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In garden chatting early. Aibu

173 replies

Seriouslywhatnow · 21/06/2025 11:28

Me and DH were sat in the garden at about 6.30am this morning chatting over a coffee. I don't think we were particularly loud - we weren't arguing or anything, just chatting. A neighbour looked out the window at us and DH got worried we were being annoying and made us go inside.
I feel like it's not often you can sit outside and have a coffee first thing because it's never usually warm enough. In fact this is the first time we've done it all year (and we were just chatting). But then it WAS 6.30am. thoughts please. Were we unreasonable given the time?
If it makes a difference we live on a reasonably main road. So there's always way more noise at the front.

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AnneElliott · 21/06/2025 13:42

As long as you’re chatting quietly it’s fine. We have dog walkers that come by at 6am and literally boom out greetings to other dog walkers on the other side of the road! Now that’s what I think is rude!

lessglittermoremud · 21/06/2025 13:43

I’m an early riser up at 6am Mon- Fri, but on a weekend our rule is no one (dogs or kids) are allowed outside in the garden before 7.45
We live in a terrace and both my neighbours have to get up early in the week as well. I know one side in particular likes to sleep in so I’ve told the children to stay in their rooms and quietly watch tv etc until at least 7.30, I certainly wouldn’t be sat outside at the time unless I was on my own just enjoying a coffee in the peace and quiet of the morning.

feelingbleh · 21/06/2025 13:44

Yanbu people seriously need to learn to sleep through noise or move somewhere rural. I actually find birds more irritating then people but we all have to share one planet. I was outside early this morning as my house is like an oven I don't see how anyone could get annoyed at this aslong as you wasn't playing music or doing one of them fake loud laughs people do otherwise enjoy your garden as this weather will soon be gone

notacooldad · 21/06/2025 13:45

As long as you’re chatting quietly it’s fine.
Well it doesn't look like they were that quiet otherwise the neighbour wouldnt have come round window. He clearly had been disturbed by them

Happyher · 21/06/2025 13:47

cardibach · 21/06/2025 13:06

It’s not a weekday. People like to sleep in precisely because they have to be up early on weekdays.

And some people’s life styles mean getting up early all days means they may want to have a coffee and a quiet chat in the garden when it’s nice. Think shift workers, police, NHS staff, cleaners, shop workers etc. If quiet chatting annoys you close your windows

feelingbleh · 21/06/2025 13:47

notacooldad · 21/06/2025 13:45

As long as you’re chatting quietly it’s fine.
Well it doesn't look like they were that quiet otherwise the neighbour wouldnt have come round window. He clearly had been disturbed by them

Doesn't mean they wasn't quiet some people are just really oversensitive to noises and smells etc it doesn't mean others have to alter their life for it

Dominoeffecter · 21/06/2025 13:49

Happyher · 21/06/2025 13:47

And some people’s life styles mean getting up early all days means they may want to have a coffee and a quiet chat in the garden when it’s nice. Think shift workers, police, NHS staff, cleaners, shop workers etc. If quiet chatting annoys you close your windows

In this heat??

DriveMeCrazy1974 · 21/06/2025 13:53

I'm a really early riser, but, I hate noise first thing in the morning. I'd be really annoyed if people were outside talking. If you were loud enough that somebody looked out, you were not as quiet as you think you are and should have waited until later to go out and have your coffee.

Ellsternell · 21/06/2025 13:56

Is there an option where you could have the chairs at the bottom end of the garden and talk quietly there? I can’t imagine this bothering me to be honest but it depends how close you are to neighbours windows and how loud you talk. On the other hand we get woken up by a dog barking from several houses down every morning which is much more annoying!

starshollowtownselectman · 21/06/2025 13:56

It drives me mad that people do anything on a weekend early. All the retired men around me are up and mowing the grass at 8.30/9am on a Saturday and Sunday. Yes on a week day that’s not early but on a weekend when I’ve worked all week I want a lie in or at the least a bloody quiet morning. 6.30am would piss me off.

Rewis · 21/06/2025 13:57

RichHolidayPoorHoliday · 21/06/2025 12:24

thankfully many people have more manners and consideration and don't "chat" and be a nuisance at ridiculous times. I am so glad you are not my neighbour.

I don't chat outside early hours. I don't wake early during weekends (or week for that matter). I do think neighbours should be considerate and I find the neighbours who woke me up at 4am causing to change bedrooms to be absolute twats And i will hate on anyone making noise before 10am and after 11pm (for someone else the hours are different and i have to accept it happens, but i can still quietly hate on it). BUT I also think that chatting in your own garden is allowed and I have to tolerate it and i am entitled to same. I wish people wouldn't but I don't think I'm entitled to go complain. I don't, cause Im never awake at that time, let alone have a desire to have a conversation.

dottiedodah · 21/06/2025 13:59

I think it is too early really yes . I am normally awake by then ,but many arent. Lots of people have to work, and enjoy a lie in on weekends .Why not have a coffee by the window listen to the radio ,and go outdoors around 8am? I think this would be a more acceptable time

DiscoBob · 21/06/2025 14:01

Reasonable daytime noise rules start at 8am I think...but I guess you're not running an angle grinder.
Just be aware that people can hear your private conversation and it's woken them up. It's reasonable to ask someone to keep the noise down that early. Presumably the person complaining was previously asleep so you must have been quite loud.

Ifeellikeateenageragain · 21/06/2025 14:01

With the previous night being so warm most people will have slept with windows open. So your neighbour's windows will probably have been open and I'm guessing the level of traffic at 6.30 on a Saturday was nowhere near loud to mask your voices.

Your DH was right

cardibach · 21/06/2025 14:05

Happyher · 21/06/2025 13:47

And some people’s life styles mean getting up early all days means they may want to have a coffee and a quiet chat in the garden when it’s nice. Think shift workers, police, NHS staff, cleaners, shop workers etc. If quiet chatting annoys you close your windows

Whatever your personal timetable, it’s anti social to make a noise at a time those around you are sleeping. I used to work in a private school which had Saturday morning lessons. I was more conscious of leaving quietly on Saturdays because I knew my neighbours would be sleeping.

LilacPony · 21/06/2025 14:09

Way too early on a weekend. Most people appreciate the weekend for not being woken up so early and getting a longer sleep. Don’t let my kids make noise in the garden until 9am on the weekend

Isobel201 · 21/06/2025 14:11

The neighbour wasn't openly complaining though, it was just your husband assuming. Chatting quietly would carry noise a lot further than normal at 6:30am, so just a little consideration. Doesn't mean you can't sit out in the garden at that time.

stringsoup · 21/06/2025 14:22

If they're older and retired maybe they were up anyway and just looked out to see what was happening...... if so I'd ask them if they were disturbed and continue if they weren't

cardibach · 21/06/2025 14:24

stringsoup · 21/06/2025 14:22

If they're older and retired maybe they were up anyway and just looked out to see what was happening...... if so I'd ask them if they were disturbed and continue if they weren't

The assumption that a retired person shouldn’t care about weekend lie-in time is weird. Maybe they sleep later every day. Maybe they still have weekday commitments that mean getting up early.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 21/06/2025 14:25

whackamole666 · 21/06/2025 12:29

What time is ok to start chatting?

As I said up thread, I think 8.30 on a weekend is about the earliest it’s ok to start making noise, maybe 9.

Anything before that isn’t ok.

You wouldn’t thank someone for sitting out chatting at 1 am, I’m guessing.

I think 11- 8.30 should be quiet.

(I mean we wouldn’t be outside making noise after about 8 pm but I realise that would be silly early to restrict others)

Happyher · 21/06/2025 14:29

cardibach · 21/06/2025 14:05

Whatever your personal timetable, it’s anti social to make a noise at a time those around you are sleeping. I used to work in a private school which had Saturday morning lessons. I was more conscious of leaving quietly on Saturdays because I knew my neighbours would be sleeping.

I don’t think talking quietly outside early in the morning is anti social at all. If windows are closed you’ll hardly hear it. The garden in summer at dawn is a beautiful place for those lucky enough to be up early

Venturini · 21/06/2025 14:30

Way too early for the weekend. Sit and enjoy in silence or wait until 8.30 minimum.

stringsoup · 21/06/2025 14:30

cardibach · 21/06/2025 14:24

The assumption that a retired person shouldn’t care about weekend lie-in time is weird. Maybe they sleep later every day. Maybe they still have weekday commitments that mean getting up early.

I think you must have missed the maybe...

cardibach · 21/06/2025 14:36

Happyher · 21/06/2025 14:29

I don’t think talking quietly outside early in the morning is anti social at all. If windows are closed you’ll hardly hear it. The garden in summer at dawn is a beautiful place for those lucky enough to be up early

Windows won’t be closed though will they?! That’s kind of the point…

cardibach · 21/06/2025 14:37

stringsoup · 21/06/2025 14:30

I think you must have missed the maybe...

I was musing based on a comment earlier about retired people as well, not just yours. There seems to be this perception that retired people either can sleep in every day or don’t sleep well anyway. It’s not true in many, many cases.