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DH throwing out my things

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fa556 · 28/05/2025 23:20

DH is a minimalist to the extreme, he has very little in terms of 'things'. Naturally I'm the opposite, a hoarder. Over the years I've conceded ground and downsized a LOT to pacify him, although it's probably fair to say that I still have too much stuff and it's also a bit messy and cluttered. Having kids has obviously brought more stuff to the house generally, but my own "stuff" is contained, with most of the house being tidy and (from my perspective at least) quite minimalist as he likes it. The "stuff" is in our bedroom (my side) to some extent, but mostly in my study which only I use.
In response to my compromises, instead of compromising too he seems to be going the other way. I'm increasingly finding my stuff in the bin, or things have just disappeared. I'm not talking about my most prized possessions, but they are things that I have bought, with my own money, for myself, that are on my side of the bedroom or in my study. I've always known not to leave things lying around in the kitchen or lounge or whatever for this reason, but it's like he's encroaching more and more on what I'd consider limited private spaces. To be fair, a lot of them are not big stuff. But even if it's just a receipt, it might be for some things I had meant to return or where I was going to claim something back as an expense. But to him, he's right and I'm wrong.
Even if it's actually something that is completely unimportant and doesn't matter to me, I still feel in principle that he shouldn't be throwing out my things from my study without checking or at the very least telling me. Am I being unreasonable?
When I pick him up on something specific, the response is always about the actual thing in question "what were you going to do with it anyway / it had a rip in it / you said yourself you have too many socks". Where for me, it's about the principle of it being up to me what to do with my own things. He says my clutter affects him as he lives here too, but he increasingly seems to be looking for it beyond surface level (while he is extremely private about his own things).
His 'need' to get rid of things also extends to perishable goods. So I might buy an expensive condiment (where he won't spend a penny more than he has to on anything), or I'll get a bottle of Baileys as a present from someone, he'll use them up as fast as he can, I'm talking days, not really 'enjoying' them as far as I can see, but just to get them out of the house. And inside I feel "hey they are my nice things", but am I just being selfish?
The other side is that I probably do have too much stuff and too much emotional attachment to 'things'. And gifts I receive like the Baileys could be in the cupboard for weeks/months otherwise. He says they're there to be used. Should I just give in?
At the moment I'm not giving in, at least not in my head, it's a huge source of frustration for me. But any effort to put a boundary in place on this, as with anything else really, is met with a bullheaded wall of stubborness ("I'm not agreeing to that"). I basically have to let it go time and again. But it's making me very anxious, what will be gone next?

OP posts:
TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 29/05/2025 00:52

Shoemadlady · 28/05/2025 23:33

You sound like a hoarder. If that’s the case I think you’re underestimating how bad it is and maybe he’s at breaking point. Maybe you can’t even see how bad it is? I couldn’t live with a hoarder either to be fair.

Agree.
You need to stop keeping stuff you don't need, which makes the place look untidy.

JustSawJohnny · 29/05/2025 00:56

If you’re getting worked up about your DH throwing away your ripped socks and receipts I reckon things are pretty bad.

I completely disagree with this.

I would never take it upon myself to throw away DH's old socks. I'd point out a hole, sure, but I'm not his Mother. As an adult, it's his decision what items of his are discarded, not mine.

Also, twisting OP's words with regards to the receipt (which she clearly stated was eg for a return item or to be claimed on expenses) is disingenuous.

FrodoBiggins · 29/05/2025 01:02

JustSawJohnny · 29/05/2025 00:56

If you’re getting worked up about your DH throwing away your ripped socks and receipts I reckon things are pretty bad.

I completely disagree with this.

I would never take it upon myself to throw away DH's old socks. I'd point out a hole, sure, but I'm not his Mother. As an adult, it's his decision what items of his are discarded, not mine.

Also, twisting OP's words with regards to the receipt (which she clearly stated was eg for a return item or to be claimed on expenses) is disingenuous.

She also didn't say her socks were ripped? She said he will throw them away because she has "too many".

merrymelody · 29/05/2025 01:02

He sounds terrifying.

ThankULord · 29/05/2025 01:06

FrodoBiggins · 29/05/2025 00:48

You'd have a mental health crisis if your partner kept the entire house clear but had a lot of stuff in their private study?

Did you note my 'if you are a hoarder'.

A hoarder's 'keep entire house clear' is not the same as someone who is not.

The perception is different.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 29/05/2025 01:08

He sounds very clearly, very abusive.

The tenfold reaction to any small reaction of yours is terrifying. It’s not way to live. This basically means he can do anything he likes to you with no repercussions.

He’s been stealing your stuff - that’s what binning it is - and you feel you can’t do anything about it.

You need to leave this man if not for your own sake, but for that of your children.

FWIW I bet you’re not a hoarder at all.

Codlingmoths · 29/05/2025 01:09

fa556 · 28/05/2025 23:44

Thanks for the support. But if I did that, the response would be colossal. Either something related but much more extreme like throwing out ALL of my somethings, or it would be something seeminly unrelated but very negative and destructive, maybe telling his family I'm not able to go with them on the extended family holiday this year or something like that. Any reaction from me to anything gets a tenfold reaction back, the only option really is to back down.

This is the problem op. Put a lock on your study door, tell him women have had property rights for decades now, and your marriage is on the rocks as he treats you like a second class human not his equal, and counselling is a requirement. If he wants to have complete control over every item in the house then he needs his own place, because you have rights in your own home, and you are done being the only person who compromises.

SammyScrounge · 29/05/2025 01:13

Shoemadlady · 28/05/2025 23:33

You sound like a hoarder. If that’s the case I think you’re underestimating how bad it is and maybe he’s at breaking point. Maybe you can’t even see how bad it is? I couldn’t live with a hoarder either to be fair.

Even if she was a hoarder no one should.be disposing of her things
My sister did that to me when I was ill. We have not spoken since.

JemimaPiddlepot · 29/05/2025 01:14

Shoemadlady · 28/05/2025 23:33

You sound like a hoarder. If that’s the case I think you’re underestimating how bad it is and maybe he’s at breaking point. Maybe you can’t even see how bad it is? I couldn’t live with a hoarder either to be fair.

This is absolute crap. There’s nothing to suggest OP is a hoarder - and even if she was, that’s for her to sort.

PyongyangKipperbang · 29/05/2025 01:15

fa556 · 28/05/2025 23:44

Thanks for the support. But if I did that, the response would be colossal. Either something related but much more extreme like throwing out ALL of my somethings, or it would be something seeminly unrelated but very negative and destructive, maybe telling his family I'm not able to go with them on the extended family holiday this year or something like that. Any reaction from me to anything gets a tenfold reaction back, the only option really is to back down.

Run away.

Why he is doing this is irrelevant, but the upshot is that you are being abused.

Back to read the rest of the thread.

user1473878824 · 29/05/2025 01:16

fa556 · 28/05/2025 23:44

Thanks for the support. But if I did that, the response would be colossal. Either something related but much more extreme like throwing out ALL of my somethings, or it would be something seeminly unrelated but very negative and destructive, maybe telling his family I'm not able to go with them on the extended family holiday this year or something like that. Any reaction from me to anything gets a tenfold reaction back, the only option really is to back down.

OP this is abuse

PyongyangKipperbang · 29/05/2025 01:20

PyongyangKipperbang · 29/05/2025 01:15

Run away.

Why he is doing this is irrelevant, but the upshot is that you are being abused.

Back to read the rest of the thread.

OK read all of you posts @fa556 and this is abuse.

Get out of this relationship, please!

JemimaPiddlepot · 29/05/2025 01:22

fa556 · 28/05/2025 23:44

Thanks for the support. But if I did that, the response would be colossal. Either something related but much more extreme like throwing out ALL of my somethings, or it would be something seeminly unrelated but very negative and destructive, maybe telling his family I'm not able to go with them on the extended family holiday this year or something like that. Any reaction from me to anything gets a tenfold reaction back, the only option really is to back down.

He sounds like an utter gobshite. The only thing you should be throwing out is him.

Cassieskinsismad · 29/05/2025 01:29

A friend gifted you Bailey's and he drank it? He stole your present 😱.

You buy expensive food and he wolfs it down quickly but never buys nice food for you to share? He doesn't GAF about you, he's selfish and miserly.

Is this the tip of the iceberg OP? All these things, including throwing out your stuff, is disrespectful.

Why is he even going into your study? Put a lock on the door and don't give him a key, don't have any more kids with him and get your ducks in a row for the day this relationship inevitably breaks down completely.

You've told him how you feel, he doesn't care. There's nothing more you can do.

He's treating you like an unwelcome guest in his bachelor pad, not a partner who he lives with. I suspect he doesn't actually like you, the real you. If he likes you at all it'll be the fantasy version in his head, the one that doesn't exist. He's getting angry because you're not her, as if that's a you problem. It's not, it's all on him.

MarinaDelRay · 29/05/2025 01:33

He sounds bloody awful. Do you actually fancy him? I can’t imagine wanting t have sex with someone who treated me like that.

ReadingSoManyThreads · 29/05/2025 01:39

This is not normal behaviour from your DH. I'm like yourself, probably worse, my husband was a minimalist when we met, he's become more lax over the years. The difference is my DH supports me with trying to get rid of some of the stuff. Sometimes I get overwhelmed, and so I need us to stop. He supports that. Sometimes I hand him a box I've gone through and know there's nothing to keep in it, and he deals with it - with my blessing.

What your DH is doing is controlling, and from reading all of your comments he really is abusive. You're not compatible, and the abuse is something you should not live with. I know you have children which makes things more difficult, but really, for their sake and yours, you should be making plans to leave him.

Firstly, you really need to realise that you are not the problem here and that your DH is abusing you.

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 29/05/2025 01:47

Don't make yourself small for other people. You deserve to take up space.

HeySugarSugar · 29/05/2025 01:48

JemimaPiddlepot · 29/05/2025 01:14

This is absolute crap. There’s nothing to suggest OP is a hoarder - and even if she was, that’s for her to sort.

OP literally says in the second sentence “I’m a hoarder”.

Lots of ignorance of hoarding on this thread but ultimately OP, your dh is behaving in a very abusive manner and your children are witnessing this. Do you have the means to separate as I can’t see this improving?

VoltaireMittyDream · 29/05/2025 01:50

JustSawJohnny · 29/05/2025 00:56

If you’re getting worked up about your DH throwing away your ripped socks and receipts I reckon things are pretty bad.

I completely disagree with this.

I would never take it upon myself to throw away DH's old socks. I'd point out a hole, sure, but I'm not his Mother. As an adult, it's his decision what items of his are discarded, not mine.

Also, twisting OP's words with regards to the receipt (which she clearly stated was eg for a return item or to be claimed on expenses) is disingenuous.

I think unless you’ve lived with a hoarder you don’t get it. There’s always a reason every receipt, bit of paper, moth-eaten scrap of old sock needs to be kept forever. It’s always minimised. It’s always ‘just a bit of clutter’ people are being anal about. Rather than an unnavigable and exponentially expanding shit tip that is suffocating everyone else who has to live there.

VoltaireMittyDream · 29/05/2025 01:55

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 29/05/2025 00:46

I don't understand why people are just assuming that he must be right and that OP is obviously a massive hoarder who needs urgent help.

It's not just a binary of either rank minimalist or buried under junk everywhere with absolutely no possible in-between. MN does seem to have 'a thing' about 'hoarding' on a par with the whole competitive undereating thing.

I always remember the thread where the OP found a shoebox containing cards that were given to her parents congratulating them on her birth, and for her christening. Her immediate response was that they were obviously rubbish, they weren't even given to her (only for her) and to even consider keeping them would be a clear sign of a problem hoarder. A surprising amount of subsequent posters agreed with her too.

I think most people are saying he’s an abusive arse. He can be an abusive arse, at the same time that she is a hoarder. It’s not a choice between one and the other.

DrDameKatyDeniseInExile · 29/05/2025 02:01

HeySugarSugar · 29/05/2025 01:48

OP literally says in the second sentence “I’m a hoarder”.

Lots of ignorance of hoarding on this thread but ultimately OP, your dh is behaving in a very abusive manner and your children are witnessing this. Do you have the means to separate as I can’t see this improving?

Edited

Lots of ignorance of hoarding on this thread

And lots of ignorance of the pain and stress of living with a hoarder too. Particularly the mental health issues that it can exacerbate especially when you have no agency or control over the situation, lest you be labelled ‘controlling’.

Kittyfleur · 29/05/2025 02:01

Sounds like my ex-husband and this was one of the main reasons why I left him.

HeySugarSugar · 29/05/2025 02:07

DrDameKatyDeniseInExile · 29/05/2025 02:01

Lots of ignorance of hoarding on this thread

And lots of ignorance of the pain and stress of living with a hoarder too. Particularly the mental health issues that it can exacerbate especially when you have no agency or control over the situation, lest you be labelled ‘controlling’.

That’s what I meant - apologies for not being clear. Hoarding is an incredibly complex mental health issue - and living with a hoarder has, as you say, a profound affect on people’s mental health too.

FrodoBiggins · 29/05/2025 02:29

ReadingSoManyThreads · 29/05/2025 01:39

This is not normal behaviour from your DH. I'm like yourself, probably worse, my husband was a minimalist when we met, he's become more lax over the years. The difference is my DH supports me with trying to get rid of some of the stuff. Sometimes I get overwhelmed, and so I need us to stop. He supports that. Sometimes I hand him a box I've gone through and know there's nothing to keep in it, and he deals with it - with my blessing.

What your DH is doing is controlling, and from reading all of your comments he really is abusive. You're not compatible, and the abuse is something you should not live with. I know you have children which makes things more difficult, but really, for their sake and yours, you should be making plans to leave him.

Firstly, you really need to realise that you are not the problem here and that your DH is abusing you.

That's exactly how I felt reading it. My OH is super understanding about my (ahem) tendencies, and actually not feeling pressured to chuck things, but gently encouraged, makes me feel a lot more ready to get rid. Thinking of the times he's patiently sat with me while we went through cupboards, even last week, compared to what OP is going through and the repercussions she fears made me so sad for her :(

Spacehop · 29/05/2025 02:53

OP do you have any trusted friends or family members. If so I would get someone else's view of whether or not you have a hoarding problem. However from your posts I think you definitely have a DH problem.

Two things suggest this: one that he uses up the treats you buy for yourself, and two, because you believe he'd be so vindictive as to exclude you from a family holiday for crossing him. The first is about depriving you of nice things, and worse making a point of using them up himself. Someone who truly loves you shows kindness and care. They would buy you the things you love, not go out of their way to take them away from you. The second is punishing and unkind. It would be like you eating your child's Easter eggs because they'd defied you in some way. It's taunting and bullying not proportionate.

You seriously need to talk this through with someone who specialises in working with domestic abuse. This situation hasn't happened overnight. He has trained you not to stand up to him. It's chilling and not the action of a loving partner. This will eat away at your self esteem and you will become a shadow of yourself because you won't feel safe in the one place you definitely should: your own home with your own husband.

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