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To think that women (or men) who drop their kids off at school in PJS, go shopping in Tesco in pj's and come down to the breakfast in a hotel in pj's are wrong in the head?

784 replies

YourAmplePlumPoster · 29/05/2025 19:22

I visited Amsterdam last year and was shocked to see an apparently middle class women coming down to breakfast in her pj's,dressing gown and slippers. Similarly going round Tescos where there are people, especially women in pj's and slippers. No doubt I'll be called an old right wing fascist or something.

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localnotail · 30/05/2025 14:52

Dangermoo · 30/05/2025 08:14

piss smelling old homeless looking man

What a lovely way to describe a vulnerable member of society.

Sooooo good to feel self righteous if you don't have to share a packed bus with someone who doesn't wash and pisses themselves.

How do you know me and my kids are not vulnerable?

MatildaMovesMountains · 30/05/2025 14:56

localnotail · 30/05/2025 14:52

Sooooo good to feel self righteous if you don't have to share a packed bus with someone who doesn't wash and pisses themselves.

How do you know me and my kids are not vulnerable?

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😬

ruethewhirl · 30/05/2025 15:00

WiddlinDiddlin · 30/05/2025 14:43

Theres your ableism showing...

You assume that because it doesn't take you long to have a quick wash and change clothes, it's the same for everyone.

It takes me about an hour and a half to get up, washed and fully dressed, hair brushed and up etc. And thats in my 'PJ adjacent' clothing which is all selected as it is easy to get on/off.

If it's a hair wash day add another 40 minutes.

And that doesn't take into account the pain and the fatigue all that causes.

Being fully clothed in clothing you don't think is 'outdoor wear' is absolutely not the equivalent of walking around naked.

Completely agree. It sounds a lot harder for you than it is for me, but on a day when my RA pain is flaring it takes me much longer to get ready for the day than it would take most people and every movement hurts. I sleep in leggings and a T-shirt now, partly in case I need to answer the door or interact with my DM's carer (DM lives with me) before I'm able to shower and dress. Generally speaking people with no pain/health/mobility issues really seem to struggle to understand how much energy has to be mustered up for the most basic tasks for some of us.

ObelixtheGaul · 30/05/2025 15:03

YourAmplePlumPoster · 30/05/2025 14:33

We're not talking about people who are unwell. We're talking about people who are on holiday or out shopping who are so infantilised that they think they don't have to get dressed and have a shower, a bit like a 7 year old on a bad day. Its my yuman rites, innit. Anyway, I'm glad to see that these American habits are not catching on over in Europe. They seem to have more self respect.

Nobody is forcing you to do it, are they? Your 'self-respect' is your business. Somebody else may not equate attire with 'self-respect' in the same way.

You are not going to be physically injured by seeing a person in pyjamas. It really shouldn't matter this much to you.

Their bodies are covered. It is no more unhygienic than sitting down in yesterday's trousers and top that they wore for a sweaty couple of hours in the car driving to the hotel, or on the train where they could have picked up bedbugs.

It's not something I have done, I don't even own pyjamas. But I don't understand why what other people wear is this much of a concern.

Never mind society for a minute. Tell me, in your own words, in what way this harms you on a personal level? What about this particular human behaviour cannot simply be ignored whilst you get on with your day?

ruethewhirl · 30/05/2025 15:04

localnotail · 30/05/2025 14:52

Sooooo good to feel self righteous if you don't have to share a packed bus with someone who doesn't wash and pisses themselves.

How do you know me and my kids are not vulnerable?

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Well, are you?

Whether or not you are, I'd hazard a guess that it's a damn sight easier for you to find somewhere to wash your clothes/body than it is for a homeless person.

Dangermoo · 30/05/2025 15:06

localnotail · 30/05/2025 14:52

Sooooo good to feel self righteous if you don't have to share a packed bus with someone who doesn't wash and pisses themselves.

How do you know me and my kids are not vulnerable?

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Is that really the worst that's ever happened to you?

👑 👸

YourAmplePlumPoster · 30/05/2025 15:07

I'm about to go to my optician for a check up. I will, of course, be wearing my Jim jams just as I do when I go for appointments with the doctor, dentist, hospital and job interviews. I'm sure most posters here do this 😅🤪

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CloudywMeatballs · 30/05/2025 15:19

YourAmplePlumPoster · 30/05/2025 15:07

I'm about to go to my optician for a check up. I will, of course, be wearing my Jim jams just as I do when I go for appointments with the doctor, dentist, hospital and job interviews. I'm sure most posters here do this 😅🤪

Can you really not see the difference between leaving the house for this kind of appointment, and leaving the house to drop your kids off at school, or going downstairs to the hotel lobby to get breakfast?

ObelixtheGaul · 30/05/2025 15:43

YourAmplePlumPoster · 30/05/2025 15:07

I'm about to go to my optician for a check up. I will, of course, be wearing my Jim jams just as I do when I go for appointments with the doctor, dentist, hospital and job interviews. I'm sure most posters here do this 😅🤪

Again, why does it concern you if they did. You aren't doing it. Nobody has told you you should be doing it, so I am still wondering why what other people choose to wear is of such a concern to you.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 30/05/2025 15:58

ObelixtheGaul · 30/05/2025 15:43

Again, why does it concern you if they did. You aren't doing it. Nobody has told you you should be doing it, so I am still wondering why what other people choose to wear is of such a concern to you.

OP has also only seen one person eat breakfast in a hotel in their pjs. And apparently is now mortally offended that anyone might go anywhere in PJ's.

MatildaMovesMountains · 30/05/2025 16:12

YourAmplePlumPoster · 30/05/2025 15:07

I'm about to go to my optician for a check up. I will, of course, be wearing my Jim jams just as I do when I go for appointments with the doctor, dentist, hospital and job interviews. I'm sure most posters here do this 😅🤪

Moving the goalposts a bit, are we? 🤪

Dangermoo · 30/05/2025 16:16

MatildaMovesMountains · 30/05/2025 16:12

Moving the goalposts a bit, are we? 🤪

😆 🤣 😂 moving them back to Reddit - with any luck.

ObelixtheGaul · 30/05/2025 16:26

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 30/05/2025 15:58

OP has also only seen one person eat breakfast in a hotel in their pjs. And apparently is now mortally offended that anyone might go anywhere in PJ's.

Quite. And has made the giant leap to anyone not being bothered by this must be happily attending interviews in PJs.

FruityCider · 30/05/2025 16:32

Not only have I done this a few times, (in hotels) I actually washed and got changed in to fresh PJs to do it. I love wafting about in PJs in the morning, but don't sleep in clothes.

My favourite time was in a very swanky place, in satin PJs, on the terrace in the sun eating my scrambled eggs, before retiring to my room/balcony with the newspaper crossword and a mimosa. Bliss.

Wonderful to see how I long may have lived rent-free in people's heads 😄

localnotail · 30/05/2025 16:55

ruethewhirl · 30/05/2025 15:04

Well, are you?

Whether or not you are, I'd hazard a guess that it's a damn sight easier for you to find somewhere to wash your clothes/body than it is for a homeless person.

I would not stop smelly homeless person from using the bus - its their right and the nature/ purpose of the public transport. The fact they smell bad and are gross - well, its life... its not like I'm going to discriminate or abuse them over it.

My original comment was re someone sitting in their bed clothes on the piss stained seat and then, I assume, going to bed wearing the same clothes. Its not something I would consider hygienic, but seems a lot of people on here would not mind. I normally get changes once I get home, and would never sit on my bed wearing "street clothes". But everyone's standards are different, I know that.

JazbayGrapes · 30/05/2025 16:58

School or corner shop - don't see a problem.
Big shopping or town - pretty strange.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 30/05/2025 17:07

FruityCider · 30/05/2025 16:32

Not only have I done this a few times, (in hotels) I actually washed and got changed in to fresh PJs to do it. I love wafting about in PJs in the morning, but don't sleep in clothes.

My favourite time was in a very swanky place, in satin PJs, on the terrace in the sun eating my scrambled eggs, before retiring to my room/balcony with the newspaper crossword and a mimosa. Bliss.

Wonderful to see how I long may have lived rent-free in people's heads 😄

Edited

So why didn't you get washed and changed into fresh normal clothes seeing as you're capable of doing it. I can only assume that people going down to brekkie in pj's fresh out of bed in a hotel or a shop don't know how to wash or dress themselves like a small child. It's childish, infantile behaviour.

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MatildaMovesMountains · 30/05/2025 17:09

YourAmplePlumPoster · 30/05/2025 17:07

So why didn't you get washed and changed into fresh normal clothes seeing as you're capable of doing it. I can only assume that people going down to brekkie in pj's fresh out of bed in a hotel or a shop don't know how to wash or dress themselves like a small child. It's childish, infantile behaviour.

Your obsession with other people's sartorial choices is really weird.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 30/05/2025 17:11

I also bought satin pj's. They could possibly pass as evening wear. Not so much the Disney or snoopy ones, or the ones tightly fitting around an 18 stone body. Anyone remember when pubs banned 20 stone men from coming in shirtless with their builder's crack on display? I seem to remember some protest about that 🤔 😀

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YourAmplePlumPoster · 30/05/2025 17:12

Pj's are for the home. Pj's are for the home. What person doesn't understand this?

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Needmorelego · 30/05/2025 17:15

Silk floaty pjs are beautiful.
Much more beautiful than some "smart" outfits other people wear.
More comfortable too.
But why do you actually care so much?
Really what actual difference does it make to YOU?
Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 30/05/2025 17:15

localnotail · 30/05/2025 14:52

Sooooo good to feel self righteous if you don't have to share a packed bus with someone who doesn't wash and pisses themselves.

How do you know me and my kids are not vulnerable?

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Okay, not the best description, however I agree with you that sitting beside someone who stinks on public transport is horrendous.

I have no idea if the man who sat beside me recently was homeless, his grey tracksuit bottoms and trainers were clean-ish, he stank of stale piss, stale alcohol, his finger nails were filthy, he sat beside me for 8 stops, I didn't want to offend him by opening the windows, I was dizzy holding my breath. I live in the city, there is homeless facilities for showers and clean clothing 5 minutes away.

Vile.

WhereHasMyPlanetGone · 30/05/2025 17:15

YourAmplePlumPoster · 30/05/2025 17:11

I also bought satin pj's. They could possibly pass as evening wear. Not so much the Disney or snoopy ones, or the ones tightly fitting around an 18 stone body. Anyone remember when pubs banned 20 stone men from coming in shirtless with their builder's crack on display? I seem to remember some protest about that 🤔 😀

They only banned 20 stone men? Or everyone?

beesandstrawberries · 30/05/2025 17:16

I agree. I’ve literally had major life changing surgery and a week later whilst feeling the worst I’ve ever felt, I've still got myself dressed and done the school run whilst on crutches - fully presentable in clothes. There is no reason for it, it’s embarassing. I knew someone who would say ‘I don’t give a fuck what people think of me’ and wear he dressing gown whilst doing her Tesco shop each week. I could never understand what she was gaining by wearing that instead of putting a coat on instead

Asdada · 30/05/2025 17:25

Needmorelego · 30/05/2025 17:15

Silk floaty pjs are beautiful.
Much more beautiful than some "smart" outfits other people wear.
More comfortable too.
But why do you actually care so much?
Really what actual difference does it make to YOU?
Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

Other members of the public have to look at you in your PJs though. It’s disgusting and depressing and I’d be asking for a refund from any hotel that allows it. No chance I’d turn a blind eye. I don’t eat breakfast with a view of anyone in PJs even if I’m related to them.