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To think it’s actually really unfair to be charged for bank holidays at nursery?

282 replies

bouncinround · 20/05/2025 18:08

And no, I’m not going to complain about it because I don’t want anyone to think I begrudge the staff a day off. I don’t. But I do resent paying for a service I’m not receiving.

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jannier · 22/05/2025 18:13

bouncinround · 22/05/2025 18:12

Well, for Good Friday and Easter Monday there’s a big clue in the name.

It is true that Christmas and Boxing Day fall on different days, but most nurseries (ime) close for a full week at Christmas. It’s true that depending on when the days fall there may be a small number of children who are off for longer than a week, but that doesn’t change the fact that irrespective of Christmas, there is Easter Monday, early spring bank holiday, late spring bank holiday and the one in August. So four full days. At £80 a pop; £160 for two children.

I have just depressed myself!

Don't you get funding

bouncinround · 22/05/2025 18:14

You’re telling me!

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bouncinround · 22/05/2025 18:15

jannier · 22/05/2025 18:13

Don't you get funding

I’m trying not to be rude here but I’ve answered that in quite intricate detail above.

With funding I pay £400 a month for one and £700 for the other, for three days a week.

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jannier · 22/05/2025 18:17

SpicyWater · 22/05/2025 15:53

That's just utter nonsense and you know it.

You're trying anything you possibly can to try and prove people wrong here and it's all just dribble. You completely made those figures up there and you know it. I'm also a Monday parent and I know for a FACT that your numbers are not true. As does every other Monday parent that's commenting here.

You're just here for a fight and no amount of carefully explaining the (correct) details to you will make you see otherwise.

What figures have I made up? The number of bank holidays this year? That you get funded hours?

Mountainfrog · 22/05/2025 18:18

LegoLandslide · 20/05/2025 18:12

Yes, for everything else you pay a little extra every other working day and it works itself out. Nursery is the only example I've come across where you literally pay extra for a service you don't receive, if you only access it part time.

I agree it's annoying but I also accept that being annoyed is pointless as its now an industry standard.

This. Particularly annoying when you work in a job which requires you in on BHs so then you kind of have to pay twice (for the day of childcare you didn’t get, and the replacement childcare so you can go to work). This is part of the reason we moved to a nursery who opened every day except Christmas week. They were so much better than the old one.

Fruitbat99 · 22/05/2025 18:19

Its totally unfair. I'm adopting at the moment at this has reminded me to never book them in for nursery on Mondays 👍

bouncinround · 22/05/2025 18:19

The thing is jannier, you’re here with your own particular gripe which is related to the government and the funded hours. It’s nothing to do with this issue! Thats why the discussion has been going around in circles; we’re talking about X and you’re complaining about Y. Start your own bloody thread!

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SpicyWater · 22/05/2025 18:53

jannier · 22/05/2025 18:07

Your assuming Good Friday Christmas day, boxing day and new years day are Mondays.
Assuming stretched funding is 4.5 hours a day and you pay 4.5 hours that's about 18 hours of fees a year others are not paying. So not much more than an hour a month. Yet paying it helps keep your nursery open.

No I'm not 😂

You're assuming the op is in England. England get 8 days BH, Scotland get 9 BH and Wales get 10.

You are spouting 'facts' without doing any research.

SpicyWater · 22/05/2025 19:03

jannier · 22/05/2025 18:13

Don't you get funding

She likely will get funding however, that's supposed to cover her child on days that they are IN nursery. Not days that the nursery is closed to pay the staff.

Why are you finding this so hard to comprehend? It's been explained in great detail multiple times here.

You claim it's only a small amount that's being lost compared to others however, there should ne absolutely NO loss compared to others. Every child should be receiving the same amount of days that are paid for, regardless is its funding or privately funded.

It should be equal between all children and everyone should get the number of days that they pay for. Not less because they chose to attend a different day to others. Those that attend on days that the nursery are closed shouldn't be disproportionately footing the bill.

It's the nursery's job, like any other business to do this fairly between all the service users. Most are very obviously doing some lazy accounting and cba to work this out, so they disproportionately charge those that attend BH, compared to those that don't.

jannier · 22/05/2025 19:11

bouncinround · 22/05/2025 18:15

I’m trying not to be rude here but I’ve answered that in quite intricate detail above.

With funding I pay £400 a month for one and £700 for the other, for three days a week.

So you do additional hours have the benefit of funding soon to be 30 hours and still think £100 a month is a lot I was paying more than twice that 30 years ago from 12 weeks to the term after he was 5 as school was later then and you paid childcare if you used school nursery . My income was £1000 a month after tax.

bouncinround · 22/05/2025 19:14

I think it is unfair @jannier , is what I think it is. As the thread title says.

I do think you’re being deliberately obtuse now, sorry.

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jannier · 22/05/2025 19:15

SpicyWater · 22/05/2025 19:03

She likely will get funding however, that's supposed to cover her child on days that they are IN nursery. Not days that the nursery is closed to pay the staff.

Why are you finding this so hard to comprehend? It's been explained in great detail multiple times here.

You claim it's only a small amount that's being lost compared to others however, there should ne absolutely NO loss compared to others. Every child should be receiving the same amount of days that are paid for, regardless is its funding or privately funded.

It should be equal between all children and everyone should get the number of days that they pay for. Not less because they chose to attend a different day to others. Those that attend on days that the nursery are closed shouldn't be disproportionately footing the bill.

It's the nursery's job, like any other business to do this fairly between all the service users. Most are very obviously doing some lazy accounting and cba to work this out, so they disproportionately charge those that attend BH, compared to those that don't.

Nurserys are subsidising your free hours and parents are still name calling and moaning instead do research and join the campaign to get the government to pay fair funding rates or there will not be any nurseries left....or the fees will be so high for the few hours used unfunded defeating the object.

To think it’s actually really unfair to be charged for bank holidays at nursery?
LlynTegid · 22/05/2025 19:15

There has been a bank holiday at the end of May (or nearby) since 1868. The possibility of having to pay for a bank holiday is not exactly a surprise.

jannier · 22/05/2025 19:21

bouncinround · 22/05/2025 18:19

The thing is jannier, you’re here with your own particular gripe which is related to the government and the funded hours. It’s nothing to do with this issue! Thats why the discussion has been going around in circles; we’re talking about X and you’re complaining about Y. Start your own bloody thread!

They are linked you don't pay bank holidays more staff have to go nurseries close. It's not isolated. And the new rules for september on funding make it impossible to charge extra every itemust be itemised and not part of what is required to provide the eyfs....paper etc....and voluntary. You can't be forced to do extra hours. Sessions can not be split IE for lunch times. Yet people think you can just increase your hourly rate it's not that easy.

jannier · 22/05/2025 19:25

bouncinround · 22/05/2025 16:07

Summarising Jannier’s argument.

Nurseries have been treated badly by the government, so accept whatever relating to fees. This is your responsibility as a parent.

No....get clued up on the real issues and the plan to have children in school with higher staff to children ratios to save money and sign the petitions then nursery wouldn't have to get creative to survive.

StripyHorse · 22/05/2025 19:27

What I found frustrating....

DCs were in nursery Mon and Wed.
I paid disporportionately. Someone who had Tuesday to Thursday would only pay for Christmas / New Year (potentially).

It should have been factored in and added to the daily charge so that it is shared between all parents & is proportionate to the number of days in nursery.

jannier · 22/05/2025 19:28

SpicyWater · 22/05/2025 18:53

No I'm not 😂

You're assuming the op is in England. England get 8 days BH, Scotland get 9 BH and Wales get 10.

You are spouting 'facts' without doing any research.

So that's unfair on English workers let's start a thread why should others get more time off.

StripyHorse · 22/05/2025 19:29

StripyHorse · 22/05/2025 19:27

What I found frustrating....

DCs were in nursery Mon and Wed.
I paid disporportionately. Someone who had Tuesday to Thursday would only pay for Christmas / New Year (potentially).

It should have been factored in and added to the daily charge so that it is shared between all parents & is proportionate to the number of days in nursery.

Just to add....
Free hours didn't apply to me (it was some time ago!)

jannier · 22/05/2025 19:29

StripyHorse · 22/05/2025 19:27

What I found frustrating....

DCs were in nursery Mon and Wed.
I paid disporportionately. Someone who had Tuesday to Thursday would only pay for Christmas / New Year (potentially).

It should have been factored in and added to the daily charge so that it is shared between all parents & is proportionate to the number of days in nursery.

Could you choose to use your funding on Mondays and Fridays....then you don't pay anything

bouncinround · 22/05/2025 19:41

She literally said it was some time ago. You aren’t even reading anyone’s responses.

Basically it’s ’the Government fund your hours, how dare you be anything other than slavishly grateful.’

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SpicyWater · 22/05/2025 21:34

LlynTegid · 22/05/2025 19:15

There has been a bank holiday at the end of May (or nearby) since 1868. The possibility of having to pay for a bank holiday is not exactly a surprise.

Who said it was a surprise? Probably best to read the full post before jumping in at the end with unrelated answers.

SpicyWater · 22/05/2025 21:35

jannier · 22/05/2025 19:25

No....get clued up on the real issues and the plan to have children in school with higher staff to children ratios to save money and sign the petitions then nursery wouldn't have to get creative to survive.

You should make your own post about that then. This post is completely irrelevant to the points you are making.

SpicyWater · 22/05/2025 21:37

jannier · 22/05/2025 19:15

Nurserys are subsidising your free hours and parents are still name calling and moaning instead do research and join the campaign to get the government to pay fair funding rates or there will not be any nurseries left....or the fees will be so high for the few hours used unfunded defeating the object.

How do you know I'm not involved?

SpicyWater · 22/05/2025 21:42

jannier · 22/05/2025 19:28

So that's unfair on English workers let's start a thread why should others get more time off.

Did you know that Scotland also have the highest childcare fees in the whole of Europe?

So add that to the 9 missing (paid for) bank holidays that their children can't attend, the parents are being robbed, not the nurseries.

Not to mention all those parents that also work a bank Holiday so need to pay a double fee as the nurseries are closed and they still need childcare. See where I'm going with this?

brunettemic · 23/05/2025 11:00

RawBloomers · 22/05/2025 12:59

So you see it as them being crap at maths and planning their reserves, and that being okay. I guess it’s a position, just not one that in anyway considers the question in the OP.

Not really but if that’s how you want to interpret it then there’s not a lot I can do about it.

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