear. Just came home from a weekend in Birmingham and Manchester. It was great to see the thousands upon thousands of people taking great pride in their choice of Maiden shirt.

I can’t stand stuck up, superficial idiots who think everyone should adhere to their choice of which bit of fabric to hide their nakedness with. Got better things to spend my money on than some overpriced landfill filler.

I love that these days, if you want to, you can dress up to the nines and if you don't want to you don't have to. I like the fact we are more liberated from dress codes.

And what has that to do with you exactly?

I defend the right of people to wear whatever they want. What I don't defend is judgemental people who seem to think that what they wear somehow makes them superior to others. How boring if everyone wore the same type of clothing all the time and the people wearing the clothes you seem to find so awful may very well be thinking the same about your choices.

I haven't worked in any job where that is appropriate. Even when I worked in a non customer facing office. I'd have been sent home for turning up dressed like that.

Most people I know are pleased that someone has made the effort to attend a funeral, and couldn't care less what they wear.

You are focussing on the wrong thing, and really, getting "annoyed" because someone dared to wear jeans to a funeral (not uncommon here) is just silly.

just because you haven’t worked in a jeans and T-shirt office job doesn’t mean they are particularly uncommon especially I suspect in tech ( where k was )

if they wanted smarter for an event a message was sent around. That happened two or three times in a long career

some of the managers kept a shirt and tie in their desk just in case

Oh women should wear clothes to show off their body? Fuck that - it’s mine to do with as I chose and to show off to whoever I chose

edit to add although if you can’t tell if someone is female form how they walk I am surprised

Fully agree. Sexist twaddle.

Why - would it affected your performance?

It has been fine in every job I've had. Currently I work in a public sector office and everyone including the director and lawyers etc. show up in jeans/shorts/jumpers. They throw on a blazer or dress up if there are really big meetings. As do I, if i have to present to the board. If im going to see internal clients then I throw on a nicer top
When I worked in private sector everyone wore jeans, summer dresses. When the CEO or bread of directors would show up then those attending the meetings would put on a suit.

I think how you dress is a reflection of your standards.

Up to a point. If you turn up for work dressed to look smart as opposed to being dressed practically for the job, that tells everyone you value appearance over substance.

Anyone is entitled to attend a funeral. The relatives of the deceased can make suggestions about dress, but they can't specify a dress code.

People don't exist to look your idea of "nice"

What year is this again?
Why does it matter to anyone what someone looks like from behind? Why do my clothes need to ‘do me justice’?
What I wear doesn’t determine my sex. I’m still a woman whatever I wear.
This stereotypical bullshit is so regressive.

I work for a very large, very well known finance company. Absolutely fine to be in jeans, t-shirt and trainers.

It's not that it's inappropriate, it's that they had strict dress codes

I worked in an office where we were all in jeans and slogan tees expect for the odd occasion where a client was coming in and we swapped out the slogan tees for smarter tops

Levi's soften after a bit. Guess and Calvin Klein I'd say are "fashion" jeans.

Next do some good ones that soften after a bit. They aren't always "cheap" but they aren't megabucks. You just have to try and work out what suits you, but not all jeans are stiff, and if they are then they aren't really jeans.

They're hard wearing, doesn't mean they have to be stiff.

I've been to funerals where people have had to come in their lunch break from work. They turned up in their work wear. Them being there was the important thing.
Should they have tried to find time to change as they rushed from work to the funeral and then back?

Their presence is the important thing as you say

And jeans are common

Absolutely. When my paternal grandfather died, several childhood neighbours of my mother, who had met my grandfather precisely once, at my parents wedding 20 years before, drove 40 miles to attend the removal (first part of an Irish funeral), and would have climbed out of their milking overalls when getting out of the car. They went to a huge amount of effort to attend for my mother’s sake. It’s about presence, not a dress code.