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DD unwell, had to take a day off, works reaction..

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Raincloud997 · 02/06/2025 22:53

I am a single parent and have limited childcare. My DD is in reception and was unwell today so couldn't go back in to school today after the half term. I had to ring up. My manager sounded very annoyed on the phone and said they have other staff off too, said she is struggling for cover and that I really must try and make it in tomorrow and that someone else will have to look after my DD. She also sighed before putting down the phone. I don't have a lot of time off at all, this is the first time its happened and my contract states they allow for emergency parental leave but her reaction has got me worried and I don't think I have childcare for tomorrow if she is no better by morning. What would ou do?

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Shittyhouse · 03/06/2025 09:31

No responsible babysitter will randomly look after a sick child. This could result in the babysitter becoming ill and being unable to do her job, which could affect the care of her regular clients

CleverButScatty · 03/06/2025 09:31

holamuchgusto · 03/06/2025 08:50

Our expectation is that you take emergency parental leave for one day and make arrangements for the next day. You cannot expect to take endless days of parental leave. Why can't your daughter go to school? If it's just a cold, there is no reason at all.

It's clearly outside some people's experience that she may have noone to babysit, however many days it takes.

Jellycatspyjamas · 03/06/2025 09:32

ButterCrackers · 03/06/2025 09:28

Do you expect single parents to not have a job then? Isn’t it basic thinking to have a support network in place of paid childcare especially if you don’t have family to rely on?

Which is great until it changes. I had a network of paid childcare, friends who could step in. Until Covid when my two sets of paid childcare retired, there was no availability in my area for a good two years post civid, my DD with complex needs reached 12 and no one would care for her and my friends had family pressures of their own.

It’s very difficult to build a new network when your kids are older but not old enough or able enough to be left alone.

ButterCrackers · 03/06/2025 09:32

CleverButScatty · 03/06/2025 09:30

Where are people meant to magic up a support network from?

Having a look up on local babysitter organisations for starters.

inamarina · 03/06/2025 09:32

ButterCrackers · 03/06/2025 09:19

Have a think. Organise in advance. Or course you don’t know when your child will be sick but you can arrange a support network of paid child carers.

But would those people just sit around and wait in case OP’s child gets sick?
Surely they’d more likely to be engaged elsewhere at such short notice.
So it would have to be some random babysitter from an agency (if at all).

ButterCrackers · 03/06/2025 09:34

LowDownBoyStandUpGuy · 03/06/2025 09:30

This has given me the absolute rage on MN for years …’just phone an emergency babysitter/nanny’ these things don’t exist there is no resource at all for looking after sick children at short notice, ffs, childcare providers send children home to their parents when they are ill, no one wants to be dealing with sick kids.

Even worse was on here during the Covid lockdown people were telling those who were struggling to wfh with toddlers to hire a fucking nanny! Yes we are all locked in our homes with no travel allowed but I’m sure there are exceptions for these unicorn Nannie’s who obviously don’t want to spend lockdown with their own families but would rather break the law by going to live with people they have never met and of course work for free because most people can’t actually afford full time live in Nannie’s.

This isn’t about Covid times. Have a look locally and these child carers exist.

HappilyDivorced89 · 03/06/2025 09:35

I wouldn't take it personally OP. She's probably just stressed at having to find cover for the day (on top of other people being off as well - I wouldn't envy her position on that day!) and she didn't hide it well over the phone. Don't do or say anything as you've done nothing wrong.

inamarina · 03/06/2025 09:35

ButterCrackers · 03/06/2025 09:20

I’d expect my dentist to have a support network to deal with runny nose etc.

And if they don’t? Single parent, no family nearby?
And how would you know whether it’s a runny nose or something worse?

LowDownBoyStandUpGuy · 03/06/2025 09:35

ButterCrackers · 03/06/2025 09:32

Having a look up on local babysitter organisations for starters.

I’ve just googled ‘local babysitters’ and there are none here so again what is someone supposed to do? There is not some huge list of people sitting waiting by the phone to drop everything on one days notice and spend the day cleaning up some random child’s vomit.

GertieLawrence · 03/06/2025 09:37

inamarina · 03/06/2025 09:32

But would those people just sit around and wait in case OP’s child gets sick?
Surely they’d more likely to be engaged elsewhere at such short notice.
So it would have to be some random babysitter from an agency (if at all).

Absolutely agree that it’s a nonsensical viewpoint.

However - it’s not the employer’s problem. It’s a problem the employer will want you to solve, basically.

LowDownBoyStandUpGuy · 03/06/2025 09:37

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K0OLA1D · 03/06/2025 09:38

ButterCrackers · 03/06/2025 09:19

Have a think. Organise in advance. Or course you don’t know when your child will be sick but you can arrange a support network of paid child carers.

Is Mars nice this time of year?

ButterCrackers · 03/06/2025 09:39

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You speak about yourself in your first question. I’ve not bothered to read the rest of your drivel.

Shittyhouse · 03/06/2025 09:40

ButterCrackers · 03/06/2025 09:32

Having a look up on local babysitter organisations for starters.

A good babysitter will have regular clients to look after. If a babysitter is suddenly available to care for a random sick child, it’s a red flag and may not be safe to leave your child with this person

Carriemac · 03/06/2025 09:40

inamarina · 03/06/2025 09:32

But would those people just sit around and wait in case OP’s child gets sick?
Surely they’d more likely to be engaged elsewhere at such short notice.
So it would have to be some random babysitter from an agency (if at all).

I had an lady - a neighbour who used to babysit for me when mine weee small and would sit with a sick child for me if I had to to work. I paid her well and the kids were fond of her . You need a network, barring one day emergency leave a sick child is not your employers problem

ButterCrackers · 03/06/2025 09:40

K0OLA1D · 03/06/2025 09:38

Is Mars nice this time of year?

Tell me! Another women should stay at home poster…

Dodgethis · 03/06/2025 09:41

GRex · 03/06/2025 05:49

Well, they will need to cover that. OP isn't immune from becoming ill. The point with the emergency leave is that it isn't preventable, but people are genuinely expected to get back to work as soon as they can, so that first day off involves trying to get childcare. We haven't heard yet if OP has tried babysitters.

Do you leave your 4 year old old with a stranger when they are ill?

ButterCrackers · 03/06/2025 09:41

Carriemac · 03/06/2025 09:40

I had an lady - a neighbour who used to babysit for me when mine weee small and would sit with a sick child for me if I had to to work. I paid her well and the kids were fond of her . You need a network, barring one day emergency leave a sick child is not your employers problem

Exactly but many here think that single parents don’t need such a network and/or it doesn’t exist.

ButterCrackers · 03/06/2025 09:42

Dodgethis · 03/06/2025 09:41

Do you leave your 4 year old old with a stranger when they are ill?

Did you?

Saladleaves17 · 03/06/2025 09:42

To be honest, peoples opinions on this about getting a babysitter etc don’t really matter. What matters is the law. Emergency parental leave is for just that - unexpected emergencies. You’re entitled to it for a reasonable amount of time which isn’t set in law as a specific amount of time, but 1 or 2 days most employers would considerable to be reasonable, sometimes longer if something serious has happened (which it doesn’t sound like it has), but after that your employer is within their rights to expect you to get back to work or you will need to take unpaid leave/annual leave to cover your absence.

You need to use the time you have today to find alternative childcare arrangements for your child, ie family/friends/external childcare etc as you have a commitment to work and if you can’t find that cover you need to let your employer know asap. It’s not nice, I’m a mum too so I know how challenging it is when they are ill and you need to juggle both, but unfortunately that’s life.

That being said, it’s not your problem other people are also off sick and that should have been kept quiet. I would imagine after receiving several calls this morning from several members of staff your manager just let her emotions out really without thinking and sighed a bit prematurely whilst hanging up.

Bbq1 · 03/06/2025 09:44

GRex · 02/06/2025 23:04

It is normal to be expected to try to find some other childcare for run of the mill illnesses. Can your ex do a day? Do you have the funds to book a babysitting service like Koru / sitters / etc? Or is there any work you could do from home to be useful while not fully present? You can use the emergency parental leave, but trying to minimise how much time you take is a fair expectation from employers.

I wouldn't read too much into her sighing, she told you that a bunch of people are off, she's having a really shitty day with a lot to sort out. Don't take her stress reaction personally unless she actually creates an issue when you return to work.

I sympathise with Op's position and think she should hold firm for PL but I don't think you can expect s sitter you've never met before to care for your sick child.

K0OLA1D · 03/06/2025 09:45

ButterCrackers · 03/06/2025 09:40

Tell me! Another women should stay at home poster…

Well its you that's living on another planet. I can wfh now, but would have stopped off, as would dp. I also had my parents/in laws and my nan. So I have a network. I know people that don't and would never in a million years call a random person to babysit their young, sick child.

PrettyPuss · 03/06/2025 09:45

I have always said that my children come first. Luckily, I have a great manager but OP, it is not your fault that there are others off sick and that your work can't cover it. Look after your daughter and don't feel guilty.

Blueberry111 · 03/06/2025 09:45

Take her in with you at work and look after her there, make her lie on the floor if needed to rest and let everyone at work know your boss forced you to come it so you didn’t have a choice and make your boss feel guilty. Makes me mad the lack of understanding from employers for parents. So greedy and selfish they are.

ButterCrackers · 03/06/2025 09:46

LowDownBoyStandUpGuy · 03/06/2025 09:35

I’ve just googled ‘local babysitters’ and there are none here so again what is someone supposed to do? There is not some huge list of people sitting waiting by the phone to drop everything on one days notice and spend the day cleaning up some random child’s vomit.

Take a deep dive into local childcare resources. You’ll need to contact child carers and babysitters. Unless you live remotely there should be local help available. Ask at work what others have for paid childcare. It’s difficult to build a support network as it invokes time and planning but it’s definitely achievable.

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