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Parents hate the Childfree

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Youstolemygoddamnhouse · 18/05/2025 08:18

Over the past few days there have been several post regarding children for example Our new Neighbours and my loud children and To think it's unacceptable to say you don't like children. in both posts there are hateful comments about Childfree people. The second post in particular never mentioned anything about childfree people but then people started making comments about them. Plenty of parents hate other children despite having them. Why do parents care so much about Childfree people and their choices? Are you jealous? Need validation? Why all the hate? Most importantly will you own up to it?

YABU - I don’t hate the childfree
YANBU - yes I hate the childfree

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Spiderwomann · 18/05/2025 09:26

Youstolemygoddamnhouse · 18/05/2025 09:18

Look at the countless comments of hate on the threads I highlighted. Or on Instagram account - childfreemillenial just to name one

She does what you do though, mention the few negative comments on reposts when the actual comment sections are 99% supportive.

SwanOfThoseThings · 18/05/2025 09:26

squashyhat · 18/05/2025 08:24

Sweeping generalisations apart, what does it matter to a child free person if parents do hate them? Presumably apart from relatives their lives will barely cross.

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What? Do you think we all live on Childfree Island or something?😄

Coconutter24 · 18/05/2025 09:27

Youstolemygoddamnhouse · 18/05/2025 08:25

Personally, I think it comes from a place of older women pretending they never wanted children but deep down they would have liked it, it just never happened for them for one reason or another and they become inbittered.

comment made on the second post. So yes the hate is real 😆

But that comment reads as a childfree person hating the parents which doesn’t prove your point people hate the childfree if anything that comment says the opposite.

Youstolemygoddamnhouse · 18/05/2025 09:28

373849595d · 18/05/2025 08:40

I don't hate people who don't want to have children. I literally don't care what other people choose to do, beyond wanting everyone to feel empowered to make the choices that are right for them.

I do have a problem with people who talk or post online about how they hate children / children are annoying / children shouldn't be allowed in certain spaces etc., because it's discriminatory, disrespectful and exclusionary. Most child free people don't do this. The ones who do are arseholes and I think it's ok to tell them that.

Some child free people think that having others be respectful of their choice not to have kids means that people also have to be respectful of their discriminatory rhetoric about kids. That is not the case; I can respect someone's choice not to have children and still be critical of the way they talk about them.

But why do you care if they think or say that? I mean it’s not going to impact your life one bit what a stranger on the internet says?

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HopscotchBanana · 18/05/2025 09:28

Youstolemygoddamnhouse · 18/05/2025 09:22

Exactly. Which is why some parents hate the Childfree

You mean:

Which is why some parents hate the child free and why some child free hate the parents.

Don't forget you have to apply your "logic" to yourself...

SudsySaturday · 18/05/2025 09:29

Youstolemygoddamnhouse · 18/05/2025 09:22

Exactly. Which is why some parents hate the Childfree

I'd imagine some parents do hate the childfree. I'd imagine some childfree people hate parents.

I suspect there are plenty of parents who wish they'd never had children but just wouldn't admit to it, so instead bang on about how happy they are with their dc.

I suspect there are plenty of childfree people who wish they had children but wouldn't admit to it so bang on about how happy they are being childfree.

🤷‍♀️

Tupelobound · 18/05/2025 09:30

Youstolemygoddamnhouse · 18/05/2025 09:13

I don’t care if you think it’s not a good look. The hate towards Childfree people is real. Look at the Instagram posts of childfree people and you’ll see the endless hate they get.

Instagram isn't real life. What is it with people basing their entire view point from what people post on social media? Just now there's a thread on someone basing what children is like based on social media posts.

Meanwhile in real life, I have close friends who don't have kids, colleagues and other friends who don't have kids, my parents have friends who don't have kids as do my in-laws. No one hates others. I show interest in their lives and they show interest in mine. Believe it or not, we also socialise together!

Social media and Instagram is based on algorithms and becomes an echo chamber based on what your own views are. Whereas in the real world, people just don't care about this sort of stuff.

brassbedknobs · 18/05/2025 09:30

I don’t hate childfree/childless people at all.

It took many painful years for me to become a Mum so I do sometimes wonder if someone is “childfree” if they had experienced similar difficulties and were unable to conceive, or perhaps there was just never the right time. So I quietly empathise but I would never ask outright.

I do think that unless you’ve been a parent it’s difficult to comprehend the emotions involved with being a parent, but that’s fine- because I save my parent chats for my friends who have children. My best friend is childfree and I have no negative feelings towards her in the slightest (apart from slight envy that she gets a lot more sleep than I do 😉)

Youstolemygoddamnhouse · 18/05/2025 09:31

HopscotchBanana · 18/05/2025 08:40

Exactly. OP has very selective hearing to things that only suit her narrative.

No I also posted a pro childfree comment,

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Vplop · 18/05/2025 09:32

I think that a lot of younger people say that they don’t want children, but then later in life change their minds.

I am trying to conceive my first at 40. I hadn’t met the right man yet. Now I have and I want to have children with him.

women in their forties are having the most children these days compared to other age groups.

OutsideLookingOut · 18/05/2025 09:32

Tupelobound · 18/05/2025 09:30

Instagram isn't real life. What is it with people basing their entire view point from what people post on social media? Just now there's a thread on someone basing what children is like based on social media posts.

Meanwhile in real life, I have close friends who don't have kids, colleagues and other friends who don't have kids, my parents have friends who don't have kids as do my in-laws. No one hates others. I show interest in their lives and they show interest in mine. Believe it or not, we also socialise together!

Social media and Instagram is based on algorithms and becomes an echo chamber based on what your own views are. Whereas in the real world, people just don't care about this sort of stuff.

I'm not sure about this. There are many things people will not say in real life that they will say online. They are still the same people. Real life holds more consequences so I feel it is hard to know who people really are.

I remember the video of the woman just posting about her day and mentioning they had no children yet. She wasn't even childfree and she got so much hate. It was disgusting.

2ndbestslayer · 18/05/2025 09:32

Youstolemygoddamnhouse · 18/05/2025 09:28

But why do you care if they think or say that? I mean it’s not going to impact your life one bit what a stranger on the internet says?

Oh man. You MUST see the irony in this??

HopscotchBanana · 18/05/2025 09:33

Youstolemygoddamnhouse · 18/05/2025 09:28

But why do you care if they think or say that? I mean it’s not going to impact your life one bit what a stranger on the internet says?

because it's discriminatory, disrespectful and exclusionary

She's literally spelled it out for you.

Doesn't impact my life one bit if someone posts something discriminatory, disrespectful and exclusionary about elderly people. But I can still find it not ok and say so. That's what stops society going to shit.

Sofiewoo · 18/05/2025 09:34

Two threads on a forum with hundreds of threads daily hardly equates to parents hating “the child free”.
Maybe focus on your own life.

JLou08 · 18/05/2025 09:34

I've never heard or seen anyone hating childfree people. Plenty of hate for children and parents though.

VickyEadieofThigh · 18/05/2025 09:35

I'm childfree and have never got the sense from any parents that they "hate" me.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 18/05/2025 09:35

Yabu

Youstolemygoddamnhouse · 18/05/2025 09:35

Enthusiasticcarrotgrower · 18/05/2025 08:45

As long as they have some empathy and accept that children exist in the world and can be out and about in public then there’s no problem.

works both ways. Do you have empathy for the Childfree, that they might not want them in certain places.

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WavyRavey · 18/05/2025 09:36

I don't hate the child free I just find it a bit weird when they say they hate children, like if they were out and about and saw a lost or injured child would they not help? Some of the comments get a bit militant and odd

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 18/05/2025 09:39

PawsAndTails · 18/05/2025 08:38

To add - now that my children are pretty much grown, I'd rather be friends with someone childfree than someone with younger children. I want someone with the same freedom and not to have to deal with someone else's kids. However, I do sometimes find that childfree people still have a lot more freedom than I do even now, and they don't always seems to understand that I'm not quite that free (actually, that applies to the single ones, not the partnered ones).

This is interesting as when people don't have dependents we can often assume they are 'free' but they are often busy with lots of commitments whether that is community helping or volunteering or just appointments and activities they enjoy.
I remember being child free and being. Expected to do all the travel or arrange plans around kids and I usually did, but didn't always like the assumption that I had nothing on just because I had no dependents

Echobelly · 18/05/2025 09:39

People dislike certain behaviours but most are reasonable enough not to ascribe them to every parent or non parent. Eg, no one likes parents who refuse to manage kids who are creating disruption to others, but also parents don't like non-parents who see ordinary child behaviour (talking a lot, crying sometimes) as being disruptive and needing to be stopped immediately. But most people don't behave like that.

Barnbrack · 18/05/2025 09:41

Youstolemygoddamnhouse · 18/05/2025 09:05

I get what you’re saying but plenty of Childfree people have jobs that involve children etc teacher, nurse, social worker. Gp, midwife, nursery nurse. They have plenty of knowledge.

With respect k work in a paediatric medical setting, I didn't have kids u til I was 35. I've been child free for a significant portion of my working life.

Working with children is not remotely a window into the world of parenting. Not remotely. I've also been a big sister, I volved aunt, babysat since I was 12, nannied in summer holidays and I can definitely say that having experienced both child free and parenting there is no comparing working with children in these settings or being an involved family member to parenting. So much I didn't understand until I was a parent both in terms of the emotions involved in being a parent and the practicalities that arise that never crossed my mind previously.

I wouldn't claim to understand the experience of being elderly because I also work with elderly people, or the experience of a cancer sufferer because I see them regularly in clinic.

PawsAndTails · 18/05/2025 09:41

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 18/05/2025 09:39

This is interesting as when people don't have dependents we can often assume they are 'free' but they are often busy with lots of commitments whether that is community helping or volunteering or just appointments and activities they enjoy.
I remember being child free and being. Expected to do all the travel or arrange plans around kids and I usually did, but didn't always like the assumption that I had nothing on just because I had no dependents

It's not that you don't have nothing on, but it's a different kind of busy. You will have more windows of free time than someone who is nursing around the clock 24/7, for example. I've lived both, it's different.

Youstolemygoddamnhouse · 18/05/2025 09:41

Cynicalaboutall · 18/05/2025 08:47

Sorry, having lived through the past 22 years of being a Mother, still think the correct term is “childless”!!

so because you’re a mother you have a monopoly on what people what to call themselves?

childfree - choice
Childless - is not a choice

Have some class for those who can’t have children.

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Rumbley · 18/05/2025 09:42

It’s all a bit… fierce 14 year old arguing in dramatic, hyperbolic and complete black and white terms about an issue OP 😂

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