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I felt like I got shut down in a weird way by my DIL

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TheWisePearlRaven · 08/06/2025 01:29

I'm wondering if I dropped the ball with my DIL. I took my son to a baseball game recently because he’s been under a lot of pressure with work and he’s an awesome dad and I wanted to give him a bit of a break and my DIL felt like I should've offered to watch the baby so they could've gone on a date. She mentioned feeling like she's always solo-parenting and I didn't help them out as a couple. She said she felt she supports my son by raising my granddaughter saving the family money and giving my son piece of mind that she is in good hands with her mother and it’s not easy work doing this 24/7 as my son gets to leave his job but a SAHM never gets to “clock out” not to mention she handles all of the household tasks of the daily running of the household another less thing my son has to worry about it and she felt I overlooked that and only saw my son’s contributions to the family.

Now she's asked me to watch the baby next week for some me-time. Should I have thought of that date-day opportunity for them? How can I better support them both? I feel awful that my DIL feels I was just supporting my son while overlooking her as that wasn’t my intention at all. I guess as the grandmother I should be looking at it through the lens of supporting the family unit as a whole and not just focus in on supporting my son. I’m glad my DIL felt comfortable enough with me to express her hurt feelings and concern rather than harboring resentment towards me.

However AIBU to be a bit annoyed deep down that a kind gesture I did towards my son individually was basically shut down?

OP posts:
unicornpower · 08/06/2025 07:35

I don’t think you did anything wrong? It’s ok to want to see your own son and treat him independently of the family unit. However her reaction would say there’s frustration bubbling already, do you think he’s possibly not the most amazing dad/husband you think he is? She probably would kill for a break, it’s a hard slog being with small humans all day and she probably resents how he could just ‘go’ and I don’t she doesn’t get that opportunity.

ForBusyZebra · 08/06/2025 07:36

NeonUnicorn · 08/06/2025 07:31

But OP does babysit for them. I don't see anything wrong with wanting to treat her son on this occasion.

OP, I don't think you did anything wrong. Your DIL is obviously feeling a bit taken for granted but that's not your issue to fix. If she and your son want a date night, or she needs some time to herself, then they should arrange that and arrange a babysitter (possibly you). Or your son could step up at the weekends and give her a few hours to herself while he looks after the baby.

It’s her DIL her family shouldn’t she care about her feelings and well being

Butchyrestingface · 08/06/2025 07:36

TheAutumnCrow · 08/06/2025 07:32

Anyone else think the thread title is odd, given the OP’s content?

Yes. Thread title implies daughter-in-law at fault and then OP spends the thread castigating herself and batting off anyone who says they don't think she did anything particularly wrong.

One of the reasons I thought it might be a reverse written by DiL. Draw 'em in with the provocative thread title, then post all about how you've wronged poor, put-upon DiL.

ForBusyZebra · 08/06/2025 07:36

unicornpower · 08/06/2025 07:35

I don’t think you did anything wrong? It’s ok to want to see your own son and treat him independently of the family unit. However her reaction would say there’s frustration bubbling already, do you think he’s possibly not the most amazing dad/husband you think he is? She probably would kill for a break, it’s a hard slog being with small humans all day and she probably resents how he could just ‘go’ and I don’t she doesn’t get that opportunity.

I think MIL should level the playing field a bit and bond with her DIL giving her a reprieve and treating her to lunch

Poynsettia · 08/06/2025 07:38

DIL probably looks forward to Saturday as it gives her a break.
i don’t know what son’s job is but i found being at work easier than home all day with a baby. …fun with colleagues, peace to eat lunch, you finish work and go home etc

FedUp120028 · 08/06/2025 07:38

RosesAndHellebores · 08/06/2025 02:15

Going against the grain here as a MIL, although not as a grandma yet.

You babysit once a month for them, DIL's parents baby sit every couple of weeks. That's pretty good going imo.

I'd say that if DIL wants an afternoon away from the baby she could have a jolly with her mum whilst your DS babysits.

I think your DIL's being a bit bratty and entitled to be honest. My DIL has daughter time with her family; similarly DS occasionally has son time with us. Sometimes when they are in London DS will come to us Fr/Sat and she'll go to her parents and either DS will go to theirs on the Saturday or she'll come to ours.

DS babysit? You mean parents? Or is it only a mother who is expected to parent?

ForBusyZebra · 08/06/2025 07:40

YellowGuido · 08/06/2025 07:30

Completely agree - DIL is being unreasonable about you wanting to spend time with your son. His efforts at home / time for herself / time together as a couple should be separate issues - though I do also get her venting if she is feeling overwhelmed (to a point)
Does she spend one on one time with her family, etc?

Bc it takes two to run a household and she only cares about her son being recognized for it that’s the problem. Why not take her DIL to lunch and treat her as well. Level the playing field. You are talking about DIL like her MIL has no loyalty or care for her as family like she is a distant family member like a cousin. She is close family she isn’t a cousin, niece, acquaintance.

ForZanyAquaViewer · 08/06/2025 07:41

Incakewetrust · 08/06/2025 02:36

Why do I get the feeling that this is a reverse? 🤨

Same, same.

ForBusyZebra · 08/06/2025 07:42

Poynsettia · 08/06/2025 07:38

DIL probably looks forward to Saturday as it gives her a break.
i don’t know what son’s job is but i found being at work easier than home all day with a baby. …fun with colleagues, peace to eat lunch, you finish work and go home etc

Not according to the OP. Her poor poor baby boy son is so put upon and needs a break from parenting but her DIL doing the majority of parenting 5 days a week isn’t the one who needs a break but sure out of the 2 days a week the DIL actually gets to see her husband and have support at home he is the one taken away for a break. Give me a break (pun intended haha!)

how often do you see a mother taken out and treated for being a good mother or a SAH?! Hardly ever bc it’s just assumed even in 2025 that the mother is the default parent and the father should be recognized and elevated for so much as earning a living or breathing in the same direction as his child. The double standards on mumsnet are alive and well!

Eviebeans · 08/06/2025 07:43

Rafting2022 · 08/06/2025 01:49

I don’t get why this is your fault and not your son’s. Could he not have politely declined and asked if you could babysit instead? How much time does he look after the grandchild at weekends to give her time to pursue her own interests?

I absolutely agree with this- seems as if she feels able to tell you how she feels but isn’t able to be as clear with your son. I think he is at fault here and isn’t thinking things through properly.

Heronwatcher · 08/06/2025 07:43

I think the issue is that your treat to him directly made her life more difficult. But as it was a fait accomplis she couldn’t suggest an alternative.

I can see her point- if he’s been stressed at work I assume she’s been bearing the brunt of childcare as well, which as she says just hasn’t been recognised at all. But you’ve recognised where you went wrong- next time just make sure that a treat to him doesn’t make everyone else’s life more difficult.

Ivy888 · 08/06/2025 07:43

TheWisePearlRaven · 08/06/2025 01:35

I do babysit for them about once a month or so. I think she does need a break but I think for her it was about the principle that I took my son out on a Saturday to treat him and that left her another day of being alone having to be responsible for my granddaughter. She told me it told her I only recognize my son’s hard work as a father and contribution to the family and she felt confused why I didn’t offer to babysit my granddaughter and let them two go out to the baseball game instead of me taking my son.

She felt everyone would have won I would get my GD all to myself for a few hours and she and my son would get some time together on a date baby free. She said what her hurt her the most was the discrepancy and that she felt I took her for granted while elevating my son saying he needs a break when she does to. And it hurt her feelings. I apologized and said I will try to support them both as parents and a couple and I love her and would never intentionally take her for granted.

I agree with your DIL.

nomoremsniceperson · 08/06/2025 07:44

TheWisePearlRaven · 08/06/2025 04:45

Yes this wasn’t a slight to my DIL. This was me saying hey I haven’t spent time with the child I birthed in a while and it would be nice to. He looked stressed and I wanted to do something nice for him. I don’t want to be that poster but I can’t help but feel if a daughter looked stressed and her mother took her out for a spa day no one would say oh you are leaving the father with his child. Or well what about the father of your GC your SIL where is his treat. Everyone would say mothers deserve a treat and a break she should go out with her mother and no one would think of it in the context of taking away time from her husband to hangout with her own mother. Everyone would say he is the father too he can watch his own child for a few hours. No one would expect a mother to have to pencil in an appt to hangout with her own daughter it would be seen as it’s mother and daughter let them have time together. They may be married but the husband doesn’t have ownership or monopoly on all his wife’s time and attention yet being a mother of a son you have to tread very lightly because anytime you want your son to devote to you is automatically viewed through the eyes of taking away time from his wife as if is wife automatically owns all his time and attention.

Yes but I think this would be a very different situation, because it's normally the mother doing the lion's share of the childcare and housework, which is more or less 24/7, so it makes more sense to take her out of the house for a spa day.

Being a SAHM is often described as "not working" but it is actually the hardest work one can do, particularly because there are no breaks, you're always on duty, even overnight night. I understand why your DIL felt overlooked and taken for granted, and how unfair it seems to her that her DH still has a life outside of the home and a job where he can take a break or chat to other adults or go grab a coffee, whereas she is confined to the house with a very demanding small person who doesn't understand the concept of her having a break, or even taking a shower, without them - and then he gets treated alone, to a nice trip out, with her simply being expected to pick up the slack at home at one of the few times she's normally got some help from him. There is no line between work and rest for a SAHP which is why getting outdoors and being treated to some time off is so important for them.

I understand that you feel upset that your kind gesture was taken badly by your DIL, but if you look at it through the lens of how we as a society treat women, and particularly SAHMs, it's not at all surprising or unreasonable that she felt unseen and put out by this. Childcare/housework is unwaged labour but as a society we pretend it is just love and duty and refuse to acknowledge it as the hard work it is.

Agapornis · 08/06/2025 07:45

I see two women agonising, while a man stands idly by. What is HE doing to improve?

Your DIL has a DH problem, not a MIL problem. He said it was fine. You shouldn't have to double check that with her - surely that would be far more infantilising than taking him to a game as a reward.

This is the most relevant bit:
"My son did reiterate to my his wife was upset with him about this as well and said she felt he should have stuck up for her and not left her alone with the baby. He should have told me mom we don’t get much time together as husband wife and baby this cuts into our already limited time together can you babysit so we can go out or we can all go to the game together"

Sprinklesandsprinkles · 08/06/2025 07:45

So where I absolutely get where she's coming from, just because she works hard it doesn't mean you can't do things with your son.

When my DS grows up I hope I get to spend time treating him now and again rather than only having the option if babysitting. And I say this as a SAHM who gets basically no time off myself.

A mix of babysitting and time with your son sounds very fair to me. They are lucky to have 1 date a month it's a lot more than a lot of parents, personally I get 1-2 chances a year

ForBusyZebra · 08/06/2025 07:47

Sprinklesandsprinkles · 08/06/2025 07:45

So where I absolutely get where she's coming from, just because she works hard it doesn't mean you can't do things with your son.

When my DS grows up I hope I get to spend time treating him now and again rather than only having the option if babysitting. And I say this as a SAHM who gets basically no time off myself.

A mix of babysitting and time with your son sounds very fair to me. They are lucky to have 1 date a month it's a lot more than a lot of parents, personally I get 1-2 chances a year

What about time with her DIL as well recognizing and treating her hard work? Or does only her son’s matter. She takes out her son surely she can take her DIL out as well

Latenightanxiety · 08/06/2025 07:47

AnyoneWhoHasAHeart · 08/06/2025 02:32

That’s the father’s responsibility not the OP’s.

OP, you’re a mil so are the default spawn of satan on here.

Contrary to the MN narrative, you are entitled to spend time with your son, and given you said you do babysit regularly it’s not as if you’re not an involved grandparent.

You did nothing wrong.

Im on this thinking! As long as my husband wasn’t avoiding all weekends to go have me time while we don’t have any then id think it was sweet if my mother in law spent some time with my husband as long as i was getting some time to myself at some other points (which my husband could also cover).

But im I’m looking at it from someone who struggles to get babysitters and the fact son and daughter in law get two nights out a month already just blows my minds 😂

it’s also not actually anyone’s responsibility to babysit, just a kind gesture if someone chooses too.

FedUp120028 · 08/06/2025 07:47

AlphabetBird · 08/06/2025 07:07

There’s absolutely nothing wrong with you taking your son out or seeing him separately to his wife.

Imagine if the situation reversed and your DS was kicking off that his MIL had dared take her daughter off to a football match or out for dinner and he was appalled to be left at home holding the baby with no treats. Everyone here would call him an abusive twat, wouldn’t they?

By all means babysit so they can get out together whenever you want, it don’t be told it’s not ok to see your DS.

Well, how often is it that daddy is left holding the baby so mummy gets to go out? 🧐

It's clear the mum is the default parent here and her husband treats her as such, and probably comes and goes as he pleases!

FedUp120028 · 08/06/2025 07:50

Agapornis · 08/06/2025 07:45

I see two women agonising, while a man stands idly by. What is HE doing to improve?

Your DIL has a DH problem, not a MIL problem. He said it was fine. You shouldn't have to double check that with her - surely that would be far more infantilising than taking him to a game as a reward.

This is the most relevant bit:
"My son did reiterate to my his wife was upset with him about this as well and said she felt he should have stuck up for her and not left her alone with the baby. He should have told me mom we don’t get much time together as husband wife and baby this cuts into our already limited time together can you babysit so we can go out or we can all go to the game together"

Agree 100%

diddl · 08/06/2025 07:51

So the issue was in the wording?

If you'd just said to your son "should we see a game in a couple of weeks?" that would have been ok?

I wouldn't be watching baby so she can have me time-your son can do that.

Whilst I get why she was pissed off, you have apologised I don't think you need to do more.

You do a lot as it is & I'd be wondering if it's appreciated.

Escapingagain · 08/06/2025 07:53

I think I can see it both ways. You and your son are entitled to spend time together which doesn’t really happen once children grow up. But dil is tired and wanted time with him to. The bigger question is probably aimed at your son and did he realise how she would feel as he could have arranged it fairly.

FedUp120028 · 08/06/2025 07:54

diddl · 08/06/2025 07:51

So the issue was in the wording?

If you'd just said to your son "should we see a game in a couple of weeks?" that would have been ok?

I wouldn't be watching baby so she can have me time-your son can do that.

Whilst I get why she was pissed off, you have apologised I don't think you need to do more.

You do a lot as it is & I'd be wondering if it's appreciated.

I imagine she wouldn't ask MIL if her husband would stay home so she can go out.

SilverShark · 08/06/2025 07:55

You sound like a wonderful MIL, so don't feel bad. The fact that you have taken the time and effort to consider how your DIL feels shows how much you care. The early years of being a mother can be so emotionally and physically draining. It can also be socially isolating. Maybe your DIL is just reaching out to be heard/recognised for what she does, and to feel as though she's valued as a member of the family. She might also be craving a closer connection with you. I say this as a DIL who has felt completely ignored by DH's family since the birth of my DC. Good luck to you all going forward

nomas · 08/06/2025 07:57

TheWisePearlRaven · 08/06/2025 01:54

I think it was the principle that I took my son out individually for his role in his family while taking for granted and overlooking my DIL’s role in the family so it was about my personal relationship with her in my DIL’s words. I definitely see where she is coming from so I apologized and moving forward I will give them time alone as a married couple and offer to babysit my GC to give them that alone time together

You don’t have to explain to every individual poster, we can see your earlier responses. Just to save you typing Smile

EquinoxQueen · 08/06/2025 07:57

Clearly it is reasonable to take your son out and treat him or just spend time with him. However you made the treat about his role as a father and his contributions. That’s where you went wrong.

its good your DiL spoke up and I think k it does say lots about her feeling overlooked for her contributions either by his lack of support at home or you bigging him up.

but it’s done, she has spoken up and you can reflect on it. Doesn’t mean you shouldn’t spend time with your son one on one but you should consider how you announce/invite him

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