Wasting NHS resources

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn0q2z725llo
If you are fool or vain enough to have weird stuff injected into your face why should the NHS be wasting money on this.
AIBU - Yes the NHS should be there for ABSOLUTLY every medical requirement.
YANBU - People like this should be charged for their treatment as it was self inflicted.

I used to work in a kid's hospital, and in the out patients department they had the amount of missed appointments on full display on a board in the waiting room.
Hundreds every month.

I think as long as the NHS works as it does now, it has to cover things like this.

I do think they should make it very clear to consumers of beauty treatments that they are not medicine and the results are very much at their own risk, if it leaves you looking strange or with a less functional face.

I do think we could make an argument that the NHS model leads to a tendency to take things for granted and people don't feel as they ought for their own decisions. And maybe a system where people need to pay in in various ways for some things would be better. There are civilised countries out there that are not like the US, but where people have somewhat more direct responsibility for their own care.

I think the medical beauty industry is something that needs to be looked at closely. I think it should really be quite separate from the medical system. So for example, they need to train their own practitioners, regulate them, doctors should not be able to provide treatments like that and remain practising doctors, etc.

and they all add up wasted resources etc,

Yep.
I am not against a system where you pay for an appointment, and if you actually turn up, it is refunded to you.

thats true, and a good point like redeeming a travel expense at work etc

If the outcome of the bodged procedure is solely that the person doesn't look nice or looks different to how they want, then no, it's not an NHS matter..

If the surgery resulted in an actual illness or medical problems that could endanger someone's life untreated, then yes it is their job.

They can't just turn someone away to die. Once the problem relates to something more serious the initial surgeon wouldn't have the expertise or equipment to deal with it anyway.

People who use steroids, self harm, addicts, the obese- these people are unwell through lifestyle choices/MH issues but they are still unwell. And anyone unwell who's a British citizen is entitled to medical care on the NHS.

From kids with saucepans stuck on their heads to men with shampoo bottles stuck up their arses.
Judgement is an added layer of beaurocracy that A&E triage staff could probably do without.

I have private medical insurance and I go to the gym three times a week. Will the NHS give me a cheque each year for the money I’m potentially saving the system? Of course it won’t! That’s not how it works. It’s there for everyone. All of us are going to get ill at some stage and need medical help - because we all suffer wear and tear. In the case of the beauty treatment it was still an accident. She didn’t have it meaning to get ill.

As others have said though where is the line drawn? People make choices every day that come with a risk - I will get into my car later and drive but I don’t think anyone would argue I shouldn’t be treated if in a crash?

^^ this.

I used to think like this, but where do we draw the line?
Horse riders breaking limbs? They chose to get on a horse, after all. Same with skiers, bike riders, football injuries…
A lot of us do things by choice that are inherently risky.

the difference is those scenarios are not as a result of botched private cosmetic procedures

Me too

All those scenarios are the result of some risk taking. With the exception of obesity which is a more complicated condition resulting from everyday life. So either everyone has private medical insurance - the opposite of having an NHS - or we continue as we are.

How will you charge for the missed appointments when they can’t even bother to turn up?

Let’s refuse drunks and fat people healthcare then.

I agree. Whoever did the procedure in the first place should be made to pay.

And in the case of seeking cheap private treatment abroad, people should be made to take out extra insurance. So costs can be recovered if things go wrong.

I think there needs to be a line between normal activities like sports and illness like addiction in comparison to getting surgery done voluntary.

Yes definitely this!

I very much agree. Or a 'charge' is put on someone's card, like when toy go to some hotels and they put a hold on a specific amount of money on your account in case if any danage, and then it's not processed unless there is an issue. I would include both non attendance and abusive behaviour towards staff under this

I work in paediatrics and the amount of wasted appointments is ridiculous. We send letters, text reminders, and even have an admin doing phone calls for some of our most pressured clinics, but people still 'forget'. It's a waste of our time and resources and most importantly makes other children wait longer.

When a referral is made,a person has to put down a deposit before the referral is accepted.

This wasn't botched. The botox used on them was illegal and they weren't to know.

Some cancers can be hereditary, same for things like high blood pressure. Should some parents not reproduce?

the difference is those scenarios are not as a result of botched private cosmetic procedures

That isn't what happened. What about addicts who drink shit they shouldn't?

And a big part of the problem with things like addiction, obesity. depression etc is socioeconomic factors.

There are ways to cut wastage in the NHS without refusing people treatment. Missed appointments, unnecessary repeat prescriptions, equipment discarded when it could be reused….