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I’ve bailed on a friend in favour of my kids, but I didn’t realise how she was feeling 😔

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Niceiswear · 26/05/2025 09:38

Edited to point out typo in the title - should say “kid”, just one!

My son and I sometimes going and visit an old school friend of mine who lives in Australia. He alway has a nice enough time but it’s not his favourite holiday. She doesn’t have kids and although we do activities for him, there isn’t a lot happening where she lives.

I’d planned to go and see her this year and she said she was thrilled, but that work would be very busy during the week. We threw around some ideas for things to do at the weekends while we were there.

I then found out that a group of mums from we know are taking their kids away for 10 days at the same time, and we’ve been invited.

This is a dream for my son. This group has gone away before and the timing’s not worked out for us to go with, as he was with my ex those weeks, or I haven’t been able to take the time off work.

I’d made up my mind that we’d go on the group trip instead of visiting my friend. It’s really special for my son and he’ll have a much better time.

I won’t get another chance to get to my friend this year.

I don’t get to talk to her on the phone loads because of the time zones, so hadn’t told her, but I’ve finally reached her today.

Before I had the chance to tell her, she confided that she’s really struggling mental health wise, to the extent she’s considered taking her own life, and that she feels so isolated over there and is just relieved people from home come and visit occasionally.

I was not expecting this at all. She was happy as Larry when I spoke to her last. I didn’t think she’d bat at eyelid as she’d already said she’d be really busy with work.

Obviously I couldn’t bring myself to tell her that we weren’t going to visit.

I feel absolutely awful.

OP posts:
Communitywebbing · 26/05/2025 11:05

Is it fair to either of them, to take your son to stay with someone he doesn't know well and who has been feeling suicidal?
I'd take the bull by the horns and tell your friend that you can't come that week after all because there are things on that DS needs to be doing, but you are very concerned for her, and you'd like her to come and stay with you instead. So put a date in the diary asap and meanwhile talk about how she can access help where she is.

eldermillenialmum · 26/05/2025 11:07

I can see why you feel bad OP but you need to d what is best for you and your family. How far in advance of the trip are you that you're cancelling? You obviously haven't booked yet.

I think you should tell her asap and if you can go another time then do but otherwise invite her to stay with you and just explain it's difficult with children. It's a long trip! In terms of the distance.

eldermillenialmum · 26/05/2025 11:07

Can you send her regular voice notes? You could send one every day or thereabouts to talk about your life and even if it's nighttime there she'd have it when she wakes up and may make her feel less alon . My friends and I use them all the time as they're a bit more personal than a text but you don't have to wait until you're both free for a call, which can be difficult even in the same time zone, with work and young children.

AthWat · 26/05/2025 11:08

No, you don't need to spend potentially thousands of pounds taking your children to somewhere boring because your friend hasn't got the sense to come home.

justmeandmyselfandi · 26/05/2025 11:11

Wow cannot believe some of the responses here, people have obviously never lost someone to suicide. Really disgusting, some of you people ought to be ashamed of yourselves. Can you see if she can visit you instead OP?

Hwi · 26/05/2025 11:12

Own flesh and blood or a friend? Seriously?

Niceiswear · 26/05/2025 11:15

Hwi · 26/05/2025 11:12

Own flesh and blood or a friend? Seriously?

I haven’t asked which I should do. I’ve already booked the group trip with my son. I just feel bad for my friend.

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Niceiswear · 26/05/2025 11:16

Communitywebbing · 26/05/2025 11:05

Is it fair to either of them, to take your son to stay with someone he doesn't know well and who has been feeling suicidal?
I'd take the bull by the horns and tell your friend that you can't come that week after all because there are things on that DS needs to be doing, but you are very concerned for her, and you'd like her to come and stay with you instead. So put a date in the diary asap and meanwhile talk about how she can access help where she is.

it’s his godmother so he does know her well! But agree that it’s not an idea holiday for him in the circumstances.

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cestlavielife · 26/05/2025 11:17

She needs to take responsibility for her m h and reach out to support services in Australia.
She cannot rely on you or others visiting.
She needs to assess if she stays there or not.
But m h travels with you. If it is situational due to being in Australia she needs to figure that out. And take steps to change the situation.
Your responsibility is to your dc

NineteenSeventyNine · 26/05/2025 11:17

You haven't done anything wrong OP, and you made the right decision for your DS. Be honest with your friend that you’re not coming (or make up a plausible white lie around work commitments, finances etc if that feels like the kinder thing to do atm) but make a special effort to check in with her by phone regularly and maybe send her something nice in the post. Ultimately you can’t fix her problems with a single visit anyway, so you shouldn’t feel guilty, and it was presumably her decision to move away so she can’t (and I’m sure doesn’t) except her friends to keep jetting over to the other side of the world. Suggest that she comes home - or at least comes to stay for a bit. You sound like a good friend and mum.

TheaBrandt1 · 26/05/2025 11:18

Also there are finite childhood holidays they are quite precious. You don’t really appreciate this until you are out the other side. Our late teens talk fondly and often of our many holidays when they were primary age particularly the rough and ready large group ones.

Communitywebbing · 26/05/2025 11:18

Niceiswear · 26/05/2025 11:16

it’s his godmother so he does know her well! But agree that it’s not an idea holiday for him in the circumstances.

Ah, I thought he only knew her from the Australia visits.
It could be really hard for DS if she's in a bad way when you are there.

LameBorzoi · 26/05/2025 11:18

justmeandmyselfandi · 26/05/2025 11:11

Wow cannot believe some of the responses here, people have obviously never lost someone to suicide. Really disgusting, some of you people ought to be ashamed of yourselves. Can you see if she can visit you instead OP?

They all seem pretty reasonable to me? Suicidality should be taken seriously, but OP hauling her son to Australia isn't the answer.

ThatNimblePeer · 26/05/2025 11:20

Pastyfaced · 26/05/2025 09:46

Difficult one - but this

you must prioritise your child

Definitely prioritise your child, who will be fine whether he gets to go on this holiday or not, over a friend considering actual suicide 🙄

nomas · 26/05/2025 11:21

Your friend needs to learn her own resilience, it can’t be tied to you.

Why can’t she come and visit you? Who visited who last year?

And where do you like? A visit to Australia would be a huge deal for me.

Merrymouse · 26/05/2025 11:22

justmeandmyselfandi · 26/05/2025 11:11

Wow cannot believe some of the responses here, people have obviously never lost someone to suicide. Really disgusting, some of you people ought to be ashamed of yourselves. Can you see if she can visit you instead OP?

People don't commit suicide because their friend cancels a trip to see them. It's not fair or right to suggest that the OP could be responsible for this.

I agree with your suggestion that the OP could ask the friend to stay (if it's practical in the circumstances), but the friend needs to seek mental health support locally. The OP can certainly be supportive from a distance, but as communitywebbing says, if the purpose of the trip is to help the friend through a mental health crisis, that is not a trip that she should make with her son.

Niceiswear · 26/05/2025 11:22

Her family are in the UK so she does visit a couple of times a year anyway and has plans to come later in the year.

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businessflop25 · 26/05/2025 11:23

justmeandmyselfandi · 26/05/2025 11:11

Wow cannot believe some of the responses here, people have obviously never lost someone to suicide. Really disgusting, some of you people ought to be ashamed of yourselves. Can you see if she can visit you instead OP?

I agree!
im not sure I would enjoy a frivolous holiday with my child knowing I’d bailed on a friend who may take her life as a result of how she’s feeling.
I would be doing all I could to make both work. Could you not go out to Australia at another time. Or meet her for a holiday somewhere? Some family friends who have relatives in Australia regularly meet up in Asia or the Middle East for holidays rather than either part fly the whole way.
Or could your son not go with friends on the holiday whilst you go to Australia? Maybe you go with the group for a few days then leave your son with them and then go on to Australia for a shorter time?

I would do all I could to make both work.

nomas · 26/05/2025 11:24

Niceiswear · 26/05/2025 11:22

Her family are in the UK so she does visit a couple of times a year anyway and has plans to come later in the year.

Are you in the UK?

I think your friend expects a lot from you. Sounds like she guilt tripped you.

Do you love these visits or do you go for her sake?

Isn’t that a huge amount of money on tickets for you and DS?

businessflop25 · 26/05/2025 11:25

Niceiswear · 26/05/2025 11:22

Her family are in the UK so she does visit a couple of times a year anyway and has plans to come later in the year.

In which case could you take her for a weekend away whilst she is here? Just the two of you? Maybe a so weekend or a trip to somewhere in Europe?

MoreChocPls · 26/05/2025 11:25

The time difference doesn’t prevent phone calls!

glad you chose your son.

sorry but if she is that bad she needs to get help and/or come home

nomas · 26/05/2025 11:26

businessflop25 · 26/05/2025 11:23

I agree!
im not sure I would enjoy a frivolous holiday with my child knowing I’d bailed on a friend who may take her life as a result of how she’s feeling.
I would be doing all I could to make both work. Could you not go out to Australia at another time. Or meet her for a holiday somewhere? Some family friends who have relatives in Australia regularly meet up in Asia or the Middle East for holidays rather than either part fly the whole way.
Or could your son not go with friends on the holiday whilst you go to Australia? Maybe you go with the group for a few days then leave your son with them and then go on to Australia for a shorter time?

I would do all I could to make both work.

The friend made the decision to move to Australia, she needs to understand that even with the best will in the world, visits sometimes have to postponed and kids must always be the priority.

When’s the last time you flew to the other side of the world just to see a friend?

NineteenSeventyNine · 26/05/2025 11:28

ThatNimblePeer · 26/05/2025 11:20

Definitely prioritise your child, who will be fine whether he gets to go on this holiday or not, over a friend considering actual suicide 🙄

OP cannot single-handedly make a difference to her friend’s suicide ideation with one trip. That is not how it works. She is far better off supporting her regularly by phone, contacting any mutual friends to help, and encouraging her to come home if her current situation in Australia is contributing to this.

Merrymouse · 26/05/2025 11:28

businessflop25 · 26/05/2025 11:23

I agree!
im not sure I would enjoy a frivolous holiday with my child knowing I’d bailed on a friend who may take her life as a result of how she’s feeling.
I would be doing all I could to make both work. Could you not go out to Australia at another time. Or meet her for a holiday somewhere? Some family friends who have relatives in Australia regularly meet up in Asia or the Middle East for holidays rather than either part fly the whole way.
Or could your son not go with friends on the holiday whilst you go to Australia? Maybe you go with the group for a few days then leave your son with them and then go on to Australia for a shorter time?

I would do all I could to make both work.

What?

I'm assuming the trip is not next week. If the friend is genuinely suicidal, the OP should definitely do want she can to help, but a mental health crisis that is that severe won't be solved by a holiday where the OP's priority will be caring for her son.

Niceiswear · 26/05/2025 11:29

nomas · 26/05/2025 11:24

Are you in the UK?

I think your friend expects a lot from you. Sounds like she guilt tripped you.

Do you love these visits or do you go for her sake?

Isn’t that a huge amount of money on tickets for you and DS?

yes I’m in the UK.

I love visiting her when DS is with his dad but it’s harder when I take him with me.

We were flying on airmiles as I do a lot of business travel although the overall cost isn’t super expensive when you take into account we don’t need to pay for accommodation when we visit her.

Money isn’t really an issue, which is great. Time is much more limited.

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