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In garden chatting early. Aibu

173 replies

Seriouslywhatnow · 21/06/2025 11:28

Me and DH were sat in the garden at about 6.30am this morning chatting over a coffee. I don't think we were particularly loud - we weren't arguing or anything, just chatting. A neighbour looked out the window at us and DH got worried we were being annoying and made us go inside.
I feel like it's not often you can sit outside and have a coffee first thing because it's never usually warm enough. In fact this is the first time we've done it all year (and we were just chatting). But then it WAS 6.30am. thoughts please. Were we unreasonable given the time?
If it makes a difference we live on a reasonably main road. So there's always way more noise at the front.

OP posts:
mondaytosunday · 21/06/2025 14:40

My neighbours have young kids and I know they get up early but they are never outside before 7.30 or 8. Yrs it’s lovely to sit out but either sit there reading a book companionably or wait til 8. Your voice obviously DID disturb your neighbour.

smettings · 21/06/2025 14:40

Whether it's very early in the morning or very late at night people are in bed trying to sleep and as there's not much other noise sound carries. If you were keeping your voices very low that's OK but if you were at normal talking volume then you weren't IMO.
Our NDN have done this sort of thing and they are probably oblivious. We haven't complained because we like them but do we mind? Yes, a bit.

Trovindia · 21/06/2025 14:42

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 21/06/2025 11:46

Why does someone always say this, no matter what time the OP is talking about? 6.30 is surely, objectively, very early, especially on a weekend.

It’s not even unusual to live your life NEVER seeing that time, as many live near enough to work and school not to have to.

Its like saying “oh 1 am, that’s not very late” - i see 1 am most days but i know not everyone does.

This! I don't get up till 9am, I never see 6.30am but I often see midnight or later, but I wouldn't chat in my garden after 10pm as I'm considerate.

tallcurvey · 21/06/2025 14:44

If you did it every day yes might be annoying but not a one off. You have every right. Anyone who says different is just sad that they can’t afford a house away from everyone else. They are also miserable because they didn’t cool their house off so slept badly!

jeez my neighbour was jet washing at 7.00.
if he did every day it would be unacceptable but not a one off.

everybody who says different is simply wrong.

Burntlemon · 21/06/2025 14:48

I wouldn't do it out of consideration for tjose sleeping with windows open.

I would have a coffee out in the garddn early but not chat.

JuicyJules01 · 21/06/2025 14:50

Way too early, a lot of people have a lie in at the weekend. We don't start any gardening until after 9 at the weekend.

BatchCookBabe · 21/06/2025 15:15

WestwardHo1 · 21/06/2025 13:20

You clearly disturbed them and this may be the only lie in they get all week.

Such a reach. As someone else said, maybe they got up early for a wee, saw movement in the garden and looked out momentarily.

This thread is such MN craziness. A few quiet murmurings in the garden does not make someone RUDE AND INCONSIDERATE. If I had posted complaining that I live near a bypass and when the wind is from the east, I'm kept awake and woken up early by motorcyclists using it as a race track, I don't doubt that some MNers would have told me I should have bought a house on a island with no roads if I felt that strongly about a bit of traffic noise. Similarly I live near a farm and sometimes the tractors start at 5am - this is SO noisy and enraging, yet I expect some of you would have told me I shouldn't have bought a house near a farm.

Well yes, people would be in their rights to say you should not have bought a house near a farm. No-one can buy a house near a farm/farm fields and then whinge because of the 'tractor' noise. And people would be allowed to say 'don't buy a house near a buys by-pass if you're going to whinge about traffic noise.' That's like those absolute muppets who buy a house near a Church and then moan about the sound of the Church bells and the clock chiming.

Not sure what your point is. None of what you say is anything to do with the OP and her DH chatting under someone's bedroom window at 6.30am.

Happyher · 21/06/2025 16:06

cardibach · 21/06/2025 14:36

Windows won’t be closed though will they?! That’s kind of the point…

Then don’t complain if you can hear what’s going off outside. Everyone experiences more noise if they open their windows. Have you ever heard the dawn chorus. That used to wake me up about 4:30 every morning. It’s a lot louder than 2 people talking. Should we tell the birds to shut up when it’s hot?

cardibach · 21/06/2025 16:15

Happyher · 21/06/2025 16:06

Then don’t complain if you can hear what’s going off outside. Everyone experiences more noise if they open their windows. Have you ever heard the dawn chorus. That used to wake me up about 4:30 every morning. It’s a lot louder than 2 people talking. Should we tell the birds to shut up when it’s hot?

The point is that when you know everyone has their windows open you should be considerate about the fact they’ll hear more. Birds tweeting is natural. People choosing to chat more or less under a neighbour’s open bedroom window is not.
As it happens, I’m not particularly noise sensitive - but for me (and most people) words are harder to ignore than other sounds as your brain is trained to tune into them.

AffableApple · 21/06/2025 16:21

Seriouslywhatnow · 21/06/2025 11:28

Me and DH were sat in the garden at about 6.30am this morning chatting over a coffee. I don't think we were particularly loud - we weren't arguing or anything, just chatting. A neighbour looked out the window at us and DH got worried we were being annoying and made us go inside.
I feel like it's not often you can sit outside and have a coffee first thing because it's never usually warm enough. In fact this is the first time we've done it all year (and we were just chatting). But then it WAS 6.30am. thoughts please. Were we unreasonable given the time?
If it makes a difference we live on a reasonably main road. So there's always way more noise at the front.

Sit outside, have a coffee, enjoy the warmth of a summer morning. But should you have been talking?

Think about where you were sitting and the layout of your neighbour's house. Do you think nattering away at 0630 was fair? Only you, who also knows how sound carries in your area, can answer that honestly. (And be aware your perception could be wrong, and you woke your neighbour as you were right near their bed.)

RichHolidayPoorHoliday · 21/06/2025 16:31

SatsumaDog · 21/06/2025 13:36

Many people on Mumsnet have no issue with neighbours making noise and chatting in their gardens into the late evening. Those who are trying to sleep at that time are told they need to suck it up and wear ear plugs! They are enjoying their gardens apparently, which is also what you were doing.

However, I do think that YABU. It’s fair to say that many people will be sleeping at that time on a Saturday. Noise travels easily and although you weren’t trying to be loud, you clearly woke your neighbour. I would be with your DH on this, sorry.

I think if it's just "chatting" quietly, it's much less painful in the evening. You fall asleep with the voices in the background.

In the morning, it's a sudden noise that will wake you up.

Either way, 6.30am is ridiculously rude.

RichHolidayPoorHoliday · 21/06/2025 16:32

A few quiet murmurings in the garden does not make someone RUDE AND INCONSIDERATE.

a few quiet murmurings won't wake anyone up. If the neighbours were bothered, it wasn't so quiet was it.

AgnesX · 21/06/2025 16:38

I think it depends on your definition of quietly chatting and probably the size of your garden/space too.

Allergycream · 21/06/2025 17:01

My neighbours both side can be up at 5am chatting in their gardens.
It dont wake me or disturb me either.
There not loud just nit nattering.
There is a difference with just chatting and being overly loud.
The wost are school mums and kids and barking dogs from 7am in the morning.

cardibach · 21/06/2025 17:04

Allergycream · 21/06/2025 17:01

My neighbours both side can be up at 5am chatting in their gardens.
It dont wake me or disturb me either.
There not loud just nit nattering.
There is a difference with just chatting and being overly loud.
The wost are school mums and kids and barking dogs from 7am in the morning.

How do you know they are doing it then?

Allergycream · 21/06/2025 17:36

cardibach · 21/06/2025 17:04

How do you know they are doing it then?

Because i work nights i get home at around 4 - 4.30 am.

WestwardHo1 · 21/06/2025 17:40

BatchCookBabe · 21/06/2025 15:15

Well yes, people would be in their rights to say you should not have bought a house near a farm. No-one can buy a house near a farm/farm fields and then whinge because of the 'tractor' noise. And people would be allowed to say 'don't buy a house near a buys by-pass if you're going to whinge about traffic noise.' That's like those absolute muppets who buy a house near a Church and then moan about the sound of the Church bells and the clock chiming.

Not sure what your point is. None of what you say is anything to do with the OP and her DH chatting under someone's bedroom window at 6.30am.

Edited

Yeah but that's the point. I DON'T whinge because I bought a house near farmland. I do say to myself "I wish those bastard contractors would slow the fuck down and stop driving like absolute muppets" but that's by the by.

However, the OP was chatting at low tones in the garden with her DH. There's nothing to indicate she is selfish and inconsiderate, as people are accusing her. There is nothing to indicate she woke the neighbour up other than the neighbour was up at the same time and glanced out of the window.

Some of the responses on here are just nuts.

cardibach · 21/06/2025 17:41

Allergycream · 21/06/2025 17:36

Because i work nights i get home at around 4 - 4.30 am.

Do they know this? If so they know you won’t be asleep…

I don’t think it’s very common behaviour though.

Allergycream · 21/06/2025 17:44

cardibach · 21/06/2025 17:41

Do they know this? If so they know you won’t be asleep…

I don’t think it’s very common behaviour though.

Edited

They see me walk in sometimes but them chatting dont bother me at all.
Its not overly loud.

cardibach · 21/06/2025 17:52

Allergycream · 21/06/2025 17:44

They see me walk in sometimes but them chatting dont bother me at all.
Its not overly loud.

That something doesn’t bother you doesn’t make it ok (or not) generally. My neighbour watches tv loudly in her bedroom (not so bad in winter when it’s more of a blurred sound, but in summer with her window open - even if mine is closed - I can actually hear the dialogue). Doesn’t bother me much as I’m not hugely sensitive to noise. It would bother many people though, and it’s objectively thoughtless. Go downstairs to watch if you want it loud.

Allergycream · 21/06/2025 18:05

cardibach · 21/06/2025 17:52

That something doesn’t bother you doesn’t make it ok (or not) generally. My neighbour watches tv loudly in her bedroom (not so bad in winter when it’s more of a blurred sound, but in summer with her window open - even if mine is closed - I can actually hear the dialogue). Doesn’t bother me much as I’m not hugely sensitive to noise. It would bother many people though, and it’s objectively thoughtless. Go downstairs to watch if you want it loud.

Yes but this is not a loud tv its people quietly talking in their own gardens.

cardibach · 21/06/2025 18:13

Allergycream · 21/06/2025 18:05

Yes but this is not a loud tv its people quietly talking in their own gardens.

It’s someone doing something which might disturb others at an anti social time when there’s an alternative.

mumda · 21/06/2025 18:32

RichHolidayPoorHoliday · 21/06/2025 13:22

huh?

what does it have anything to do with anything? Aren't your shops open, your mail delivered, your dentist - even GP, opened? There are more people working on Saturdays than not!

Well go sit outside them at work.

Saturday is Saturday.

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