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In garden chatting early. Aibu

173 replies

Seriouslywhatnow · 21/06/2025 11:28

Me and DH were sat in the garden at about 6.30am this morning chatting over a coffee. I don't think we were particularly loud - we weren't arguing or anything, just chatting. A neighbour looked out the window at us and DH got worried we were being annoying and made us go inside.
I feel like it's not often you can sit outside and have a coffee first thing because it's never usually warm enough. In fact this is the first time we've done it all year (and we were just chatting). But then it WAS 6.30am. thoughts please. Were we unreasonable given the time?
If it makes a difference we live on a reasonably main road. So there's always way more noise at the front.

OP posts:
RichHolidayPoorHoliday · 21/06/2025 13:05

TeaCupTornado · 21/06/2025 12:45

A weekday, I'd say ok. Weekend morning I think yabu.

6.30 is bloody early even on a weekday!

cardibach · 21/06/2025 13:06

Happyher · 21/06/2025 11:50

I think it’s fine. I’m up @6:00am on week days. If I heard someone chatting outside that early I would probably have a look who it was to make sure they weren’t up to no good. Maybe that all the neighbour was doing

It’s not a weekday. People like to sleep in precisely because they have to be up early on weekdays.

Flossflower · 21/06/2025 13:07

If you are in the UK, making a noise in hours outside of 7am to 11pm is considered unsociable. You can’t honk a horn before 7.00am. However, at the weekend, I would give people a time for a lie in. Loud building work should not, legally, start before 8.00am. People on here , who are up early, saying it is OK have to accept that they are not in tune with the rest of the country and its laws.

mumda · 21/06/2025 13:10

yestothat · 21/06/2025 11:33

I think it fine to sit outside and chat quietly in your own garden at and time tbh.
lots of people are up at 6.30 for work or just by choice and they can’t be expected to live in silence

You do know it's Saturday?

BatchCookBabe · 21/06/2025 13:11

YABU. (A bit) @Seriouslywhatnow That is too early to be chatting under peoples windows in the garden with your morning coffee. If it was the first time this year though, I wouldn't be getting worked up about it if I was the neighbour. If it kept happening I wouldn't be so chuffed!

cardibach · 21/06/2025 13:11

WaltzingWaters · 21/06/2025 13:02

Quiet chat is fine.

The neighbour could clearly hear it, so it was too loud for that time in the morning.

shuggles · 21/06/2025 13:13

@Seriouslywhatnow Were we unreasonable given the time?

Yes

If it makes a difference we live on a reasonably main road. So there's always way more noise at the front.

Traffic noise is 'white noise' that our brains are able to filter out more easily and sleep through. Human speech is different and can disturb people.

whackamole666 · 21/06/2025 13:15

Redpeach · 21/06/2025 12:34

The same time that noisy work is allowed to start due to local council guudelines? 8am?

We live under the flight path and they allow planes in around 6am. Now that's noisy!

TubeScreamer · 21/06/2025 13:15

Far too early.

Redpeach · 21/06/2025 13:17

ToadRage · 21/06/2025 12:45

My husband is a naturally early riser (5.45am), me not so much. He likes to put the radio on and have a coffee out on our deck in the morning, he may even get in the hot tub if he is so inclined, all before i am awake, no one has even complained. It's your garden, do whatever the hell you like. We get on well with our neighbours, always say hello and have chat over the fence, let her use my washing machine when hers broke and she came and joined us for a glass of wine on our deck one evening. Being a good neighbour is important but they shouldn't stop you form enjoying your own space on your own time. We spend a lot of time outside in the summer and would hate think i had to go inside to avoid annoying my neighbours.

Edited

Just because your neighbours haven't complained doesnt mean your sunrise hot tub dh is right

WestwardHo1 · 21/06/2025 13:20

You clearly disturbed them and this may be the only lie in they get all week.

Such a reach. As someone else said, maybe they got up early for a wee, saw movement in the garden and looked out momentarily.

This thread is such MN craziness. A few quiet murmurings in the garden does not make someone RUDE AND INCONSIDERATE. If I had posted complaining that I live near a bypass and when the wind is from the east, I'm kept awake and woken up early by motorcyclists using it as a race track, I don't doubt that some MNers would have told me I should have bought a house on a island with no roads if I felt that strongly about a bit of traffic noise. Similarly I live near a farm and sometimes the tractors start at 5am - this is SO noisy and enraging, yet I expect some of you would have told me I shouldn't have bought a house near a farm.

MorrisZapp · 21/06/2025 13:20

I'm just in awe you can think of things to say to your husband at 6.30 am.

RichHolidayPoorHoliday · 21/06/2025 13:22

mumda · 21/06/2025 13:10

You do know it's Saturday?

huh?

what does it have anything to do with anything? Aren't your shops open, your mail delivered, your dentist - even GP, opened? There are more people working on Saturdays than not!

RichHolidayPoorHoliday · 21/06/2025 13:24

MorrisZapp · 21/06/2025 13:20

I'm just in awe you can think of things to say to your husband at 6.30 am.

😂😂

I can imagine the conversation: Listen how quiet it is dear, you can't hear a sound, it's so lovely, peaceful when there are no noise around at all.
it was until you started speaking JANET

Rhinohides · 21/06/2025 13:25

630 is early. Today is also the weekend and this is the only time some of us have to lie in.
I leave the house around that time Monday to Friday and I make sure my radio is off and try to go quietly. If on my days off my neighbours did not show me equal consideration at that time, may reevaluate my approach.
Bottom line is we all have to live together and so treat others with the respect you think you deserve

SirRaymondClench · 21/06/2025 13:28

I'm up at 6 every morning for work and so is DH so I'm used to being up at that time.

But we wouldn't dream of sitting outside blethering at that time because we are considerate of our neighbours and the fact that it's Saturday and people deserve some peace and quiet and to have a lie in if they like.
What's wrong with society these days is the selfish mentality that just because you want to do something you should do it regardless of anyone else and if they don't like it they should basically go fuck themselves.

We used to be considerate of others in society and that's missing in this elbows out culture.
If you want to sit out blethering at that time OP then move to the countryside.

Dominoeffecter · 21/06/2025 13:32

That’s rude and annoying

PiggyPigalle · 21/06/2025 13:34

As it's already noisy at the front, sit out there and chat at 6.30 am.

notacooldad · 21/06/2025 13:34

I think it fine to sit outside and chat quietly in your own garden at and time tbh.
lots of people are up at 6.30 for work or just by choice and they can’t be expected to live in silence

You think its fine to wake other people up at 06:30 on a Saturday morning. No one is expecting silence but a bit of consideration.
I would be mad. I didn't get home from work until nearly midnight (supposed to finish at 11pm but had a missing child case that I had to do paperwork for so didn't leave work until 11:40pm.)
By the time I had got home, decompressed it was 1.00am. I do not want selfish people nattering and waking me up. If it was around 8am, and im still grumpy, that's on me because that's a reasonable time.

LakieLady · 21/06/2025 13:35

I'd love to live somewhere it was possible to sleep past 6.30am.

The lad across the road leaves for work at 6.15 every Saturday and his motorbike starting wakes me up even when all the windows are shut. His dad often works on a Saturday morning and starts up his noisy diesel van bloody early. And the last couple of days, the dog walkers have been going out very early before it gets too hot, and there's often a couple that will stop and chat close to my house. My NDN gets a lift to work at 6.40 am, Tues-Sat and her husband's diesel Golf sounds like someone shaking a sack full of spanners.

Two people quietly chatting in their garden wouldn't bother me at all, especially as I sleep in the front of the house.

SatsumaDog · 21/06/2025 13:36

Many people on Mumsnet have no issue with neighbours making noise and chatting in their gardens into the late evening. Those who are trying to sleep at that time are told they need to suck it up and wear ear plugs! They are enjoying their gardens apparently, which is also what you were doing.

However, I do think that YABU. It’s fair to say that many people will be sleeping at that time on a Saturday. Noise travels easily and although you weren’t trying to be loud, you clearly woke your neighbour. I would be with your DH on this, sorry.

Braygirlnow · 21/06/2025 13:37

Boredlass · 21/06/2025 11:35

It’s fine. It’s not that early

6.30 is early, stop with the "oh I get up at 5am every weekend and have the house cleaned from top to bottom by 8am then go on a 10 mile hike before brunch". It's the weekend some people only get the wkend to catchup on sleep, and as neighbour looked out they obviously were talking loud enough to disturb them...I'd keep the chat down until after 8am.

notacooldad · 21/06/2025 13:38

what does it have anything to do with anything? Aren't your shops open, your mail delivered, your dentist - even GP, opened? There are more people working on Saturdays than not!

Those things dont generally open until 09:00. Even the people working there probably wouldn't have to get up at 6.30 and if they did i guess wouldn't be sat outside having a good old natter like they've got nothing else to do at that time if the morning

Asabat · 21/06/2025 13:40

It's almost worse when it's otherwise very quiet and peaceful. There is so little quiet time in a day, that someone chuntering on that early would really piss me off, asleep or not.

It's also right under someone's bedroom window.

Ewock · 21/06/2025 13:40

Seriouslywhatnow · 21/06/2025 12:32

Ha! This is a bit of an over reaction surely? We did it once ever and as soon as we realised we went in 😆
And weekend or not makes no difference to this particular neighbour I don't think, as they're retired. But we've taken it onboard and won't be outside so early in future.

See I dont get how ypu wouldn't already know that's antisocial. In this weather everyone's got windows wide open, voices travel. So thoughtless for others around. And you seem to think it's amusing.