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Is this grumpiness, early dementia or abuse?

108 replies

GrannyJJ · 22/06/2025 17:14

I have been with my male partner for 10 years. He’s 11 years older than me at 65. We started living together a couple of years ago and he retired last year. His dad had dementia starting in his 60s. These may be relevant facts - I don’t know.
We split up a few years ago for a while and got back together but I always felt like he had an anger towards me even when we got back together. Things aren’t terrible most of the time but my partner is generally grumpy and hyper sensitive to criticism. He’s got a personality of someone with adult adhd (am I looking for excuses - probably). I’ve therefore been careful not to criticise but yesterday he was painting the shed without a tarpaulin over the brand new porcelain garden tiles. Anyone else would probably scream - “cover the tiles up” but I knew he’d get angry if I said that so I simply went out and said “don’t forget the tarpaulin is round the side”. Well he flipped. In the garden. Threatened to ram the paint brush up my arse if I was going to criticise him. I wasn’t meek and mild in my response but that is the first time he’s ever threatened violence. He gets angry and annoyed and never apologises - I’m just too sensitive etc etc. Even when I said I want an apology he will say you’re always criticising me and you make me angry. But this was a line he crossed. Threatening me with violence and especially sexual violence is not grumpiness…

About 3 people over the years have actually said to me about how he speaks to me like a child at times and one mutual friend had a word with him about how it makes him feel uncomfortable. He was trying to criticise some words I was using - I was speaking in an accent but I’m not stupid. I’m far more educated than he is and now I realise he could actually be insecure about that as I’ve also recently been promoted whereas he has retired. His employer was concerned about his memory before he left - could it be dementia starting? Because half an hour later he will offer me a cup of tea like nothing has happened….
So am I being unreasonable in saying unless he apologizes and gets some help for his anger then I want him to leave?
He said he will move out as he’s fed up of me.
The house is in my name only. He’s contributed to a lot of developments in the house but I’d get a valuation of the property and give him half the value minus the outstanding mortgage (but it might not be as much as he put in). We were supposed to get married and he’d go on the mortgage so I think this is fair. Obviously I’ll get legal advice but I didn’t want to get the garden done - he insisted on most of the work getting done. I’ll give him half but no more.

please be gentle. I have always been somewhat too empathetic of others problems and let them treat me less than I deserve. Yeah his dad might have been awful to him but I don’t deserve to be spoken to disrespectfully. I daren’t tell my adult son as I’d be scared he would thump him - in fact I’m too ashamed to tell anyone.
But I’m glad I’ve told him he’s crossed a line - the grumpiness and criticism of me is one thing but threats of violence are not acceptable ever. He knows my dad was violent to me growing up.

thank you for being a safe space for me to share this.

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ReplacementBusService · 22/06/2025 17:21

HE will move out because HE is fed up with YOU? But HE threatened to ram a paintbrush up your arse and says YOU are overly sensitive.

Let him go, absolutely. Appreciate the dementia angle complicates what is happening here, but if you've had several years leading up to this and he won't acknowledge a problem, I don't see what else you can do. You sound very very fair about buying him out as well. It must be very hard but you're definitely not unreasonable! X

GrannyJJ · 22/06/2025 17:23

He also stood at the door yesterday after I parked up and called me when I was in the car saying “how long does it take you to get in the house? You’ve been parked and on your phone for ten minutes”
Im scared to say anything to anyone as when we broke up last time, a couple of people said they didn’t like the way he spoke to me. And I know that if I kick him out, he won’t try and sort things out - he will just go. The fact that I know that means I’m scared to force it. I can just about afford the house myself and I can pay him off when I get my early retirement lump sum in 18 months. I will move when the time is right for me but I can Airbnb a room to make up the bills I’m sure.
I sold my car recently but I am on a good bus route.. and the money I’m saving means I can afford the house myself.

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GrannyJJ · 22/06/2025 17:24

ReplacementBusService · 22/06/2025 17:21

HE will move out because HE is fed up with YOU? But HE threatened to ram a paintbrush up your arse and says YOU are overly sensitive.

Let him go, absolutely. Appreciate the dementia angle complicates what is happening here, but if you've had several years leading up to this and he won't acknowledge a problem, I don't see what else you can do. You sound very very fair about buying him out as well. It must be very hard but you're definitely not unreasonable! X

Thank you. I feel like I’m going insane - he said of course he didn’t mean it and it was because I made him so angry.

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ZippyPeer · 22/06/2025 17:33

You don't deserve to be treated like this.

Sounds like you and everyone who loves you will be happier once you end it. Hold on to that and do what you know you need to do.

Only thing to consider is that the most dangerous time for a woman is when they leave or make plans to leave. I know you think he will accept it (and you know him best), but just maybe something to factor in...

BellissimoGecko · 22/06/2025 17:39

You have nothing to be ashamed of here. Your angry man partner does. How dare he talk to you like that?!

You can end your relationship for any reason you want. You are strong enough to do that.

You deserve to live without being criticised and threatened with violence.

GrannyJJ · 22/06/2025 17:48

you have no idea that typing words to a stranger is helping so much. I don’t want my relationship to fail. I want him to admit he needs help and to rebuild it but if he can’t or won’t then I will walk away. He has been getting so much work done on the house - spending money that I actually didn’t want done. I’m scared that he will want more than half as he’s too old to get a mortgage now. I will get the house valued but the work we had done was as our house and not a loan from him. He can whistle for 18 months for the money to buy him out. It’s my retirement fund but I will be working on partial retirement so I will get the same wage almost even though I will reduce my hours to 3 days a week.

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AbzMoz · 22/06/2025 17:49

You absolutely need to make up your own mind that he should leave, and it sounds like you are nearly there. If you are…

The fact you’re afraid to tell your child or friends speaks volumes. You need to tell them that the man will be leaving by x date and can they be on hand to help with the logistics?

I think you first need to determine he will leave and then agree on settlement etc. you might need to contribute a deposit or first few months rent, either as a loan, gift or part of a balance you determine to be fair, but you need him out before the back and forth on the settlement.

a solicitor will likely advise you he isn’t entitled to much / anything. Some contribution might go some way to get him on his feet but you absolutely should not be feeling guilty about getting this one go.

PothasProblem · 22/06/2025 17:51

It's your house. You're not married. He's abusive. He decided to put money into redecorating/gardening and has benefited from it for the years he lived with you.

Tell him its over and change the locks. Don't give him a penny. Do not sell your house. You do not need to buy him out.

unsync · 22/06/2025 18:12

You are not married. You owe him nothing. Don't lose your housing security because of this arse of a man. He needs to go and I think you know this.

I often think that in posting the question here on MN, OPs are framing and then answering their own question. It's a way of saying it out loud without RL consequences.

Good luck @GrannyJJ and when he's gone, please get some counselling to deal with the aftermath of his abuse. 💐

GrannyJJ · 22/06/2025 18:14

PothasProblem · 22/06/2025 17:51

It's your house. You're not married. He's abusive. He decided to put money into redecorating/gardening and has benefited from it for the years he lived with you.

Tell him its over and change the locks. Don't give him a penny. Do not sell your house. You do not need to buy him out.

Morally I couldn’t do that - he has put about 80k in and I will give him that back. But I won’t get it for 18 months. The only way back from this is an apology and counselling on his part. And even then I am not sure. He is never ever going on my house deeds - he sold his flat to move in and still has cash to get somewhere else.

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Donttellempike · 22/06/2025 18:16

As you get older you will find it harder to cope with this behavior .You sound really reasonable snd he sounds like a bad tempered bully.

Kindly Op, the reasons why are not your problem to solve.

If the boot was on the other foot would he be giving you half the house?? Really?

Mulberryblackbird · 22/06/2025 18:19

This is classic abuse and so distressing to read. What a nightmare for you, living with that behaviour. It's understandably difficult, but I'm glad you're looking at how to free yourself.

Iwillclasptheeagain · 22/06/2025 18:20

Don't be a martyr and don't give him part of your asset. He would NOT do the same for you.

He's an abuser and he will make sure he is absolutely fine, don't you worry about that.

PothasProblem · 22/06/2025 18:36

GrannyJJ · 22/06/2025 18:14

Morally I couldn’t do that - he has put about 80k in and I will give him that back. But I won’t get it for 18 months. The only way back from this is an apology and counselling on his part. And even then I am not sure. He is never ever going on my house deeds - he sold his flat to move in and still has cash to get somewhere else.

Ok, I'll put my case forward with good morals.

He's spent 80k in how many years? on what exactly?

Which home improvements will have added value to your home? Did you want them to be done? Only consider those ones. (Redecorating doesn't add value. Building an extension does.) how much have we reduced that 80k by?

Did he contribute equally to the household costs (mortgage, insurance, utilities, food etc) if not, deduct those from the 80k

Did he contribute equally to the household chores? If not, how many hours a week do you spend washing, cleaning, cooking, shopping for food etc. Pay yourself £20 an hour for that and deduct that from the 80k

Do you think therapy would be benifical for you as you move forward, having been abused by this man? Let's say once a week for a year at £60 a session. Deduct that from the 80k

How much is left of that 80k now?

Personally I'd go get some therapy now, before you give him anything. You've been under his boot too long to see clearly. You need to be fair to yourself.

chatgptsbestmate · 22/06/2025 18:37

Oh my lord. Get rid of him. Call the Police should he be aggressive or abusive. Please stop being a martyr. You'll regret staying with this man and giving in to his abuse

GrannyJJ · 22/06/2025 18:53

PothasProblem · 22/06/2025 18:36

Ok, I'll put my case forward with good morals.

He's spent 80k in how many years? on what exactly?

Which home improvements will have added value to your home? Did you want them to be done? Only consider those ones. (Redecorating doesn't add value. Building an extension does.) how much have we reduced that 80k by?

Did he contribute equally to the household costs (mortgage, insurance, utilities, food etc) if not, deduct those from the 80k

Did he contribute equally to the household chores? If not, how many hours a week do you spend washing, cleaning, cooking, shopping for food etc. Pay yourself £20 an hour for that and deduct that from the 80k

Do you think therapy would be benifical for you as you move forward, having been abused by this man? Let's say once a week for a year at £60 a session. Deduct that from the 80k

How much is left of that 80k now?

Personally I'd go get some therapy now, before you give him anything. You've been under his boot too long to see clearly. You need to be fair to yourself.

We did get an extension - it was 50/50 til he wanted the garden done, the driveway and the fancy front door - all things we didnt need but that he wanted to impress folk with (actually I’ve just realised it’s all external). He probably has put in more than me in that sense but I have the responsibility of the mortgage. I pay the food though. We split the bills and mortgage although that’s not documented anywhere so it could be that he’s only paying food and his share of the bills and I pay all of the mortgage which is over 60k in payments since I moved here.
House is worth about 260-280k with a mortgage of 120k. However here in Scotland it would easy sell for over 320k - it’s in a desirable location and walk in condition. But if it values at 280k, I’d deduct the 120k mortgage and that leaves 160k so that’s where my 80k comes from. I can’t see any court demanding I sell so he maximizes his profits…

where do I “log” this abuse? I’m not wanting to see a solicitor yet. I was thinking about going to see my GP. Then it would be on record if he starts getting aggressive via solicitors. Whilst it’s abusive, I don’t think it’s anything serious to go to the police with. But I do want it to be logged.

I was also thinking I could remortgage to get his cash straight away. I have had a significant pay rise with my promotion and I can also work to 60… my early retirement plans were because he is a lot older. Although the thought of just working 3 days a week is appealing… and I can rent out a spare room too. My house divides nicely in half to keep my space private.

Thank you again for the kindness and wisdom you are showing me. I really appreciate it!

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GrannyJJ · 22/06/2025 18:56

chatgptsbestmate · 22/06/2025 18:37

Oh my lord. Get rid of him. Call the Police should he be aggressive or abusive. Please stop being a martyr. You'll regret staying with this man and giving in to his abuse

You know a lot of it is pride. What will folk think etc. But Tbh if I think about that angle, I’d respect someone who dumped someone at the first threat of violence.

but my nosey neighbour will ask where his car is. I shall say oh is it not there. It’s been stolen! 🤣

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Burntlemon · 22/06/2025 18:59

You are in a highly abusive relationship with a man who is highly manipulative.

He is living in your house, paying his rent to you by jobs.

Do not be silly offering anything.
Get on to Women's aid and get him out of your house.

Involve the police and your son if necessary.

Do not be so quick to make yourself homeless for an abusive man who is violent.

He threatened to seriously injure you.

Wake up to your reality.
Abuse thrives in secrecu and you are hiding his abuse like a dirty secret.

Tell the truth, you walk on eggshells, you are afraid of this violent man.

Get out while you can.

He will get a lot worse.
He will hurt you.
Don't be a statistic.

Burntlemon · 22/06/2025 19:04

He deliberately forced improvements.
This is your house.
Offer nothing at all.
Do not be foolish.

Do not be one of those silly women who end up without their home.
Agree to nothing.
He is abusing you in your home.
Tell your neighbour to mind her own business, walk away, do not answer any questions.

Level75 · 22/06/2025 19:07

Ask yourself, is this going to get any better?

If you know the answer, you know what to do...

insomniaclife · 22/06/2025 19:14

I have an adult adhd diagnosis. I get angry easily. But my god I feel terrible about this trait - I apologise and feel so ashamed. I’ve tried counselling inc anger counselling, the works, to try and change myself. And I have been quite successful in doing that. So my two penny’s worth is, it ain’t adhd hes suffering from but shitty man syndrome, for which no remedy is available

GrannyJJ · 22/06/2025 19:25

insomniaclife · 22/06/2025 19:14

I have an adult adhd diagnosis. I get angry easily. But my god I feel terrible about this trait - I apologise and feel so ashamed. I’ve tried counselling inc anger counselling, the works, to try and change myself. And I have been quite successful in doing that. So my two penny’s worth is, it ain’t adhd hes suffering from but shitty man syndrome, for which no remedy is available

Thank you so much for taking the time to reply. That helps enormously. X

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Fushia123 · 22/06/2025 19:28

Have you got anything to lose by getting some advice from a solicitor? I think that sharing what you’ve written here will help you to get some practical advice about what to do next, in fact a solicitor’s response could really help you to start the first steps to improve your difficult situation. I would also advise sharing the solicitor’s ideas with a close family member or friend. It’s time to widen your support network - those who already see the problems that you face daily will help to give you confidence and courage.

Endofyear · 22/06/2025 19:33

OP it seems like you are making excuses for and minimising his abusive behaviour. If several people have raised that they don't like the way he speaks to you - take note of that. They are obviously concerned that you are putting up with behaviour that you shouldn't.

Why do you want to save the relationship? Is it just fear of going through the break up and dealing with his reaction? Or is it fear of being alone? It doesn't sound like he is very nice to you which makes me wonder what there is about the relationship that you want to save?

If I were you I would tell him it's over and that he needs to leave. But only you can make that decision.

chatgptsbestmate · 22/06/2025 19:38

GrannyJJ · 22/06/2025 18:56

You know a lot of it is pride. What will folk think etc. But Tbh if I think about that angle, I’d respect someone who dumped someone at the first threat of violence.

but my nosey neighbour will ask where his car is. I shall say oh is it not there. It’s been stolen! 🤣

Pride? Be proud of yourself for keeping yourself safe from harm. Be proud of yourself for putting yourself first. Be proud of yourself for setting a good example. Be proud of yourself for treating yourself with respect so that you can be happy.

Tell your neighbour "all is well " 👍Your neighbour will be pleased that you're safe