Parents hate the Childfree

[Youstolemygoddamnhouse]

Over the past few days there have been several post regarding children for example Our new Neighbours and my loud children and To think it's unacceptable to say you don't like children. in both posts there are hateful comments about Childfree people. The second post in particular never mentioned anything about childfree people but then people started making comments about them. Plenty of parents hate other children despite having them. Why do parents care so much about Childfree people and their choices? Are you jealous? Need validation? Why all the hate? Most importantly will you own up to it?

YABU - I don’t hate the childfree
YANBU - yes I hate the childfree

Who is stabbing footballs? Yelling at gardens? Banning them from restaurants and planes?

If I'm honest, I don't ever think about childfree people - I love having kids and have always wanted them. But if I didn't I'd have no qualms in not having them.

I don't like it when childfree people make disparaging comments about kids in general, but tbh parents do that too - so I dislike that. Don't care if someone is childfree or not

I’m really glad to see the posts on this thread counteract the reality of perceived social division.
Just like every other divisive nonsense on social media.
Thank goodness most people are normal and just get on with life with all members of their communities and society.

Presumably you are a professional? I have a childfree close friend whose advice has been absolutely invaluable about educational matters because she is a professional. We are incredibly lucky to have her in our lives for many reasons in addition to the advice.

Is this actually hateful? I think it's just someone's opinion that I happen to disagree with 🤷‍♀️ the poster doesn't say she hates child free women.

This post summarises the situation quite well l think. A friend of mine had children and l didn't (at the time). Minor things would visibly enrage her e.g. if l had booked a holiday, was looking to buy a house that l mentioned had good storage for our vinyl collection etc. She would openly make clear it was oh, so indulgent 🙄 and "a sign we didn't have children as that was too much of a luxury for them". Even after our first round of IVF failed she had to get digs in as we had the cheek to book a weekend way: "we would love to go away for the weekend but we spend too much money on childcare). She was a mummy martyr e.g. she did all the night wakings, wouldn't use babysitters, had a rule where she wouldn't go out for the evening more than 1.5 miles from the house It was a bit of a juxtaposition as she insisted on having 2 children very close together. But then went on and on and on about the cost of childcare for 2 under 2. Also she was quite controlling (or rather tried to be!) e.g. me arriving at her house during nap time was the only way apparently, even if that meant me getting up at 5am to make this happen (we didn't live close to each other). Then l got told she was a lot busier than me and l was selfish (l was regularly working 55-60 hours a week and getting divorced so not really!).

She was a hard person to be friends with as she was so wrapped up in herself / her children. I felt sorry for her husband

Needless to say we aren't friends now. I have friends now who don't have children and l don't do any of these things. I get the odd pang of envy especially when l very tired (the pregnancy appears have triggered a physical health issue that's quite draining) or if the children or l am ill. But have the emotional maturity to know this is a phase of my life and not forever

Which places are these? The childfree on mumsnet seem far too obsessed with not having children around compared to normal childfree people I know in real life.

HATE is a very strong word. However envy at times of the freedom the childfree have to do anything at any time (outside school hols esp.) is a big maybe.

In my experience the child free actually like children - in small doses, that's because they can be around them if they feel like it, then enjoy their company but can take it or leave it. Parenting is full on 24/7 really. I don't blame parents for being envious sometimes, but hate? I don't think so, unless the childfree person provokes them with unsavoury comments about their kids etc.

Live and let live.

Are people still coming to Mumsnet, who aren't Mums to bitch and moan about Mums.

JFC makes the men look saintly..

I truly support a woman's choice to live how she wants

But childfree people don't half bang on about being child free 🙄

They're worse than vegans, just inserting it into random conversations, telling everyone how much sleep they get, unprovoked 🙄🙄

Did somebody really come out with that patronising garbage?

Some parents do not like kids.
Some parents love kids.
Some childfree do not like kids.
Some childfree love kids.

TBH, thinking about it, I see more visceral disgust from some child-free people towards children than I've ever seen from parents towards the child-free.

I have seen more hatred of kids from parents than from childfree. I work in safeguarding and I can tell you that those exhibiting their dislike of children is mainly parents. Abuse mainly comes from those with kids than those without.

Yeah I’d say some sort of insecurity on OPs part makes them fixate on and give too much weight to these very unusual and extreme opinions.

i was happily child free until surprise pregnancy at 38. Now also happy. Don’t hate parents or non parents. Have never heard a friend or acquaintance who is a parent say anything along the lines of hating child free people. Once a very elderly woman said to me “now you’re a parent your life has meaning at last’” and me and my friends all laughed at this silly antiquated opinion.

I personally just hate twats, regardless of their parental status.

I have skim read and I gather OP hates children and is twisting that into parents hating child-free people, specifically her. Have I got that right?

As a PP says Mumsnet seems a strange forum for this person to choose. Is there nowhere we parents can go to get away from pesky child free people?

Its as stupid as saying girls like pink and hate blue.

What places? Children are humans too, unless it’s something not appropriate for children like a bar in the evening then why shouldn’t children be there?

No hate but I am often bemused by those childfree posters who have these lives we should be jealous of, who spend a large amount of their time posting on "mumsnet, the UK's most popular website for parents."

All 2 of them?

Why would I hate someone for not having children? How would I even know if they have children or not? Or do you think that I go around withholding my opinion on someone until I find out what their reproductive choices were? Where does it stop - do I just mildly dislike the people who couldn't have children but really really despise the people who actively chose not to have them?

This!!!! Go snd enjoy your lovely life!

This made me laugh 🤣… but for all the right reasons. It sums up the absurdity of this thread.

Im childfree and ive never gotten hate.

Ive gotten hate for writing gotten on here though

Exactly.

It’s the lumping all in one group which those who choose to do that wouldn’t like the same thing done to them.

My well-behaved children shouldn’t be penalised due to other people’s parenting. Plus, how are they supposed to learn how to behave in public places if they’re excluded from them. No one would think someone learning to drive should only learn by simulation and practicing only in their home and then be sent out on the road.

If you were my friend I'd be asking advice! I have 2 friends who are respectively a teacher and child psychologist. They'd probably say I ask too much advice. Same as I annoy my pal who is a podiatrist about my feet and dental friends about my teeth. Expert advice from someone you know well is gold dust

Oh the irony!

So, just to be clear….

If parents say anything about childfree people, they’re haters and it warrants a post to discuss how terrible parents en masse are (even though most of us give no shits whether people choose to have kids or not).

If childfree people say nasty things about children, it’s perfectly fine because other people saying things on the internet doesn’t matter.

Alright then 😂😂😂😂