To think that women (or men) who drop their kids off at school in PJS, go shopping in Tesco in pj's and come down to the breakfast in a hotel in pj's are wrong in the head?

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I visited Amsterdam last year and was shocked to see an apparently middle class women coming down to breakfast in her pj's,dressing gown and slippers. Similarly going round Tescos where there are people, especially women in pj's and slippers. No doubt I'll be called an old right wing fascist or something.

What’s Essex got to do with anything?

Sheer laziness. There's 3 or 4 mums that regularly do the school run in pjs, I cannot understand it. Even if you have multiple children to get out the door in the morning it takes seconds to chuck on a pair of leggings and a hoodie while they're eating breakfast, or get up 10 minutes earlier.

Teachers are held to high standards and are getting paid to teach your kids. Mums are dropping their kids off. That is all they need to do. Make sure they are on time and have what they need with them.

As long as I don't smell anything coming off people I don't really care. One lady at the shop in her dressing gown had the most horrific smell to her. On the school run- at least they are bothering to get their kids to school. I know many barely even bother. That's a bigger issue.
The lady in the pj's and high ends heels sounds gloriously batshit crazy though. I don't think I'd have been able to wipe the grin off my face looking at her. What next, feather boa and bikini at the beach?

Lol most people I know who nip to the shop with coats over their pjs are social workers/nurses/paramedics. the ones that worked overtime or 4x12 hr shifts and realise they are out of milk/bread or other essential when they wake up

What if you haven't got any clothes clean? Some people, lots of people in fact, have big struggles going on in their lives. It's so shit having to try and teach basic empathy to fully grown adults on threads like these. Newsflash!! People have different lives and different challenges.

Dc went to a fabulous nursery that was next to a primary school. When looking at schools, that school wasn’t on my list. Dh said we should look - I said, we can look but dd isn’t going there. He was confused until one morning he came with me to drop dd at nursery. Half the mums showed up to drop off at the school in pjs. So yes, I did judge.

There are standards all around the world. In every culture it would be unusual to see people in sleepwear unless they were ill. Most people would assume there was something going on and make a judgement.

Well, you say that but this is a popular thing where I live and there was an interview in the local paper with someone saying she gets changed into her “best pyjamas” to go out and they’re not the ones she sleeps in. Sadly the obvious question of why don’t you just put clothes on wasn’t asked in response 😂

I think Essex is often associated with this sort of PJ wearing TOWIE style stuf. If it’s not, I’ve been on the end of ten thousand too many Essex girl jokes (I’m not from Essex)

For some it could be laziness. Others its just a different lifestyle. And then there are the ones who can barely make it out of bed and are just holding things together by the tiniest of threads, and going out at all is a huge achievement so getting out of PJs is not even on their radar.

The nurses I know wouldn’t do that. Interesting theory - what are you basing that on? I don’t know social workers or many paramedics. The women I knew in the pj school run brigade didn’t work (this was confirmed by the head teacher who I’m friends with).

At one school I worked at, they had a pyjama day. I bought new pyjamas, had layers underneath and a coat on top, but it just felt wrong all day.

I see someone has already reported this thread which is just discussing a behaviour occurring up and down the country.

I hope this is satire because otherwise it’s really mean and uncalled for.

That's a very specific situation, I wouldn't expect you to get dressed in that situation or if your house was on fire for example. Also I can't stop you doing whatever the hell you choose to do but I do think it shows a lack of self respect to go to the shops in your night clothes, many people do it so you aren't alone but I don't think it should become so normalised that everyone does it. You don't need to put on make up or jewellery even just a tracksuit is better than your night clothes.

That doesn’t make sense? The equivalent would be if your child’s teacher was dropping her own children off at school in her pjs surely?

I have never known anybody wear their pjs to work (I’ve also not seen anyone wear pjs on the nursery run, in a shop, or at a hotel breakfast - we obviously don’t socialise in the same circles), I’ve seen people wear gym kit on their way to work/nursery (via the gym or just going for a run). I’ve sometimes work gym kit when dropping off my child if I have a late meeting and can fit in some exercise before work.

That was before my time but fine do what you want but I think many will think it shows a lack of self respect and I don't think it should become the norm. Standards exist for a reason.

Its a very low bar some people are referencing here.

'At least they bothered to get their kids to school'.

Erm well yes, thats your job as a parent. Its not something special or above the norm.

Interestingly it is mainly women I see doing this, I cant remember the last time I saw a man in night clothes/dressing gown down the shops or walking out and about. I see a lot of it from women though. Men have their own different grotty habits.

Usually threads are bemoaning that we have a low bar and low standards for men when they're being grotty and lazy, when women do it the thread is full of 'it might be MH, they live a 'diverse life', they have 'struggles'.

Excuses made all the time.

It's not uncommon to see women (often with pushchairs) walking through the centre of our market town (no schools, nurseries or housing nearby) in full PJs and dressing gowns.

Don't think I've ever seen a man do it though.

I have MH issues so have a lack of respect for myself. I don't have the energy to give a fuck what other people think of me in my PJs.
At times, the fact I get out the house and can get a pint of milk is the real triumph for me... not whether I could put joggers on.
PJs/joggers... both cover my legs and serve the same purpose. Changing them is for other people, not me.
Judge away, I don't care. I got out, and that is what counts for me.

I really couldn't give two hoots how anyone dresses.

FWIW the people I know who have worn PJs on the school run have generally had physical or mental health difficulties. One mum I knew a while back struggled so much to get up and out in the morning and I was so bloody proud of her for managing it for her child even in her PJs.

I also wore PJ bottoms on the school run for a week, I was a struggling single parent who ended up on crutches and the only bottoms I had that were baggy enough for my cast were PJ bottoms and I couldn't afford new clothes.

If its just because someone can't be arsed getting dressed then I don't have an issue with that either. PJs are comfy.

To be fair though, it’s mainly women doing the food shop and the school run.

It’s a completely different culture. If you’re out of bed and leaving the house, it’s presumed you need to dress accordingly. Schools also don’t have uniforms so there’s a much bigger interest and emphasis on style. And the schools that do have uniforms, no one’s rolling up their skirts to their waist and look ridiculous.

Saying that, I’m halfway with you. You’re not wrong, but only to a point. There’s perfectly good loungewear and athleisure fashion that could easily be worn in school runs or shopping. Not every activity requires makeup and jewellery. Many jobs don’t even allow jewellery, so why would people wear it?

What kind of hotels do you go to?
I’ve never witnessed that.