The US has bombed Fordow and other sites.

[MistressoftheDarkSide]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/jun/22/israel-iran-war-live-trump-says-us-has-attacked-nuclear-sites-in-iran-including-fordow

I think we can all agree on that but they have allies who do have nuclear capabilities including North Korea and Pakistan. Escalating conflict will not make any of us safer.

Isn't worth what?
Are you suggesting that the US plus UK, France, etc should be attacking Iran based on what someone as crazy as Netanyahu has been saying for over 30 year?! It's worth risking a massive escalation of violence in the ME region and beyond? Iran will be emboldened in terms of making nuclear weapons as a result of this attack, not the other way around!

I did wonder what others might do and it was the one thing that would hesitate over but they have been very quiet on this and hopefully will remain so.

It's only "Murder" if it's deliberate.

Israel does not seek out civilian targets.

Hamas deliberately puts weapons below the civilian infrastructure using Gazans as "Human shields". But we always knew this didn't we?

Once Iran has it's capacity to wage war degraded they will stop bankrolling Hamas, who will fold and leave Gaza.

"There is no genocide.
Saying there is one doesn’t make it true."

A genocide is being live streamed to us day after day

You may not want them too but they are not a hostile country to the west and present no threat to the west and as far as I know Israel isn’t planting terror cells in UK cities - that is a key point of difference. The Islamic republic is a threat to our way of life and is a regime that murders women, hangs gay people and executes any opposition. The support on our streets for it baffles me.

I have worked for three UK government agencies
All had a list of announcements (at the FSA called the Shitlist) that are waiting for an opportunity like this to slip out when the news is occupied with other things
Every department has a Jo Moore and/or a Martin Sixsmith whose job includes "seizing opportunities to minimise negative public engagement"
The government might not have 'come together' with Trump over this¹, but they will take advantage of it

¹Although the bombers will probably have taken off from Diego Garcia, which would have required UK PM's approval - not Parliament's, of course)

And of course if the UK government had decided to restrict and blockade aid into N.Ireland country at the cost of many thousands of lives (to inflict universal punishment on the civilian population) - that would have been fine too! Though given his treatment and contempt for the civilian population Palestine I suspect Netanyahu would have approved of Britains murderous historical actions and policies against Ireland.

I'm intrigued as to how this fits in with Trump's tarrifs, borders, fentanyl,crumbling infrastructure,gas prices and ballooning US debt.

Read Article 5, then you'll understand
It's purely defensive, it's optional, and it only applies in the North Atlantic Theatre

That's nonsense.

Why don't you ask when Hamas (who are the government in Gaza) are going to feed their citizens ?

The international community has sent billions of dollars in aid to the Gaza Strip to provide relief to the more than 2 million Palestinians living there. From 2014 to 2020, U.N. agencies spent nearly $4.5 billion in Gaza, including $600 million in 2020 alone. According to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, aid to Palestinians totaled over $40 billion between 1994 and 2020.

Israel has allowed Qatar to give hundreds of millions of dollars in aid through Hamas, and Hamas has collected revenue for years by taxing imports.

Iran provides around $100 million annually to Hamas and other Palestinian groups.

Why is the the job of the West to feed Gazans?

¹Although the bombers will probably have taken off from Diego Garcia, which would have required UK PM's approval - not Parliament's, of course)

I believe they used the US Base at Guam.

While there was an appalling 11 week period where aid was stopped from entering Gaza it's worth noting about 100 trucks of aid are now going in daily and millions of meals are being distributed. Not that there aren't problems with the distribution (to understate the issue) but the Hamas health authority have reported 57 deaths from malnutrition since the start of the war, most of these in very elderly, very young or chronically ill people. 25 million in Sudan are in acute food instability right now with 750k in critical famine, and there are many other countries where populations are at critical levels of food insecurity and almost no aid is being sent. The Sudanese doctors organisation estimate 500,000+ infants have died of starvation there since the conflict began along with over 150,000 - 500,000 killed in the conflict and genocide overall. We seem to hear and talk so little about it despite the UAE and Saudi (who are directly funding and providing weapons to Sudan as part of the conflict) having trade relationships including arms deals with the UK.

Obviously two things can be awful at once it's just weird there's such constant focus on a much smaller conflict and so little on the far more extensive genocide being enabled by our allies and trading partners in Sudan.

<facepalm>
What flavour Koolaid have you been drinking?

100% agree with @Righteo

Various polls indicating Israeli attitudes to the genocide in Palestine and towards Palestinians:

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/majority-israelis-support-expulsion-palestinians-gaza-poll

Netanyahu has been saying Iran is weeks away from nuclear armament for decades, however, Trump's own cabinet was working closely with Iran and declared that they were not a nuclear threat - weeks ago! So which is true? Isreal has unknown nuclear weapons because it refused to sign up to the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Guess who signed up to it...Iran!

Netanyahu is the supreme threat to world peace. He is a genocidal warmonger. He has destabilised Isreal with his insane 'pre-emptive' strikes against Iran. Israelis are fleeing for their lives, because guess what, as a sovereign state that was attacked first, Iran has a right to defend itself

Israel has caused chaos and destruction in the middle east for decades.

Utterly delusional!

I totally agree @snowmichael
I guess all those posters cheering on Israel violence and the US decision to join in won't feel quite so Kool if and when this escalates into a more widespread conflict or when Iran decide to block The Straits of Hormuz, sending oil prices up massively.
Face palm, as you say.

> The IC continues to assess that Iran is not building a nuclear weapon and Supreme leader Khomeini has not authorized the nuclear weapons program that he suspended in 2003

You can't go around quoting facts to the deranged Trump supporters, they don't like (nor understand) them

I believe it's being reported the bombers flew directly from the US and were refuelled midair - it was previously reported they were being moved to Guam. Dont think the UK have been involved at this point.

Well quite.
The US, the UK, the EU clearly want 'distractions' from their own huge problems and unhappy populations.

a) Iran attacked Israel with over 300 missiles and drones in April 2024
b) "Netenyahu has already admitted arming terrorists in Gaza" Any proof of that?

Iran has spent the last 50 years bombing Israel. They have also been attacking commercial shipping in international waters. They fucked around, now they're finding out.

There's a reason that Iran is not popular with any of its neighbours.

Quoting Tulsi Gabbard! 😂

Guam is too far away and would involve overflying too many countries.

Flying from Diego Garcia would involve a straight NNW flight over the ocean.

The base is under the military control of the US so the PM would have been notified but they (US) don't need his permission.

Absolutely, so much concern about the houthis being Iranian proxies, what do we think will happen to shipping now?

The stupidity of it all is frightening.