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Dangermoo · 06/06/2025 21:39

😂who needs comedy when you've got AIBU? 😂

12doublerolls · 06/06/2025 21:39

cardibach · 06/06/2025 21:34

It’s not my fault your family members don’t keep up with the news. Nothing I’d like less than digging into SYL. It’s common knowledge if you are politically and socially aware.
Have you been assuming people on the thread aren’t?

Nah you sound like a secret fan. If I don’t like someone I just keep swiping, no interest in what they are upto. But you go out of your way to snoop and proper dig.

MerlinsBeard1 · 06/06/2025 21:39

cardibach · 06/06/2025 21:35

What do you think Reform will do?
Their ‘policies’ are utter fantasy.

That remains to be seen doesn't it. Pretty sure they won't rob old or disabled people though.

Dangermoo · 06/06/2025 21:40

MerlinsBeard1 · 06/06/2025 21:39

That remains to be seen doesn't it. Pretty sure they won't rob old or disabled people though.

😆 🤣 😂

MiloMinderbinder925 · 06/06/2025 21:40

Dangermoo · 06/06/2025 21:39

😂who needs comedy when you've got AIBU? 😂

You're easily amused, which is nice.

12doublerolls · 06/06/2025 21:40

TooBigForMyBoots · 06/06/2025 21:35

The reason people don't like him is because they know things about him. Like he's a violent, racist, criminal thug.

There’s far worse than him out there. Get your head out the sand.

cardibach · 06/06/2025 21:40

Clavinova · 06/06/2025 21:37

You were posting about the other case shortly before I posted.

Do you think they shouldn’t?

I was asking you about the court records you claimed to have read, not offering an opinion.

I think you are confusing me with someone else. I’ve never claimed to have read all his court records. A general awareness of what they will say is enough t9 make a judgement. Alongside his guilty plea, obvs.

BIossomtoes · 06/06/2025 21:41

12doublerolls · 06/06/2025 21:32

How public though because I just ask two family members who he is and they don’t even know who he is, never heard of him 🤷🏻‍♀️ sounds like you’ve been digging 🫢

You don’t need to “dig” if you read newspapers and social media.

PinkiOcelot · 06/06/2025 21:41

MiloMinderbinder925 · 06/06/2025 17:13

You think the staff should be forced to serve him?

Yes.

MerlinsBeard1 · 06/06/2025 21:41

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Most of them are.

Echobelly · 06/06/2025 21:41

Jujujudo · 06/06/2025 21:03

I’m not aligning Jews with him. But Jews are being targeted and intimidated because of politics. I was making a point.

That's not a parallel though. Robinson is very much responsible for the harmful things he has said - for example, nearly derailing the trial of sex abusers to use it as grandstanding for racism and xenophobia. Words like that have consequences, and that may include people not wanting to deal with him in various ways.

Jews are not responsible for the reprehensible actions of Israel and people perceiving that to be the case are plain wrong.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 06/06/2025 21:42

PinkiOcelot · 06/06/2025 21:41

Yes.

Well they weren't, which is their right.

cardibach · 06/06/2025 21:42

12doublerolls · 06/06/2025 21:39

Nah you sound like a secret fan. If I don’t like someone I just keep swiping, no interest in what they are upto. But you go out of your way to snoop and proper dig.

Utter nonsense.
It’s really very, very common knowledge.
Your ‘fan’ accusation makes no sense when I’m saying he’s vile and you are saying he’s a lovely bloke with mainly black and Asian friends.

Caerulea · 06/06/2025 21:43

A lot of you are really showing your colours on waiting staff, aren't you.

cardibach · 06/06/2025 21:44

MerlinsBeard1 · 06/06/2025 21:39

That remains to be seen doesn't it. Pretty sure they won't rob old or disabled people though.

You think?
I think they’ll rob everyone to enrich themselves.

Dangermoo · 06/06/2025 21:45

Echobelly · 06/06/2025 21:41

That's not a parallel though. Robinson is very much responsible for the harmful things he has said - for example, nearly derailing the trial of sex abusers to use it as grandstanding for racism and xenophobia. Words like that have consequences, and that may include people not wanting to deal with him in various ways.

Jews are not responsible for the reprehensible actions of Israel and people perceiving that to be the case are plain wrong.

Correction: Jewish people are not deserving of the violent discrimination they are being subjected to.

cardibach · 06/06/2025 21:46

12doublerolls · 06/06/2025 21:40

There’s far worse than him out there. Get your head out the sand.

There may be. That doesn’t make him pleasant though, does it? I mean, do we reserve judgement for serial killers or what?

MerlinsBeard1 · 06/06/2025 21:46

cardibach · 06/06/2025 21:44

You think?
I think they’ll rob everyone to enrich themselves.

That would be called speculation.

We don't need to speculate over what a robbing cunt Kier is though do we, that is happening in real time.

cardibach · 06/06/2025 21:47

MerlinsBeard1 · 06/06/2025 21:46

That would be called speculation.

We don't need to speculate over what a robbing cunt Kier is though do we, that is happening in real time.

You speculated first

Dangermoo · 06/06/2025 21:47

MerlinsBeard1 · 06/06/2025 21:46

That would be called speculation.

We don't need to speculate over what a robbing cunt Kier is though do we, that is happening in real time.

😆 🤣 😂

12doublerolls · 06/06/2025 21:47

cardibach · 06/06/2025 21:42

Utter nonsense.
It’s really very, very common knowledge.
Your ‘fan’ accusation makes no sense when I’m saying he’s vile and you are saying he’s a lovely bloke with mainly black and Asian friends.

No im saying he’s not a racist. Because you want to live in a safe country and aren’t afraid to say that, does not make you racist. I know for a fact he’s friends are black and Asian. But you dont.

HeadDeskHeadDesk · 06/06/2025 21:48

QurikySparrowHatrack · 06/06/2025 21:30

You could exclude specific people on the basis of their known and specific past behavior. You can't do so based on their ethnicity.

I dont think you know what a protected characteristic is (you seem to think some people have them and some people don't...)

My point was that if those people are known troublemakers and they have a protected characteristic, what then? You might be able to exlude them after they've done something wrong, but you wouldn't be able to exclude them purely because of a fear that they might be a problem, even if experience tells you that they will be. Not because they are Travellers per se, and not because you are a racist per se, but because they have a reputation for anti-social behaviour that goes before them and something about their demeanor in your presence is making you uncomfortable.

Whereas in TR's case, it seems the restaurant/pub can sling him out based on his reputation alone, and 'feeling uncomfortable' even though he did nothing wrong while there.

If you did that to a specific group of Travellers who you had read/heard bad things about but had not personally experienced any issues at all, you'd almost certainly risk being sued for racial discrimination.

I do know what a protected characteristic is. And yes, some people do have them, some people don't, so I am not sure what you are driving at there. Confused

MerlinsBeard1 · 06/06/2025 21:48

cardibach · 06/06/2025 21:47

You speculated first

But your speculation was more extreme than my speculation. Said in annoying childish voice for full effect.

cardibach · 06/06/2025 21:51

12doublerolls · 06/06/2025 21:47

No im saying he’s not a racist. Because you want to live in a safe country and aren’t afraid to say that, does not make you racist. I know for a fact he’s friends are black and Asian. But you dont.

He’s a racist.

12doublerolls · 06/06/2025 21:52

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