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To think that women (or men) who drop their kids off at school in PJS, go shopping in Tesco in pj's and come down to the breakfast in a hotel in pj's are wrong in the head?

784 replies

YourAmplePlumPoster · 29/05/2025 19:22

I visited Amsterdam last year and was shocked to see an apparently middle class women coming down to breakfast in her pj's,dressing gown and slippers. Similarly going round Tescos where there are people, especially women in pj's and slippers. No doubt I'll be called an old right wing fascist or something.

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Trendyname · 30/05/2025 02:42

Pistachiocake · 29/05/2025 23:38

To be fair, some of the clothes advertised as day clothes look like PJs, and some people with say that at least PJs cover more up...and when you look at photos of people on their seaside holidays, even in the 70s, they're all so smart, most of the men in suits and ties, women in smart dresses and heels (yes, some wore what we think of as more casual 70s things, but a LOT were very formal)...well they'd probably be shocked to see how most of us dress now.
I believe a headteacher once asked parents not to drop off in PJs, not sure what happened. I wouldn't do it, but then I've always had to go to work straight after so I couldn't-some of the parents who do say what's the point getting dressed as they want to get home and back to bed asap. Maybe some of the people on holiday are intending to have another snooze, but have to come down for breakfast because there's no room service/a time limit? No, I wouldn't do it (clothes for bed shouldn't go outside in my opinion), but that's only my view.

I agree with this.

NattyTurtle59 · 30/05/2025 02:45

It's not something I would ever do, but I voted YABU as they are not "wrong in the head" - any more than those who think they simply couldn't leave the house without their make-up. It's just different choices, and as long as they aren't harming anyone then they can do whatever they like.

HereWeGoOverAndAgain · 30/05/2025 03:02

Paramedic here. You’d die if you saw me on the school run half of the time. Even sometimes, shock horror at school pickup!

I’ll just have worked a 12.5-16hr shift or thereabouts, come home, had a shower and jumped into PJs before getting into bed, sometimes only for an hour, setting an alarm to wake in time to get my kids fed, dressed and out the door into the car to school, and back to walk straight back in the door and into bed, to get some much needed sleep, before starting the whole thing again in 6hrs time!

Or I’ll have been in bed for 4hrs, only to have to set an alarm to collect them from school, again in PJs so I can come back and get another hour before I need to get up to get their dinner ready before I head out for another long arse shift overnight trying my damn best to look after and save the lives of people in my community.

So sue me for being seen in PJs in my car on the school run! I’m far from fucking lazy or dirty or slovenly. I’m a fucking hard working widowed mother, doing my best to raise my children, give them the life they deserve and pay my mortgage.

WhateverWheneverWherever · 30/05/2025 03:49

I don't care what other people wear. I wouldn't wear PJs outside myself as it would make me feel weird, although I've only seen that happen in hotels.
But I don't understand the claims of it being dirty, do you all sleep in filthy beds or something? Putting the jeans that you've worn outside all day yesterday is probably far dirtier. Although now I'm going to incite the wash everything after one day crew.

Liesontoast · 30/05/2025 05:51

I think it’s weird that you care that much. How does it affect you in anyway? Avert your eyes if it’s too painful to see pyjamas in public.

Helpmeplease2025 · 30/05/2025 06:09

It’s grim. Especially as they never seem to be nice pyjamas either. Usually adult Disney horrors from Primark. I think DH would think I’d had a mental breakdown if I appeared wearing these.

PinkCrochet · 30/05/2025 06:16

I have never had a pj day. Never eaten breakfast in my pyjamas. I have to be be up and dressed. I don’t think I could leave the house in pyjamas at all, even to empty the bin. I would feel so self-conscious! We are all clearly very different.

Parker231 · 30/05/2025 06:17

YourAmplePlumPoster · 29/05/2025 19:28

How does a child feel being dropped off at school by a parent who can't even make an effort to look presentable. Personally, I don't go out unless I have make up on and am wearing jewellery and nice clothes. What's wrong with that?

I would always get properly dressed before going out but make up and jewellery aren’t a part of that. I don’t wear makeup or jewellery - am perfectly presentable without needing to.

ChocolateGanache · 30/05/2025 06:43

The slovenly slatterns should give their heads a wobble, eleventy billion times!!!!
(clutches pearls and faints!) 🙀🙀🙀

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 30/05/2025 06:49

YourAmplePlumPoster · 29/05/2025 19:28

How does a child feel being dropped off at school by a parent who can't even make an effort to look presentable. Personally, I don't go out unless I have make up on and am wearing jewellery and nice clothes. What's wrong with that?

Why do you need jewellery and nice clothes to do the school run or have breakfast?

There's an in between. Not PJ's but haven't spent half your morning getting "done up". School (nursery here) run in jeans and a hoody, but I'll be clean. Unless it's an in office day, in which case it'll be office attire, make up, jewellery etc for the drop off because it's on the way.

Figcherry · 30/05/2025 06:56

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 29/05/2025 22:10

I'll make sure I wear a sign if it happens again - 'to all the judgemental twats, I had surgery last week and don't have any comfortable trousers'

It’s the least you can do. 😂

HaddawayAndShite · 30/05/2025 06:57

YourAmplePlumPoster · 29/05/2025 20:20

Basic decorum has gone out of the window it seems. Hotels and pubs are already clamping down on this. This lady i saw in the Amsterdam hotel seemed to be an entitled middle class woman and was going around the whole

Yes decorum has absolutely gone out the window. Calling someone wrong in the head is ableist and ignorant, not how one should act at all. Shame on you.

LadyGillingham · 30/05/2025 07:09

YourAmplePlumPoster · 29/05/2025 19:28

How does a child feel being dropped off at school by a parent who can't even make an effort to look presentable. Personally, I don't go out unless I have make up on and am wearing jewellery and nice clothes. What's wrong with that?

such a shallow way of seeing and putting things!! My child knows I care and I put in efforts into things that matter. Making sure my kids thrive emotionally and academically, settling them up for life financially. Although I don’t go to school in pyjamas, I don’t do make up / jewellery etc for school drop offs! If I went in Pyjamas, my kids care a shit as all of us are reasonably secure in our own skin - we don’t feel the need to paint our faces first thing in the morning - no !!

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 30/05/2025 07:11

plantsnpants · 29/05/2025 22:56

I have done the school run in pjs when I was on nights and literally had from drop off at school to pick up to sleep, couldn’t wear my work uniform so I would get home from work, shower and put pjs on- drop kids at school (would try to hide pjs under my coat) and then come home and go to bed

lots of shift workers do this

Have done lots of shift work and know many who do too, but not a single one who doesn't change to do the school run.

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 30/05/2025 07:14

Stressmode · 29/05/2025 22:20

The secret is to wear tracksuit bottoms, leggings, t shirts and hoodies etc as your PJ’s then no one knows. They see you in them bright and early and think it is gym related.

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I had a driving instructor who did this, you can tell if someone's in their bed clothes, the clothes don't sit as well and there's a bed whiff to accompany it.
🤮

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 30/05/2025 07:23

HereWeGoOverAndAgain · 30/05/2025 03:02

Paramedic here. You’d die if you saw me on the school run half of the time. Even sometimes, shock horror at school pickup!

I’ll just have worked a 12.5-16hr shift or thereabouts, come home, had a shower and jumped into PJs before getting into bed, sometimes only for an hour, setting an alarm to wake in time to get my kids fed, dressed and out the door into the car to school, and back to walk straight back in the door and into bed, to get some much needed sleep, before starting the whole thing again in 6hrs time!

Or I’ll have been in bed for 4hrs, only to have to set an alarm to collect them from school, again in PJs so I can come back and get another hour before I need to get up to get their dinner ready before I head out for another long arse shift overnight trying my damn best to look after and save the lives of people in my community.

So sue me for being seen in PJs in my car on the school run! I’m far from fucking lazy or dirty or slovenly. I’m a fucking hard working widowed mother, doing my best to raise my children, give them the life they deserve and pay my mortgage.

So are many other people, but wearing pj's is a choice, nothing to do with your job.

Not every single mother shift worker wears pj's out.

Have done the nights shifts, the sleepless nights etc but would never be out in pyjamas.

I do have a neighbour who's an A&E doctor, always well turned out for drop off and pick ups despite the job.

CiaoMeow · 30/05/2025 07:23

LadyRoughDiamond · 30/05/2025 01:36

I truly believe that this is harmful to society. The normalisation of a slovenly appearance is damaging to the aspirations, mental health and work ethic of society in general.

We already have a huge number of people who are not engaging in work or training in this country. Normalising a lifestyle where people don’t get dressed reinforces a lack of engagement. It becomes a symbol of this lifestyle.

I agree with you 100%. Some people can seem to normalise and justify just about anything. There seems to be no bar too low.

Vivienne1000 · 30/05/2025 07:26

It’s simple. They have no respect for themselves or others. It’s an arrogance in which they feel they can wear what they like. We get parents coming to school and turning up in reception in their pyjamas. Imagine what other teenagers think of that parent. It’s hicky and there is no excuse.

NebulousWhistler · 30/05/2025 07:30

YourAmplePlumPoster · 29/05/2025 20:20

Basic decorum has gone out of the window it seems. Hotels and pubs are already clamping down on this. This lady i saw in the Amsterdam hotel seemed to be an entitled middle class woman and was going around the whole

Out of interest, how do you know she is middle class?
Are the middle classes more worthy of ire than the working classes? Because the MC should know better than the slovenly working classes?

I do agree with you though but I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone in PJs in my local Waitrose or M&S or on the school run.

MatildaMovesMountains · 30/05/2025 07:40

YourAmplePlumPoster · 29/05/2025 19:28

How does a child feel being dropped off at school by a parent who can't even make an effort to look presentable. Personally, I don't go out unless I have make up on and am wearing jewellery and nice clothes. What's wrong with that?

But do you wear a hat? Nice ladies don't go out bareheaded.

MatildaMovesMountains · 30/05/2025 07:41

YourAmplePlumPoster · 29/05/2025 19:28

How does a child feel being dropped off at school by a parent who can't even make an effort to look presentable. Personally, I don't go out unless I have make up on and am wearing jewellery and nice clothes. What's wrong with that?

Oh, and gloves? Kid, glacé, no one wants to see your hands. Standards are so low these days.

MatildaMovesMountains · 30/05/2025 07:43

This is me on the school run

To think that women (or men) who drop their kids off at school in PJS, go shopping in Tesco in pj's and come down to the breakfast in a hotel in pj's are wrong in the head?
tamade · 30/05/2025 07:46

I have noticed signs in hotels where I have stayed over the last couple of years; 'please no dressing gowns and slippers in the dining room'

shocked that it is necessary. And these are "nice" hotels like Park Hyatts or Intercontinental

EdithBond · 30/05/2025 07:49

YourAmplePlumPoster · 29/05/2025 21:36

No I'm sorry. The pj's thing is something fairly recent and now I've seen on the thread the usual excuses for it. However, a middle class woman with a posh accent deciding to appear in the breakfast room of an Amsterdam hotel in her pj's is some kind of statement. Personally, I think it should be stamped out. The trouble is that middle class movements filter down to the working class in the wrong kind of ways. So this is obviously a movement led by the middle class.

How exactly would you stamp it out? Who’s the arbiter of ‘acceptable’ attire?

Giving 1980s crappy nightclub bouncer vibes.

Pyjama and ‘nightie’ trends were big on the runways for Spring/Summer this year: https://www.houseofcolour.co.uk/blog/how-to-wear-springs-comfiest-trend-pyjama-dressing.

Are sliders slippers? Or do they have to be fluffy and pink to count?

When is a long belted cardigan a ‘dressing gown’? When it’s fluffy and pink?

Reminds me of back in the day, a woman was refused entry to Harrods’ for wearing ripped jeans. Turns out they were designer ripped jeans she’d bought (for hundreds of pounds)…in Harrods.

And even if people are wearing ‘unacceptable’ leisurewear, nightwear or whatever you want to call it (i.e. loose-fitting trousers and a top) out of their home or hotel room, does the rule apply equally? For example, if someone’s dragged themself from their sickbed to get their kids to school on time? Should they still be arrested by the fashion police?

I don’t see the need for people to wear make up every time they leave the house or to have breakfast in an hotel. But lots of people prefer to, as it seems you do. That’s cool with me.

To each their own.

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TiredCatLady · 30/05/2025 07:49

I grew up somewhere that it was entirely normal to see women in PJs dropping off kids to school, going shopping etc. Full face of make up but in PJs and usually Uggs or something. I used to wonder if they went home and got back into bed wearing the same grotty pyjamas they’d been on the bus in.
It was grim then and it’s grim now.