Just arrived on holiday with sisters kids

[EllyRoff]

They’re driving me insane already. I’ve never known kids so messy. Within 5 minutes of being here a full glass of juice was spilt over the sofa. They wander around with their dinner plates gravy spilling everywhere, potatoes falling onto the floor and getting trod on, squished into the carpet - the place looked like a disaster zone by the first evening.
yesterday morning they had cocopops for breakfast, one whole bowl got knocked off the table onto the floor, chocolate milk everywhere. Sister completely unbothered by it, just scrubbed it with her foot. One of them then got a yogurt out, ripped the lid off - yogurt splattered up their clothes. Lid chucked on floor (naturally landing face down on carpet). She then spun around resulting in yogurt going flying everywhere, all over the sofa and up the glass of the patio doors.

We went to a nature park, everything was pristine, Nephew got a milkshake, it ended up all over the table, all over his hands and face and then when he went to put the carton in the bin he somehow managed to get milkshake all down the front of the bin.

its driving me insane and I have another week of this. I’ve banned them from my bedroom after they trod mud all over my white duvet.

sister thinks I’m being uptight so there is already tension but I’m starting to feel myself feeling really frustrated with the kids. There is no respect for anything.

No mention of food being thrown in the OP. That was kind of my point. Just accidental spills and instances of children jumping up/carrying food when they’d be better staying put. I agree that they need to be taught. Where did the OP say that the children were sloppy eaters?

From what you described I thought they’re 2 yr olds. Mine is 6yr old and am around a fair few 4-6yr olds and have never seen the kind of mess and behaviour you’re talking about. Even school/ nursery at that age wouldn’t accept that and would have made them clean up.

Because deep down those of us who do not approve also live in fear that children brought up this way will eventually be the boyfriends/girlfriends/partners of our own children. Trust me. It happens.

@Ottersmith

"They are not just your 'sisters kids', they are your niblings. Why didn't you help them with the plates? Are you sitting around just watching them spill things? I'd like to hear your sisters perspective. Will we get a thread with the title 'on holiday with my sister and she is doing Fuck all to help with the kids and just judging is the whole time.'?

You're taking the fucking piss aren't you? Why the hell should the OP help (to that extent) with kids that aren't hers. They're behaving like feral wild things. Why the hell can't the sister properly parent her own children - presumably she wasn't forced by gun point to have them. Their behaviour sounds above and beyond anything acceptable and the sister is doing these children a great disservice. I hate to think how they'll navigate the world without being "othered".

That’s really not a normal
amount of mess from kids!

surely this is a "not my circus not my giraffes" situation? You pack and leave. Normal mess not normal mess not relevant.

Talk to your sister, tell her the mess is bothering you.

Then either you both agree together a strategy to improve things, and you help her with getting them to sit still while eating & help her clean up after them when necessary, or if she won't work with you or accept that there's any issue, you'll have to leave. She clearly needs help but maybe she won't see it.

Well if she doesn't leave the place spotless she will never be allowed back. People who own these places get feedback from others renting out and she'll probably find she's banned from them all.

Not just me then. I can’t say milkshake was treated any different drinks wise with my three. No more spoilage than other drinks and if I had children known for spilling open top cups regularly they wouldn’t be having them filled to the top and out and about would be sports type bottles for drinks.

Go home. I wouldn't be wasting my holiday with feral children and a their lazy parent.

Not if they're taught to be careful. You say it like it's inevitable they'll make a mess. I get with ADHD it's more likely, but not inevitable.

her kids her mess and booking in her name so it's on her to clean up before you leave as you are meant to be on holiday

I know you have now updated your post saying the children are only 4 and 6 but by now they should have been taught not to walk around with food. All 4 of mine knew by the age of 3 that the only place to eat food was at the dining table and when they had finished to sit still until they were told they could get down. I'm sorry to say, but your sister needs telling, and those children do too.

This is for Ottersmith. I'm sorry but 1stly your language isn't necessary and 2ndly the ladies sister should have taught the children by now. She may be their aunty but she's not responsible for their upbringing their mother is! I've known people like her sister and they are normally as unruly as their children. In her place I would tell her and I would never go on holiday with her again.

I had a diagnosed adhd child but he was never like this, no excuse for just not teaching them. Lazy parent, her house must be dreadful.

This,.how old are they. They are not going to be welcome in anybody's house.
Your DSis needs to fo some parenting

At that age a little bit of food may fall on the floor but your DSis should insist that they eat at the table and should sit with them to help out and minimise the mess.

Of course it's fucking lazy parenting

What else is it???!

Yes exactly my thoughts, next time we'll get a hotel and I'm sure she'll be happy about that 😁We have friends and family all over the place and it's very noticeable to me, how much warmer and more understanding our friends but also people generally are, the further south (Europe) we go. I asked whether she's a mum because I think it really takes having kids to understand how hard it can be. There are times where we just have to turn off, we make sure our kids are fed, clothed and teeth are brushed and everything else can wait for the next day. For the mental health of all mothers it would be so nice to see some honesty, some solidarity with another mother whose just travelled with kids and now is, unbeknownst (thankfully) to her, getting slammed online for being a lazy mother with feral children and having a pig sty. I don't even know why her sister would post this here, why does a adult woman need third party justification for being annoyed? Talk to your sister about it 😂 But mostly the comments are shite, women are a woman's worst enemy it seems 😒 If they can't/don't want to help their sister here and there, they obviously cannot talk to her either for some weird reason and they don't enjoy spending time with their niece or nephew, then why is the OP on this weird holiday at all 😳.

It’s more the fact the sister is allowing it to happen, not having them just to sit while eating, no respect for the property they’re renting, rubbing spilled food into the carpet with her foot, that’s being a slob & lazy af and anyone condoning that as normal and seeing nothing wrong with anything she described clearly has to be just as oblivious to just how annoying their own kids are to others!! You don’t allow kids to walk round with plates of food or yogurt spilling it everywhere and just brush it off and think that’s ok at a holiday rental, it’s just trashy and disrespectful and shows the type of person the sister is!!

You need to get out of this holiday. Say you are sick, fake it really well. Oh, hang on I think you may already be there, ignore comment.

Sloppy parenting . Your sister is enabling all this .

I couldn't bear that. I'd perhaps give her an ultimatum then leave if things don't improve. The kids need to be taught how to behave. How on earth will they manage in life? I can guess what sort of adults they'll turn into...

True. But OP still has to put up with the disorder and mess!

This is not normal at all. Atrocious parenting. And I have three kids two ASD one ADHD. They haven't left the table holding food ever, because I am watching them. I opened their bloody yoghurts for them when they couldn't reliably do it cleanly themselves. It's not rocket science.
I couldn't stay there and watch this, I'd have to leave. I'd be tearing my hair in frustration watching this.