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Peter Tatchell Arrested - Outrageous

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Everanewbie · 28/05/2025 11:54

AIBU to be outraged my Peter Tatchell's latest arrest?

For those who have not heard, the famous campaigner attended a recent Gaza protest. He held a placard that demanded Israel stop the genocide, and that Hamas are a shameful, and reiterated their official terrorist status for the torture an execution of a Palestinian man that attended an anti-Hamas demonstration in Gaza. He was arrested on the basis of inciting racial and religious hatred. The police have since apologised indicating that they believed him to be part of a counter-protest. He spent 5 hours in a cell.

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viques · 28/05/2025 14:58

RancidRuby · 28/05/2025 14:56

Breaking news - Gay men not a physical threat to anyone.

“The vast majority of gay men” . There, fixed it for you.

Tatchell and his PIE chums excepted.

JamieCannister · 28/05/2025 14:58

Everanewbie · 28/05/2025 14:56

And do the free Palestine protestors challenge every perceived injustice? Are Black Lives Matter interested in enslaved workers building stadia in Saudi Arabia?

They're considering them, but enslaved workers application to become a worthy cause is dependent on BLM working out how to monetise enslaved workers suffering for their benefit.

BelfastBard · 28/05/2025 14:59

I have no sympathy for him. They should have used his detention as an opportunity to examine his hard drive. He’s deeply deeply problematic and I have no doubt in the future he’ll be yet another to add to the list of “hidden in plain sight” celebrities who have become notorious

SammyScrounge · 28/05/2025 14:59

Surely the past reflects on his credibility?
When he spouted about friends as young as 9 having joyful experiences with older men, all I could do was wonder why the police did not investigate, get names of abusers and arrest them.
Of course PT might have invented the 'friends' and the joyous little friends to make a point.

Everanewbie · 28/05/2025 15:00

RancidRuby · 28/05/2025 14:56

Breaking news - Gay men not a physical threat to anyone.

I don't think this particular gay man in his 70s is a direct physical threat to anyone at the protest, no.

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DoubleShotEspresso · 28/05/2025 15:02

ChessorBuckaroo · 28/05/2025 14:49

Nah. Far too much credit given in that take.

For some reason I have "thick as mince" in my head.. don't know why I'd be thinking of mince although I may have some later.

It’s always a good day for Bolognaise 😉

RancidRuby · 28/05/2025 15:02

Everanewbie · 28/05/2025 15:00

I don't think this particular gay man in his 70s is a direct physical threat to anyone at the protest, no.

Know him personally do you?

lousandjays · 28/05/2025 15:04

Well done @Everanewbie for bringing up the issue of Peter Tachell it is always useful to have an opportunity to bring up his links with PIE and his support of paedohiles at every opportunity. As for caring if he gets arrested no, not really. More of that for him.

ChessorBuckaroo · 28/05/2025 15:05

JHound · 28/05/2025 14:52

So there seems to be some inconsistency in reporting and I don’t trust anything the police ever have to say.

The mystery continues.

No inconsistency at all.

He was free to express his views. After the pro Palestine protestors (the organisers no less) protested about his presence in the protest the police believing him to be a counter protestor directed him, with his placards in tow, to the counter protest.

As simple as that.

Clear as bleedin day.

He then rejoined the protest and the police arrested him "on suspicion of breaching the conditions in place and to prevent a breach of the peace."

The issue, or who the "outrage" should be aimed at, was the organisers of the protest, those who protested about his presence among them for holding an anti Hamas placard.

His views I endorse wholly, both on the crimes committed by Israel, and the crimes committed by Hamas, but having both views was too much for the pro Palestine organisers of the protest to take so they got him removed.

ChessorBuckaroo · 28/05/2025 15:06

DoubleShotEspresso · 28/05/2025 15:02

It’s always a good day for Bolognaise 😉

😁

I'd seriously love that (only have mince though)

JustHereWithMyPopcorn · 28/05/2025 15:07

Fuck PT and the horse he rode in on. I hope he's having a god awful time.

DoubleShotEspresso · 28/05/2025 15:08

Everanewbie · 28/05/2025 14:53

The point is that he is no physical threat to anyone at that protest.

This may be the case.

But as many pointed out early inbthis thread, there’s more to it.

PT was asked by police to leave one area to join a different crowd. He failed to follow these instructions, returning to the initial crowd and was arrested.

Political views wherher at a protest lawfully or not, this was guaranteed to get him arrested. Can you imagine what it’s actually like to mamage and police these events with all happening in the world?

It wasn’t his placard that got him arrested, it was perpetual need for attention and a platform, along with the belief that the law doesn’t apply to him.

Hopefully they find something that’ll stick better next time!

Everanewbie · 28/05/2025 15:12

@DoubleShotEspresso Why should he join the other crowd? He wasn't a counter protested. Police were setting the scene to nick him to avoid tackling the real issue, anti Israel fanatics.

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PickyTits · 28/05/2025 15:14

JamieCannister · 28/05/2025 14:26

By that logic you are happy for a woman to be arrested for stickering "women's rights matter". Really not the end of the world if she spends 10 hours in prison overnight and is released when the police finally work out no crime has been committed.

If the story was how OP first presented I think he could probably sue the the police for a four figure sum. If he was arrested for breach of the peace then probably not.

If that stickering was on someone elses property and they made a complaint of criminal damage then it needs to be investigated, especially if the crime is suspected of being currently in progress - if that means detaining a suspect for 10 hours while investigation takes place I'm okay with that. There is a limit on how long someone can be detained under such circumstances and I am fine with that limit.

However, I wasn't aware that Peter Tatchell was put in prison for 5 hours over this - that is something else entirely. I believed he was detained while questioned and an investigation took place. If he was indeed put in prison for 5 hours without having first been charged and convicted in a court of law then it should go without saying that is abhorrent.

orangegato · 28/05/2025 15:15

Can’t squeeze out a tear for this nasty little creature. I give as much of a fuck about his rights as he does about women’s.

SerafinasGoose · 28/05/2025 15:16

usedtobeaylis · 28/05/2025 14:52

I can't stand Tatchell, he turns my stomach, but 'you're probably guilty of something' isn't a good way to operate a justice system.

Tell that to Caroline Farrow.

Trouble is, if it's a woman and especially one who can be 'aligned' with social conservatism, nobody gives a tin shit.

DoubleShotEspresso · 28/05/2025 15:19

Everanewbie · 28/05/2025 15:12

@DoubleShotEspresso Why should he join the other crowd? He wasn't a counter protested. Police were setting the scene to nick him to avoid tackling the real issue, anti Israel fanatics.

Because he’s known to be a self-serving, attention seeking troublemaker not needed at such a contentious event.
Concerns were raised-valid requests were made. As always he pushed back & was thus rightfully detained.
It’s the equivalent of inviting Andrew Tate to join a crowd of Suffragettes.

Breach of the peace (regardless of what he or his placard stated) arrest happened becsuse he breached the peace- I am unclear what you find wrong here.

Disclaimer: I am no fan of the Met in their current form, but you must acknowledge the unenviable task they have at these protests surely?

SerafinasGoose · 28/05/2025 15:20

JHound · 28/05/2025 14:55

Whata

what a

Whataboutery.

So?

Makes a rare change from the bleating of 'but what about the men?' that permeates this site.

CapitalAtRisk · 28/05/2025 15:20

orangegato · 28/05/2025 15:15

Can’t squeeze out a tear for this nasty little creature. I give as much of a fuck about his rights as he does about women’s.

And children's...

StepAwayFromGoogling · 28/05/2025 15:20

orangegato · 28/05/2025 15:15

Can’t squeeze out a tear for this nasty little creature. I give as much of a fuck about his rights as he does about women’s.

Came on to say this.

JamieCannister · 28/05/2025 15:20

BelfastBard · 28/05/2025 14:59

I have no sympathy for him. They should have used his detention as an opportunity to examine his hard drive. He’s deeply deeply problematic and I have no doubt in the future he’ll be yet another to add to the list of “hidden in plain sight” celebrities who have become notorious

You can have no sympathy for him whilst still wishing - for the benefit of everyone - that the police uphold people's human rights and only arrest them if they suspect them of committing a crime (or rather "reasonably" suspect).

PhilippaGeorgiou · 28/05/2025 15:21

Everanewbie · 28/05/2025 14:29

No, they are protesting Israel's action in Gaza. PT was also doing that but also highlighted crimes committed by the other side. Evidently, the organisers didn't want to see any hint of a message that diverted from the binary Palestine good, Israel bad purity. I doubt very much that they would have objected to PT's presence had he omitted the bottom half of his placard.

I'll ignore your insult. It demeans you.

You seem extraordinarily set upon defending his idiotic actions. Why?

I do not agree with Israel's actions in Gaza. I do not agree with Hamas or anyone who supports them. But I am also unwilling to idiotically insist on standing in a place where I might just get my head kicked in, especially after being told to move by the police because I am potentially putting public order at risk, which is not just risking my own safety but the safety of lots of other people - including the police. He was deliberately going out of his way to be goady and to provoke an argument.

I am no fan of the police, but ffs I would not want to be in their shoes trying to stand in the middle between protesters/ counter-protesters when there are inflamed tempers and anger on both sides. It isn't their job to decide decide what is justifiable comment / anger and what isn't. It is to keep the peace in bloody difficult circumstances. And if somebody is deliberately refusing to obey a reasonable instruction - "go stand over there" - in order to inflame those tempers even more, then they should be arrested.

He was not arrested for his views. He was arrested because he, and others, were at risk because he refused to leave a group of protesters who did not agree with him. He was welcome to go and stand with his placard elsewhere. He was told that. And he refused.

Didntask · 28/05/2025 15:21

smallglassbottle · 28/05/2025 12:37

He's an utter reptile who deserves whatever punishment the universe is handing out 😂

(no offence to decent reptiles)

This. He's vile.

DazedAndConfused321 · 28/05/2025 15:22

Free Palestine, don't free PT! He's a freak and should be arrested for his other views, not for this incident

PencilsInSpace · 28/05/2025 15:22

Everanewbie · 28/05/2025 14:29

No, they are protesting Israel's action in Gaza. PT was also doing that but also highlighted crimes committed by the other side. Evidently, the organisers didn't want to see any hint of a message that diverted from the binary Palestine good, Israel bad purity. I doubt very much that they would have objected to PT's presence had he omitted the bottom half of his placard.

I'll ignore your insult. It demeans you.

I doubt very much that they would have objected to PT's presence had he omitted the bottom half of his placard.

I'm sure the bottom half of his placard didn't help but even without it I could easily imagine a general 'fuck off Peter' vibe. Loads of groups and causes he tries to latch himself onto are getting wise to him and want nothing to do with him.