To say the £35k winter fuel threshold is way too high!

[chocolateismyweakness4]

The threshold needed to be raised, but £35k?! I wish I earned that and I have a mortgage and commuting costs. It also doesn’t take into account savings (so they could have millions in the bank) or household income.

We all know it’s a bribe, but they still won’t get pensioners to vote for them.

So should families with newborn babies get it? What about people with disabilities?

Really ? I I'm aware it's now used as an ageist term of insult aimed at every one in the baby boomer category - but the 'particularly entitled element' - who are they?

Not necessarily
A couple living together both of sp will have £23,600 straight away
That leaves a private pension amount to get to £35k of £11,400 ( before tax) .

Divided between two people that have worked that’s £5,700 each private pension.
In the grand scale of things they could easily be paying rent. Many people have never bought property.

OMFG!!

Exactly. £35k before tax.

Well, I’ll get it back, so I’m not arguing. . It was obvious that some Labour MPs would cause problems over this. 🤷‍♀️🙄. But, no they’re not taking savings into account, nor the usual disregarded income such as DLA/PIP/AA.

I'm a boomer, working full time and a single mum to a 16yo. I'm neither entitled nor a pensioner. No chance to be either, for years yet, thanks

It is not spite to point out reality. These places are where I see lots of pensioners, routinely. Oh yes, and puchasing the Deluxe or Finest ranges in the supermarket. 😬
Maybe I just live in an area with loads of rich pensioners.

The term is used a lot as an insult against all pensioners who apparently are all loaded and deserve nothing.

You might want to read some other mumsnet threads. Ageism is rife.
Despite the fact it is against MN guidelines and discriminatory

Again, you're clearly not one of the entitled boomers then. 😬

It's not ageism to point out reality. 🫣

Amazing how many of us there are, isn’t it?

So you keep saying but you’re not seeing reality, you’re seeing what feeds your prejudice.

Those who expect hand-outs and dismiss the reality of how hard life is for the folk working to fund those hand-outs.

@chocolateismyweakness4
everyone gets it then hmrc take it back if your taxable income exceeds the stated amount.

So it does include income from saving and investments and is calculated by household, not individual.

And so you decided to generalise. I live in an area where some pensioners have to watch every penny to make ends meet. And the loss of the winter fuel allowance was a real blow. Rather than buy the 'finest' ranges they are more likely to be found by the 'yellow sticker' counter.

what's makes you think they have no mortgage or rent?

So, me telling you what I see, on a daily basis, is prejudice?

A large percentage don't.

Well, I’m having to pay full rent, and am still taxed, and always have been, since I left school. I haven’t got anywhere near 1 million pounds. 🙄

No, I decided to state reality.

It very clearly says it’s based on individual income.

75% of pensioners own a home outright, so while some people don’t own property, it’s not going to be those who have accumulated enough pension to be getting an extra ~£25k a year income on top of their state pension - it will be those living on the basic pension (who should get the help).

You’re basing this skewed version of reality on seeing a few pensioners buy expensive groceries. If that’s not prejudice I don’t know what is.

Eh?
Please read the actual words.

Dont understand why they U turned anyway