Showing support for terrorism is illegal so why do people do it?

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Well we all know it's illegal, don't we?

It happens though. The flags, the signs, the slogans, the chants, what is said etc.

Kneecap was charged on supporting terrorism. I understand that the charges relate to things like waving the Hezbollah flag and shouting in support of terrorist organisations.

He has been bailed pending trial.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy4k4xnlj8qo

You have literally no idea what you are talking about. When was the last time a woman in the UK was arrested for dancing? Or not wearing a Hijab? etc. And by arrested I mean disappeared and most likely raped/tortured.

Comparing a hard line muslim country to a western country is breathtaking ignorance.

I agree with you!!!

The only reason I say I don’t think the west should get involved at times, is because of the loss of lives to the soldiers, fighting something that will sadly never be won. I was thinking Afghanistan, they were there 20 years and it was a better place for the people there because of it, such as womens rights were much better, but no sooner did the last plane leave, than the extremists crawled out of their mountains and low and behold, back to square one. Women’s rights abolished and so on. It sometimes makes me think it’s all in vain because some of these organisations are so large and widespread that it seems like an impossible task.

I absolutely think the west should get involved to prevent Iran gaining nuclear access because I dread to think what they would do if they got their hands on them as I say, they treat women like like 8th class citizens.

It’s evident on this thread with some posters asking “Why shouldn’t Iran have N.W.?” in all seriousness, as if they can be trusted! Terrifying…

He is being made an example out of because he is speaking out and he is shaming the corrupt uk government

Plain and simple

Love Kneecap they are amazing and I can not wait to see them in August

They speak the truth

They speak out for innocents being obliterated

What's not to like??????

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I didn’t say they were EQUALLY shit, but that they were shit. I would not like to live in Iran OR the US, though push come to shove I’d take the latter over the former.

Re Kneecap, they are just the latest in a long line of bands that courted political controversy. In the 70s it was the Sex Pistols for disrespecting the queen, in the 60s the Nice caused an absolute outrage by burning a US flag as part of their stage act in protest at the Vietnam War. There will undoubtedly be more recent examples, but I'm an old fart and can't think of any.

Prosecuting Kneecap would play right into their hands imo. I doubt if half of us would have heard of them if it wasn't for the Hamas thing.

I don't think it's helpful to conflate all terrorism with Al'Queda/ISIS etc as every situation has its own nuances. Up until recently women that made such outrageous statements as "humans can't change sex" were being arrested as criminals by the police, yet most on here would not view them as criminals.

What's not to like is when they praise antisemitic terrorist groups.

Legally Hamas are proscribed organisation in the UK.

He waved a flag.
He didn’t plant a bomb though, and only has to take responsibility for his own actions.

He says he doesn’t support Hamas or Hezbollah- which to me does put him in Provo(cation) territory. A massive case of all talk and no trousers.

He is going to be made look very very foolish at trial.

I am unsure what specific offense he is charged with, and whether there are any acceptable defences against it. But I just think Kneecap have nothing interesting or original to say.

"The Hamas thing". Fuck me.

The suffragettes were terrorists! They planted bombs in theatres and churches attended by the public.

Forgetting the atrocities Britain and the US have committed with their nuclear weapons, and focusing on women's rights...

What do you think of women's rights in Britain and the US?
*Domestic violence
*Rape and sexual assault
*Trafficking
*Misogyny
*Incel culture
*Reproductive rights
*Gender pay gap
*Representation in leadership spaces, especially in organisations that have largely female workforces
*Relationship inequality
*Bullying
*Verbal abuse
*...

I had never heard of the group before all this so, as they say, no publicity is bad publicity. They’d have been better just ignoring him.

What are the nuclear atrocities Britain has committed?

Damn sight better rights than Iran. Jeez, this needs to get out of my eyeline. I thought I'd hidden the thread.

You’d rather be in Iran or Afghanistan than U.K. as a woman?

Kneecap allegedly supported Hezbollah and Hamas.

You say that the horror of Manchester is a straw man argument.

I think that Manchester Arena was an horrific act of terrorism and I also think that the act of Hamas (who Kneecap allegedly showed support for) was also an horrific act of terrorism. It is entirely possible to consider both acts of terrorism and both dreadful.

Why would you think otherwise? Do you no equate the 2 acts of terrorism in the same way? If so, why is that? One was on innocents at a concert in the UK and the other on innocents as a music festival (and Kibbutz) in Israel. Does only one of these horrific acts of terrorism matter to you? If that is the case them I'm shocked that you would view these attacks on equally innocent people differently. Do you view them differently as you imply? I hope you don't.

I note OP is not willing to address why she is conflating the Manchester’s bombing with the current global situation.

He isn't just charged with waving a flag.

Testing nuclear weapons in various locations over the years. They didn’t even evacuate Christmas Island before the test, exposing all the islanders to radiation.

What do Hezbollah and Hamas have to do with the Manchester bombing?

That’s not what she said is it? You are taking the argument to absurd conclusions in order to try and prove your point.

See BBC Iplayer and some news articles for evidence of this.

If you're going to deliberately misunderstand... Absolutely not!
Doesn't mean, however, that I don't experience threatening behaviour and genuine fear in some cases here.
Being better doesn't mean good.

The Manchester bombing was designated a terrorist act.

Hamas and Hezbollah are designated terrorists and Hamas carried out a similar act in Israel (killing innocents as a festival rather than a music concert) to that carried out by Hamas. People defend Hamas or even support them (freedom fighters etc) and condone the act on innocents here in the UK (by a terrorist who stated he was avenging Syrian children).

Surely both acts are equally abhorrent. Apparently not though. Why might that be? At both terrorist attacks innocent people were killed. I think both attacks are equally abhorrent. Both carried out by terrorists. One a man with support from his brother and the other by multiple terrorists and civilians acting together.

Some consider one a terrorist act and the other acts of freedom fighters. To me they are both equally abhorrent acts, they are both terrorism. Some might say they are not equal, do lives of Israeli people (and others from different nations at the festival not matter then?)