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Peter Tatchell Arrested - Outrageous

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Everanewbie · 28/05/2025 11:54

AIBU to be outraged my Peter Tatchell's latest arrest?

For those who have not heard, the famous campaigner attended a recent Gaza protest. He held a placard that demanded Israel stop the genocide, and that Hamas are a shameful, and reiterated their official terrorist status for the torture an execution of a Palestinian man that attended an anti-Hamas demonstration in Gaza. He was arrested on the basis of inciting racial and religious hatred. The police have since apologised indicating that they believed him to be part of a counter-protest. He spent 5 hours in a cell.

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MarkingBad · 28/05/2025 12:49

That PT had a minor inconvenience that didn't last half a day, in light of his previous behaviour and support, nah!

Everanewbie · 28/05/2025 12:50

Umeshu · 28/05/2025 12:46

Absolutely right. A wicked person doing a good thing remains a wicked person.

But you arrest them for the wicked act, not make stuff up and punish them. In any case, the subtext here is that someone can just label someone wicked. Who gets to do that? Who gets to decide that the normal rule of law no longer applies to them? What if that person has different views to you? The arrest threshold is lowered? Is that not worrying?

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AnSolas · 28/05/2025 12:50

Everanewbie · 28/05/2025 12:32

Police overreach and apparent bias. Making arrests based on baseless accusations. The fact that he had to spend 5 hours or more in a cell for a placard that simply stated a fact; Hamas are a proscribed terrorist organisation here in the UK. Like him or loathe him, the implications of the police's behaviour are worrying.

I am not a particular fan of PT and I don't know enough about his views or previous words or actions to debate their merits. I just see a person arrested and denied liberty (albeit briefly) for something that most reasonable people wouldn't see as a crime.

If memory serves me he was a supporter of the ideology of women and men being recorded on the police system and subjected to harrassement and arrest for noncrimes hate crimes ( that is having and expressing an ¹lawful opinion that was different to his ideology )

So is it a shame if swings and roundabouts happen when you encourage the police to make up their own version of the law? 💅

If he wants proper law and order to be applied without bias he needs to recognise he and his "side" were happy for the police to over reach when it allied with his ideology.

And "baseless" he was arrested in public so I am guessing the arresting officer had a reason for the act (even if the seniors/ CPS did not agree).

nolongersurprised · 28/05/2025 12:52

JazzyJelly · 28/05/2025 12:48

Not what I assumed the arrest would be for when I read the title of the thread!

No - me neither. Tatchell is that man who reported that some children experienced “great joy” when having sex with adults - I.e. paedophilia is good, actually.

He has been hiding in plain sight for years

Hwi · 28/05/2025 12:54

Vile scum who says there are 'minor-attracted people'. Delighted he is inconvenienced for a short period of time.

Everanewbie · 28/05/2025 12:54

Well the police apologised

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Shedmistress · 28/05/2025 12:55

Have you got a photo of this placard OP?

MichaelaFrey · 28/05/2025 12:55

JazzyJelly · 28/05/2025 12:48

Not what I assumed the arrest would be for when I read the title of the thread!

snap

Motnight · 28/05/2025 12:56

The man's a prick, Op, most people therefore can't see past his problematic and widely reported views concerning the rape of children.

MarkingBad · 28/05/2025 12:56

A good act or attention seeking for personal gain. Some activists like PT know the value of an arrest wrongful or not

3peassuit · 28/05/2025 12:57

I’ve no sympathy whatsoever for that man.

Everanewbie · 28/05/2025 12:57

AnSolas · 28/05/2025 12:50

If memory serves me he was a supporter of the ideology of women and men being recorded on the police system and subjected to harrassement and arrest for noncrimes hate crimes ( that is having and expressing an ¹lawful opinion that was different to his ideology )

So is it a shame if swings and roundabouts happen when you encourage the police to make up their own version of the law? 💅

If he wants proper law and order to be applied without bias he needs to recognise he and his "side" were happy for the police to over reach when it allied with his ideology.

And "baseless" he was arrested in public so I am guessing the arresting officer had a reason for the act (even if the seniors/ CPS did not agree).

Thanks for your post. If he has promoted non-crime hate incidents then there is an element of poetic justice being a victim of police overreach/ineptitude/two tier policing. But it doesn't change the fact that in the instance, the conduct of his arrest has worrying implications.

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AzureShark · 28/05/2025 12:58

So conflicted.

Appalled that they arrest people for protesting the Gaza Genocide.

But on the other hand, behind bars is where PT should be...so on balance, I'm alright with it.

GreenSedan · 28/05/2025 12:58

I can't get upset about it. The man's an absolute prick.

ArabellaScott · 28/05/2025 12:59

Everanewbie · 28/05/2025 12:47

I don't like the idea that the Police can arrest someone based on a single, apparently baseless complaint, whilst espousing a reasonable views (I don't agree that Israel are committing genocide, but that's his view), and hold them for more than 5 hours. In isolation, I'd read, tut, and move on. But in the light of recent cases like the school governors that were held for 11 hours for privately calling a headteacher a control freak, and the girl violently arrested for saying an officer looked like her lesbian aunt, I am getting more and more worried about the police' threshold for arrest, even if no further action is brought.

I agree that recent arrests over what are arguably free speech issues are concerning. I'll always be concerned that our rights to freedom of expression are protected. And yes, that goes for the most odious people (and views I'd personally disagree very strongly with). Freedom of speech and expression has to count for everyone, not just those we agree with.

I'll be honest, though, I do find it hard to muster outrage over this. PT has been a professional protestor/activist for many, many years. He's been arrested many times. The police have been put in some very difficult situations where they are surrounded by people making inflammatory and possibly illegal remarks/threats/speeches.

Thegreyhound · 28/05/2025 12:59

The dislike of Peter Tatchell is so predictable.

I am old enough to remember the absolutely notorious Bermondsey election in 1983 where he was shamefully dragged day and night by the media and by his opponents on the basis of his sexuality (one of whom, Simon Hughes, was actually a closeted gay man himself) It was a dreadful chapter and the fact that Tatchell got through it at all is bloody impressive.

I also like that he sticks to his guns re human rights abuses and will call out both the genocidal Israeli government and the appalling Hamas.

Everanewbie · 28/05/2025 13:00

AzureShark · 28/05/2025 12:58

So conflicted.

Appalled that they arrest people for protesting the Gaza Genocide.

But on the other hand, behind bars is where PT should be...so on balance, I'm alright with it.

He was arrested based on the secondary message on his placard that proscribed terrorist organisation should stop executing political opponents.

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RampantIvy · 28/05/2025 13:00

Everanewbie · 28/05/2025 12:39

Does a placard stating "Stop Israel genocide! Stop Hamas execution!" warrant arrest? Take PT out of it.

Quite frankly I, and it seems none of the other posters, care what happens to him.

You are obviously very young to have never heard of him and his horrible opinions before.

PetaltotheMedal · 28/05/2025 13:00

nolongersurprised · 28/05/2025 12:52

No - me neither. Tatchell is that man who reported that some children experienced “great joy” when having sex with adults - I.e. paedophilia is good, actually.

He has been hiding in plain sight for years

This.

Agrumpyknitter · 28/05/2025 13:00

I initially voted YANBU but now reading other posters have changed my vote to YABU. In view of his past, in my opinion I think his protest was performative to gain him some attention so YABU.

ArabellaScott · 28/05/2025 13:01

Thegreyhound · 28/05/2025 12:59

The dislike of Peter Tatchell is so predictable.

I am old enough to remember the absolutely notorious Bermondsey election in 1983 where he was shamefully dragged day and night by the media and by his opponents on the basis of his sexuality (one of whom, Simon Hughes, was actually a closeted gay man himself) It was a dreadful chapter and the fact that Tatchell got through it at all is bloody impressive.

I also like that he sticks to his guns re human rights abuses and will call out both the genocidal Israeli government and the appalling Hamas.

Mumsnet, a website for mothers, is not keen on a paedophile sympathiser. Earth shattering.

tuvamoodyson · 28/05/2025 13:01

They should have forgotten where they’d put the key…he’s vile.

MrTiddlesTheCat · 28/05/2025 13:02

He was arrested for being an odious twat, so the mistake the police made was letting him go. His placard and the comments he's made make it clear his purpose at the protest was to goad other protesters into reacting. They reacted, he was arrested, he got what he wanted.

Shedmistress · 28/05/2025 13:03

Everanewbie · 28/05/2025 13:00

He was arrested based on the secondary message on his placard that proscribed terrorist organisation should stop executing political opponents.

What did the placard actually say OP?

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