People no longer have pride In how they drsss.

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I've increasingly noticed that people are getting scruffier and scruffier in how they dress.

Some of the secretaries where I work come in, In trainers, band t shirts, coloured hair, loose fitting, cheap tops. I wouldn't do the garden in some of the outfits I see. They aren't typically patient facing but on occasion are. I think it really lacks professionalism to turn up scruffy to work.

Same for people out for an evening meal in jogging bottoms.

On Saturday we had sports day at school and every woman was in a nice dress and men in chinos / short chinos and shirts. Children all in proper PE uniform. It was so refreshing to see.

OP, are we talking Floral Midi Dresses?

Yes, we live in less formal times with regard to clothing, for all sorts of complex reasons. I welcome it very much.

I completely agree!
I love that women now have options and will dress for their comfort instead of conforming to what society believes is the right way to dress.

Don’t get me wrong, I love a glamorous outfit but I now feel that when I choose to dress that way it really is my choice because quite often a more casual look with chunky boots or trainers would have been acceptable too.

(obviously, it’s situation dependent and I factor the occasion in too!)

Exactly this! Your world and the world of those in band t-shirts and coloured hair may overlap, but you are not living the same life.

My mum always dressed really formally until I was probably in my late teens (mid- late 1990s) I don't think we'd ever seen her wear trousers til I was about 18!
I can clearly remember going on a walk, when I was maybe 5, where she had a dress and heels on and I have a photo of her at the park (children's playground) wearing heels. She wore heeled court shoes and mid calf legth skirts, while riding her bike. Even her "snow boots" had heels! 😳 I remember my auntie took us to the zoo wearing a dress and stilettos and falling over.

There's no way I'd even consider wearing heeled boots or shoes for any of those activities, as they just aren't practical, imo. I might wear a dress but would wear flat sandals or trainers with it.

Its never bothered me what anyone else wears.
I choose comfort over style.
Its the attitudes of people that i go for not what they are dressed in.

I agree OP, but you won't get many supporters here.

I absolutely judge people on their appearance - I couldn't care less about style of fashion but if someone is in a customer facing job they should be wearing clean, ironed (where applicable) clothes and cIean shoes (not scruffy trainers or knackered converse etc.) wouldn't even leave the house to pop to the shop without this as a bare minimum standard.

Speaking as someone who likes to "dress up" and is in a nice dress most of the time, including to pick up DD from school or go into the office, you sound absolutely insufferable.

@HarkerandBarker How about going to work with no knickers on? Would that be OK as long as you got your job done? Or nipples showing as you're more comfortable not wearing a bra? I suppose it depends on what job you do

Well, OP did not start a post saying it’s ridiculous the number of people at work who don’t wear undies and bend over while wearing skirts. They specifically posted about t-shirts, coloured hair, trainers and athletic wear. If they had of posted about nipples showing, then yes, they would have a point BUT it would be the same point if someone was in a blouse as in a t-shirt. So, we are working on the theory of everyone’s genitalia and mammaries being sorted and the only thing in dispute is what they are being covered with.

ANP here. I've not worn a uniform in over a decade.

Absolutely fascinating how many people have assumed that a complaint people are getting “scruffier and scruffier in how they dress” amounts to a personal attack on anyone who doesn’t wear smart casual to what is clearly a smart casual event.

Dressing for the occasion is a life skill. Turning up to court in a tracksuit &trainers; a wedding in ripped jeans and flip flops; or an interview for a professional services job in leggings and crocs says much more about you than it does about the person you are complaining is a hateful snob. And none of it is positive.

Mine was the same and would say 'suffer to be beautiful'.

I wore trainers in the evening at my own wedding! If I got married now I'd be wearing flat, comfortable shoes all day rather than heels. It was bad enough being uncomfortable at my wedding, sod doing it at anyone else's! The last reception I went to I wore a maxi dress and rose gold and white Air and Grace trainers.

Well, actually 🤔 if someone doesn't want to wear a bra is it her problem if it offends others? Imagining a world where tits fly free and people learn about bras from history books.

I have never worn heels. I never saw the point in having aching feet. Far better to wear a one or two inch smart shoe when required, keep them on and carry on smiling and having a good time. Discomfort shows in the face.

I wore very comfortable padded sole satin shoes with a 1.5 to 2 inch heel at my wedding. I wore flat courts, ballet pumps, loafers throughout the 80s and 90s.

As to comfort, as long as clothes fit properly and are the correct size, why should they be so uncomfortable? I really don't get why the idea of wearing anything not elasticated is so uncomfortable to people

But certain clothes are more comfortable than others. You can’t see how elasticated items would not be more comfortable?

I’ll always recall my grandmother. She was a lady who dressed up all her life. She wouldn’t even be caught opening her front door to a religious door knocker without her dress, stockings, shoes, hair, face done. In old age, her balance went, so to her ability to do buttons, zips etc. So, we got her tracksuit pants. She was amazed at such comfort and said she should have worn them every single day of her life. And then she literally did (even in summer as her circulation was so bad she always felt cold). There’s a life lesson.

She would have looked down on any woman wearing a pair of pants as being scruffy and not well presented no matter how nice the pants were, yet happily died in a pair of trackies.

I’m not a huge fan of brightly coloured hair but mostly because for every woman I see with shiny, vivid, healthy hair I see 100 with faded, ratty streaks with two inches of root showing.

one is lovely the other is not.

Oh do get over yourself. If you wanted to boast about your naice private school sports day with it’s tastefully turned out parents just say so directly.

If you really think some of the people at work look unprofessional then speak to the practice manager about getting a dress code agreed. Mind you some of the doctors receptionists who I have met who are well turned out on the surface turn out to be massive bitches/ wholly incompetent. I quite often find someone who looks a bit alternative to be more sympathetic and empathetic. And the surgeons all wear scrubs and crocs, not a worsted three-piece with a fob watch.

Trying on clothes is a real issue for me and i wonder if sometimes that's part of the problem about finding my fit

Locally our shops seem to have really ditched any form of petite/ plus size / maternity section to online only.

Equally a lot of the shops have either completely dissappeared from the high street, or now are much smaller/ stocking things like home and accessories in what used to be clothing space

It used to be that I'd go to somewhere like debenhams and try on 5 pairs of trousers and pick the best fitting. I'd of walked past lots for material

My trousers I'm wearing at the moment probably wouldn't have made that cut, mostly because the material isnt my preference. But I bought them online, don't have the money to buy 5 pairs to try on at home together and now lots of places charge to return so I kept them

I really miss being able to get a hands on experience with choice

Fashions have changed and diversified, you obviously preferr retro dressing. Good for you!

It took me a while to work out what a band t shirt is. For the record, I do not think tube tops are suitable attire for work (assumed that's what a band t shirt must be)

I was thinking more Nirvana or ACDC.

I think OP is a bit old fashioned.

You can look nice and put together without being in a floral dress.

Mental health nurses often don't wear a uniform. Breaks down the barriers between the professional and patient, so the patient feels more comfortable, able to build rapport better on an even footing.

I grew upon an era where we had to dress up for work - suits, blouses, heels etc. I’m now hybrid and the days im in the office and not interviewing candidates, I wear leggings, loose tops, trainers - and I’m still the same professional as when I dressed like a dense Gordon Gecko.

I still love dressing up for a night out but like most adults, have a wide variety of clothes and dress for myself

But certain clothes are more comfortable than others. You can’t see how elasticated items would not be more comfortable?

I have large boobs, always have had no matter what size the rest of me was. A stretchy or shirred top is so much better than something with no give. It's more comfortable and doesn't look as though I'm about to burst out of it!