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Sophie Ellis-Bextor concert. Ugh

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IOnlyWantSexMoneyPowerAndRevenge · 04/06/2025 21:18

Saw her last week. Good fun. I missed the opportunity to wear my glittery Christmas dress though.

We all know she has legs that go on for days and likes to show them off (so would I if I had them!). At various points during the show she had to bend over (dropped something and so on). Every single time, at least one man wolf whistled. One man started and then others thought it was OK to join in.

I mean, really? They weren't sat near me or I would have said something. It pissed me right off. We were there to sing and dance to a bit of disco and grotty men insist on making their thoughts knoen about how attractive she is. As if anyone cares.

Most of the audience were 50+ which somehow made it even more grim.

Yuk just yuk.

OP posts:
Notyomama · 05/06/2025 13:02

Soukmyfalafel · 05/06/2025 12:59

That's a really, really weird logic thinking you know that SEB would want a wolf whistle simply because she picks something off the floor. With that logic I can simply wolf whistle a tradesman with their crack on show as they are working. Wouldn't be weird at all....

I wonder if the women who think wolf whistling is innocent have ever stopped to think why women generally don't wolf whistle at men on the street?

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 05/06/2025 13:02

I cannot stand her, hate the sound of her voice but I think it's because I had terrible morning sickness at the first outing of murder on the ........😂

ExercicenformedeZ · 05/06/2025 13:02

I don't see why the audience being over 50 has anything to do with it. Sophie herself is nearly that age. That said, pretty naff behaviour to wolf whistle.

PuzzledPartridge · 05/06/2025 13:04

She gave permission for her song to be used on Saltburn. I don't think she would have minded a few wolf whistles.

I know some PP's say it's not just about her but I strongly advise them not to go and see Sanrina Carpenter.

Notyomama · 05/06/2025 13:08

PuzzledPartridge · 05/06/2025 13:04

She gave permission for her song to be used on Saltburn. I don't think she would have minded a few wolf whistles.

I know some PP's say it's not just about her but I strongly advise them not to go and see Sanrina Carpenter.

The Saltburn logic is really odd.

Missohnoyoubetterdont · 05/06/2025 13:08

Lanzarotelady · 05/06/2025 09:42

She can wear exactly what she wants, but she was also fully aware of the fact that wearing a very short skirt and bending over would illicit the exact reaction she was looking for and encouraging!

You are f*cking joking?

PuzzledPartridge · 05/06/2025 13:10

Notyomama · 05/06/2025 13:08

The Saltburn logic is really odd.

No it's not, she said she was very intrigued by the scene where he is dancing in the nude to it where you could see his penis.

Bepo77 · 05/06/2025 13:11

NotSmallButFunSize · 05/06/2025 09:47

Agreed.

I think everyone should wear whatever they want but I just find it interesting that when women are being "empowered" and "celebrating themselves" it seems to involve wearing as little as possible and wanting to look "sexy"

Men rarely seem to have to be undressed to be "empowered".

If you enjoy the attention from it then go for it but let's not pretend Poor Little Sophie just wanted to wear some cute shorts and accidentally kept bending over and wide eyed shock didn't realise that would mean some men would express that they liked it. It was entirely for their benefit and her own ego.

Come on.

Edited

This!!! We don't have to get naked to be empowered. Why not be fully dressed and use your brain.

Notyomama · 05/06/2025 13:11

PuzzledPartridge · 05/06/2025 13:10

No it's not, she said she was very intrigued by the scene where he is dancing in the nude to it where you could see his penis.

Ok...I genuinely don't understand what you're implying. Are you saying because she commented on this scene she must be up for wolf whistles?

InWithThePlums · 05/06/2025 13:11

Notyomama · 05/06/2025 13:08

The Saltburn logic is really odd.

agreed, not sure what that means. I don’t think that scene in Saltburn was about inciting us to wolf whistle!

PuzzledPartridge · 05/06/2025 13:14

Notyomama · 05/06/2025 13:11

Ok...I genuinely don't understand what you're implying. Are you saying because she commented on this scene she must be up for wolf whistles?

Do you honestly think she was upset about the wolf whistling?

3678194b · 05/06/2025 13:15

Nothing wrong with the concert goers being 50+, after all Sophie herself is nearer 50 than she is 40. So YABU in that respect.

Leerly man, though YANBU but maybe Sophie herself was encouraging such behaviour!

Notyomama · 05/06/2025 13:16

PuzzledPartridge · 05/06/2025 13:14

Do you honestly think she was upset about the wolf whistling?

Edited

I have no idea what she felt. I'm asking you about your logic.

PuzzledPartridge · 05/06/2025 13:18

Notyomama · 05/06/2025 13:16

I have no idea what she felt. I'm asking you about your logic.

I can't be bothered. You'll only twist what I say.

Notyomama · 05/06/2025 13:19

3678194b · 05/06/2025 13:15

Nothing wrong with the concert goers being 50+, after all Sophie herself is nearer 50 than she is 40. So YABU in that respect.

Leerly man, though YANBU but maybe Sophie herself was encouraging such behaviour!

The 'encouraging such behaviour' attitude really baffles me. If I push you, you'll fall over, so in that sense I've 'encouraged' your behaviour. But if I wear something short and you wolf whistle at me, I haven't encouraged anything - you are a grown adult and as such you are responsible for your own behaviour.

Notyomama · 05/06/2025 13:21

PuzzledPartridge · 05/06/2025 13:18

I can't be bothered. You'll only twist what I say.

Ok, let me put words in your mouth instead then. You believe that because SEB had a certain attitude towards a sexually explicit film, she must be ok with wolf whistling. It's the same sort of attitude as 'she asked for it' - i.e. if a woman appears any less than 100% 'pure' she must want to be leered at.

Missohnoyoubetterdont · 05/06/2025 13:22

@PuzzledPartridge are you saying she was ‘asking for it’ because of what she was wearing and that she had to bend down? Or that because she was interested in the end scene of Saltburn and let them use her music that means she enjoys being sexually harassed on stage?… I mean that’s fairly dangerous territory if so and honestly, only Sophie E B knows how she feels about wolf whistling, not you or anyone else making wild guesses on the internet but whatever she was wearing/doing or thinking those idiotic men should know better. Have we advanced at all???

PuzzledPartridge · 05/06/2025 13:23

Missohnoyoubetterdont · 05/06/2025 13:22

@PuzzledPartridge are you saying she was ‘asking for it’ because of what she was wearing and that she had to bend down? Or that because she was interested in the end scene of Saltburn and let them use her music that means she enjoys being sexually harassed on stage?… I mean that’s fairly dangerous territory if so and honestly, only Sophie E B knows how she feels about wolf whistling, not you or anyone else making wild guesses on the internet but whatever she was wearing/doing or thinking those idiotic men should know better. Have we advanced at all???

Edited

Nope.

I never said that.

I have never mentioned her bending down or her clothes. So you need to stop accusing people of things they haven't said.

Missohnoyoubetterdont · 05/06/2025 13:24

PuzzledPartridge · 05/06/2025 13:23

Nope.

I never said that.

I have never mentioned her bending down or her clothes. So you need to stop accusing people of things they haven't said.

Edited

Kind of feels like you did. If you didn’t, what is your point exactly?

Notyomama · 05/06/2025 13:24

PuzzledPartridge · 05/06/2025 13:23

Nope.

I never said that.

I have never mentioned her bending down or her clothes. So you need to stop accusing people of things they haven't said.

Edited

You strongly implied it. If it's wrong you have every chance to explain what you really meant.

IOnlyWantSexMoneyPowerAndRevenge · 05/06/2025 13:24

brunettemic · 05/06/2025 11:55

That is clearly not what is being said. Sophie Ellis-Bextor has a brand. That brand is heavily built on wearing short skirts and her legs. The frequent dropping of things is clearly designed on purpose to elicit a response and discussion around her. Nobody is saying it’s right that men react in that way but you’re shockingly naive to think it’s not all designed as part of the show.

It was exactly what was said.

OP posts:
PuzzledPartridge · 05/06/2025 13:25

Notyomama · 05/06/2025 13:24

You strongly implied it. If it's wrong you have every chance to explain what you really meant.

Prove it.

Notyomama · 05/06/2025 13:25

PuzzledPartridge · 05/06/2025 13:25

Prove it.

You did that for me, thanks.

3678194b · 05/06/2025 13:26

Notyomama · 05/06/2025 13:19

The 'encouraging such behaviour' attitude really baffles me. If I push you, you'll fall over, so in that sense I've 'encouraged' your behaviour. But if I wear something short and you wolf whistle at me, I haven't encouraged anything - you are a grown adult and as such you are responsible for your own behaviour.

No she clearly wants a reaction. It's a concert for goodness sake. Why are you quoting everyone, clearly have some kind of problem.

Notyomama · 05/06/2025 13:27

3678194b · 05/06/2025 13:26

No she clearly wants a reaction. It's a concert for goodness sake. Why are you quoting everyone, clearly have some kind of problem.

Clearly.

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